Labour planning to utilize scab labour to break strikes. Fucking hell you dirty bastards.
Dickheads, definitely the last straw for me in refusing to vote for these grifting fucking sack of shit frauds
You can’t force people to work for you, even if you break the strikes. Maybe the army will jump in and realise just how shit the job actually is.
If it talks like a tory and acts like a tory
This is the controlled, measured opposition this country desperately needs. They’ll be offering to help chuck migrants into the sea at this rate.
Labour doesn’t support labour
Keith just can’t stop losing
>One senior defence source told the Telegraph: “**You’ve only got to look at a private soldier on £22,000 a year and whose pay scales have not kept up with inflation for the last decade** having to give up Christmas, or come straight off operations, t**o cover for people** who want 19 per cent and are **already paid in excess of what he or she would be**, and it’s just not right.”
And whose fault is that? The Tories.
Why is that private potentially having to give up Christmas? The Tories. This nursing strike is, as Starmer is quoted in the article, a badge of shame for the Tory party. It should never have come to this, but they’ve wanked themselves into a fever dream over the idea of selling off our healthcare to the private sector and so are doing their utmost to facilitate the failure of the NHS.
Doesn’t matter, not every soldier is a medic/medically trained, whereas every member of the NHS has a trained/qualified/certified role.
Also who says any patients will allow the army to even treat them.
It’s times like these I’m thankful that on the rare occasions when my constituency doesn’t go Tory, it goes Lib Dem.
If I actually had to vote for a Labour party that does this in the next election I’d be holding my nose so hard it would come off.
Novaramedia – sounds really reputable…
Is this the Corbyn lot again
What they going to do? Have the gurkahs storm nurses picketing? Paras on patrols round hospitals?
Fuck me, this is dire. They don’t realise this is a historic opportunity to make proper arguments for change, not the time to slink to the right. Twats
The headline and tone of this article are bollocks.
The army are not being used to break any strike. He was asked whether they should be used to help provide essential care and answered yes.
That’s not crossing a picket line, it’s helping ensure that people don’t actually die.
The Tories are awful and we need a general election immediately, but crap like this is 100% supporting the conservative party because Novara Media are butthurt that people don’t want to vote for a communist revolution.
Does anyone have a link to the Wes Streeting briefing? I can’t find any other evidence for this claim after hitting google
That’s not quite what they said though is it? Saying you’d send army nurses to make sure the risk to patients was minimised isn’t controversial to me. He doesn’t even say the nurses are wrong to strike
Novaromedia.. now there is an impartial news source if I have ever seen one, and totally unlikely to be sensationalist to push their own agenda
Lol
Nice choice of image, I’m not sure that’s how they plan to use the army.
If I am unfortunate enough to be taken ill I look forward to being medevac’d out in a Huey. Those guys don’t hang around.. in and out in under 20 seconds.
“Ensuring as many patients as possible can receive the care they need”
Oh the horror! What a bunch of fascists! How very dare they…
If they break the NHS strikes they will still lose. Why stay? The pay is crap, the hours are bad and the stress horrendous. Morale is appalling, and being told all you deserve is a pay cut for being run utterly ragged after years of pay cuts, and you can’t even put the heating on when you get home..
Novara media spinning this shit to make it worse than it actually is in order to reduce Labour votes and it’s working on you lot as usual. What was ACTUALLY said is that Labour supports military personal aiding the remaining NHS workers who remain on the job to cover essential services in order to maximise patient safety. This isn’t controversial.
They don’t even provide a source for this claim, btw.
Break the strike is a bit hyperbolic, especially considering there aren’t enough medics in the army to make much difference. Seems more like a case of using the army to help out during strikes.
Everybody in the comments talking about this being right-wing. I’m not quite understanding how that is the case. The army comes in for cases of emergency and even helped during the pandemic to save lives.
These strikes seem like a case of emergency and reasonable for the army to assist, I’m not understanding how that is a right or left issue. Nurses don’t want to strike and they don’t want people to die, nobody does, so if the army can save lives then that can only be a good thing. I’m not seeing how this is a Left vs. Right issue.
I imagine most nurses would approve of alternative care provision being supplied
The point of nurses going on strike isn’t to let people suffer neglect or die
It’s to shame the government into beginning serious negotiations
Ah, another article from novaramedia where the headline misrepresents a quote from Labour.
>Under the question of whether Labour would support using the army during NHS strikes, it reads: “Ensuring as many patients as possible can receive the care they need must be a priority, so yes”
Not allowing patients to die needlessly (I support the strikes fwiw) by calling in the army if nurses are striking is a sensible and compassionate solution to a hypothetical situation of ‘no nurses’. You’d think Labour would be far less intransigent during negotiations (ie would actually have some). It’s mostly irrelevant though seeing as they’re not the ones responsible for this strike action, aren’t we 13 years into tory control?
Hold the fucking phone, this headline is seriously distorting the facts:
>Under the question of whether Labour would support using the army during NHS strikes, it reads: “Ensuring as many patients as possible can receive the care they need must be a priority, so yes.”
It also states in the article that Labour’s position is that using the army to fill NHS staffing shortages rather than emergency support is not a great position.
Also, who the fuck is Novara Media?
Edit: OP is clearly a bot farmer or a no lifer *consistently* posting anti-Starmer or Starmer slandering articles, usually with spin doctor titles.
This is incredibly misleading, Labour said they support using the army to supplement care not break up strikes. Incredibly terrible article and absolutely stupid title.
this is the problem with a two party state you end up with two completely incompetent groups of fucking morons who are on the side of corporations and will do whatever their donors pay them to do
illusion of choice such a worthless democracy we get to vote for who exploits us
It’s about time Labour changes its name to Tory Light. They don’t deserve the name Labour.
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Labour planning to utilize scab labour to break strikes. Fucking hell you dirty bastards.
Dickheads, definitely the last straw for me in refusing to vote for these grifting fucking sack of shit frauds
You can’t force people to work for you, even if you break the strikes. Maybe the army will jump in and realise just how shit the job actually is.
If it talks like a tory and acts like a tory
This is the controlled, measured opposition this country desperately needs. They’ll be offering to help chuck migrants into the sea at this rate.
Labour doesn’t support labour
Keith just can’t stop losing
>One senior defence source told the Telegraph: “**You’ve only got to look at a private soldier on £22,000 a year and whose pay scales have not kept up with inflation for the last decade** having to give up Christmas, or come straight off operations, t**o cover for people** who want 19 per cent and are **already paid in excess of what he or she would be**, and it’s just not right.”
And whose fault is that? The Tories.
Why is that private potentially having to give up Christmas? The Tories. This nursing strike is, as Starmer is quoted in the article, a badge of shame for the Tory party. It should never have come to this, but they’ve wanked themselves into a fever dream over the idea of selling off our healthcare to the private sector and so are doing their utmost to facilitate the failure of the NHS.
Doesn’t matter, not every soldier is a medic/medically trained, whereas every member of the NHS has a trained/qualified/certified role.
Also who says any patients will allow the army to even treat them.
It’s times like these I’m thankful that on the rare occasions when my constituency doesn’t go Tory, it goes Lib Dem.
If I actually had to vote for a Labour party that does this in the next election I’d be holding my nose so hard it would come off.
Novaramedia – sounds really reputable…
Is this the Corbyn lot again
What they going to do? Have the gurkahs storm nurses picketing? Paras on patrols round hospitals?
Fuck me, this is dire. They don’t realise this is a historic opportunity to make proper arguments for change, not the time to slink to the right. Twats
The headline and tone of this article are bollocks.
The army are not being used to break any strike. He was asked whether they should be used to help provide essential care and answered yes.
That’s not crossing a picket line, it’s helping ensure that people don’t actually die.
The Tories are awful and we need a general election immediately, but crap like this is 100% supporting the conservative party because Novara Media are butthurt that people don’t want to vote for a communist revolution.
Does anyone have a link to the Wes Streeting briefing? I can’t find any other evidence for this claim after hitting google
That’s not quite what they said though is it? Saying you’d send army nurses to make sure the risk to patients was minimised isn’t controversial to me. He doesn’t even say the nurses are wrong to strike
Novaromedia.. now there is an impartial news source if I have ever seen one, and totally unlikely to be sensationalist to push their own agenda
Lol
Nice choice of image, I’m not sure that’s how they plan to use the army.
If I am unfortunate enough to be taken ill I look forward to being medevac’d out in a Huey. Those guys don’t hang around.. in and out in under 20 seconds.
“Ensuring as many patients as possible can receive the care they need”
Oh the horror! What a bunch of fascists! How very dare they…
If they break the NHS strikes they will still lose. Why stay? The pay is crap, the hours are bad and the stress horrendous. Morale is appalling, and being told all you deserve is a pay cut for being run utterly ragged after years of pay cuts, and you can’t even put the heating on when you get home..
Novara media spinning this shit to make it worse than it actually is in order to reduce Labour votes and it’s working on you lot as usual. What was ACTUALLY said is that Labour supports military personal aiding the remaining NHS workers who remain on the job to cover essential services in order to maximise patient safety. This isn’t controversial.
They don’t even provide a source for this claim, btw.
Break the strike is a bit hyperbolic, especially considering there aren’t enough medics in the army to make much difference. Seems more like a case of using the army to help out during strikes.
Everybody in the comments talking about this being right-wing. I’m not quite understanding how that is the case. The army comes in for cases of emergency and even helped during the pandemic to save lives.
These strikes seem like a case of emergency and reasonable for the army to assist, I’m not understanding how that is a right or left issue. Nurses don’t want to strike and they don’t want people to die, nobody does, so if the army can save lives then that can only be a good thing. I’m not seeing how this is a Left vs. Right issue.
I imagine most nurses would approve of alternative care provision being supplied
The point of nurses going on strike isn’t to let people suffer neglect or die
It’s to shame the government into beginning serious negotiations
Ah, another article from novaramedia where the headline misrepresents a quote from Labour.
>Under the question of whether Labour would support using the army during NHS strikes, it reads: “Ensuring as many patients as possible can receive the care they need must be a priority, so yes”
Not allowing patients to die needlessly (I support the strikes fwiw) by calling in the army if nurses are striking is a sensible and compassionate solution to a hypothetical situation of ‘no nurses’. You’d think Labour would be far less intransigent during negotiations (ie would actually have some). It’s mostly irrelevant though seeing as they’re not the ones responsible for this strike action, aren’t we 13 years into tory control?
Hold the fucking phone, this headline is seriously distorting the facts:
>Under the question of whether Labour would support using the army during NHS strikes, it reads: “Ensuring as many patients as possible can receive the care they need must be a priority, so yes.”
It also states in the article that Labour’s position is that using the army to fill NHS staffing shortages rather than emergency support is not a great position.
Also, who the fuck is Novara Media?
Edit: OP is clearly a bot farmer or a no lifer *consistently* posting anti-Starmer or Starmer slandering articles, usually with spin doctor titles.
This is incredibly misleading, Labour said they support using the army to supplement care not break up strikes. Incredibly terrible article and absolutely stupid title.
this is the problem with a two party state you end up with two completely incompetent groups of fucking morons who are on the side of corporations and will do whatever their donors pay them to do
illusion of choice such a worthless democracy we get to vote for who exploits us
It’s about time Labour changes its name to Tory Light. They don’t deserve the name Labour.