How about bring back straws and ban “disposable vapes”
Might just be me, but one time plastic is far less destructive in the environment than those damn vapes.
This is good, but we need to be much more aggressively stamping out disposable/single use domestic items in general. All the good that came from banning straws and such has no doubt already been undone by the rise in popularity of those disposable vapes, they are far more wasteful and damaging to the environment.
I thought they already were. I haven’t handled plastic cutlery, plates, or polystyrene cups for ages. All the disposable cutlery I’ve used has been wood or bamboo, all the disposable coffee cups are made of cardboard.
It seems like a lot of companies have made a lot of voluntary improvements.
Fine, but I’m far more keen to see laws that force manufacturers to reduce single use plastics in packaging. I use a plastic fork maybe once or twice a year but every day I have to throw out a load of random plastic that wraps everything (often unnecessarily).
I just think you could very easily promote better alternatives by forcing manufacturers to take responsibility for the volume of waste they produce.
About 20 years too late. Now the demand is lower and less profit can be made they have no problem putting a stop to it.
Making shit for the lazy is ruining the planet. Stop catering to lazy cunts and make them do shit.
Needs to go further then that. Styrofoam, cellophane?
Most of these policies are so crap.
Most of them either effectively ban single items or push the problem onto the end customer who has no choice.
This is just the straw thing and plastic bag thing all over again.
If we ban plastic disposable cutlery over night, places will just switch to wooden disposable cutlery with zero innovation.
Is wooden disposable cutlery better? You’d assume but the comparison should 100% be made before switching.
The “paper” straws we use are often worse, they are often laminated and so have plastic mixed with paper which can’t be recycled easily compared to a plastic straw that is made of one material.
I’d much rather they just add a tax to the manufacturers of these goods and gradually increase it while giving that tax to fund alternatives or research into alternatives.
It would align business needs with the desired outcome. A company with the most efficient solution would pay less tax.
Pretty pointless lip service. It’s over fishing, bycatch and fishing waste materials that are the real issue, but they’ll bury their heads in the sand, accept brown envelopes and continue destroying the ocean at the same rate while we struggle to put fucking paper straws in capri suns
Tax the food companies for wrapping shit in plastic
What about poxy face masks? Still finding them in the gutter
Can’t really bring myself to care.
This feels very much like pushing a virtual non-problem onto consumers while the real issue is blazing away in the background. You’re gonna get limited results, major disruption for a few people and negligible change for most.
Like tree planing or cotton tote bags.
Found some thick wider diameter plastic straws in a shop the other day – awesome!!
We do reuse them though.
F$$k that paper sh$$.
I kind of wonder what I’m going to get my chicken in black bean sauce delivered in.
Lots of places aren’t using them anyway, because the catering supplies no longer suol
As long as alternatives are affordable for low-income families I’m happy with this.
They’ve done that in Norway. What happened is that they started selling ones you can wash and reuse… Which are then thrown away after a single use. Sorry, this isn’t gonna save the world like ecomentalists think.
It’s a diversion to take the attention away from the true polluters.
The issue I have with these initiatives is the question, is it actually any better for the environment? Or is it greenwashing for corporations and government? In the case of straws and plastic grocery bags, it seems the latter.
Meanwhile, disposable vapes are everywhere and they contain far more than just plastic.
Not really sure this is a good idea tbh, unless a cheap alternative for housing warm drinks has been discovered. We sell a lot of polystyrene cups to the local charities that feed homeless people and give them warm drinks. They obviously aren’t going to switch to reusable cups, so they’ll have to find a more expensive alternative, which just eats into the help they can offer.
I read on a UK post recently that more and more pubs are using plastic for beer, the reason …less people getting “glassed”!!
Isn’t polystyrene a waste by-product of the petroleum industry? What happens to all this polystyrene instead?
Good, although I havent seen an actual polystyrene cup in donkey’s years, I assumed they’d been banned a long time ago already. Did they mean plastic ones?
We now need to add plastic straws and plastic grocery bags, and excess plastic wrapping on literally everything, to the list.
We need a national standard for recycling. Every council should be recycling to a standard level.. Then all consumer goods should be recyclable and even the labels should be degrade easily.
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Good. Should have happened decades ago.
How about bring back straws and ban “disposable vapes”
Might just be me, but one time plastic is far less destructive in the environment than those damn vapes.
This is good, but we need to be much more aggressively stamping out disposable/single use domestic items in general. All the good that came from banning straws and such has no doubt already been undone by the rise in popularity of those disposable vapes, they are far more wasteful and damaging to the environment.
I thought they already were. I haven’t handled plastic cutlery, plates, or polystyrene cups for ages. All the disposable cutlery I’ve used has been wood or bamboo, all the disposable coffee cups are made of cardboard.
It seems like a lot of companies have made a lot of voluntary improvements.
Fine, but I’m far more keen to see laws that force manufacturers to reduce single use plastics in packaging. I use a plastic fork maybe once or twice a year but every day I have to throw out a load of random plastic that wraps everything (often unnecessarily).
I just think you could very easily promote better alternatives by forcing manufacturers to take responsibility for the volume of waste they produce.
About 20 years too late. Now the demand is lower and less profit can be made they have no problem putting a stop to it.
Making shit for the lazy is ruining the planet. Stop catering to lazy cunts and make them do shit.
Needs to go further then that. Styrofoam, cellophane?
Most of these policies are so crap.
Most of them either effectively ban single items or push the problem onto the end customer who has no choice.
This is just the straw thing and plastic bag thing all over again.
If we ban plastic disposable cutlery over night, places will just switch to wooden disposable cutlery with zero innovation.
Is wooden disposable cutlery better? You’d assume but the comparison should 100% be made before switching.
The “paper” straws we use are often worse, they are often laminated and so have plastic mixed with paper which can’t be recycled easily compared to a plastic straw that is made of one material.
I’d much rather they just add a tax to the manufacturers of these goods and gradually increase it while giving that tax to fund alternatives or research into alternatives.
It would align business needs with the desired outcome. A company with the most efficient solution would pay less tax.
Pretty pointless lip service. It’s over fishing, bycatch and fishing waste materials that are the real issue, but they’ll bury their heads in the sand, accept brown envelopes and continue destroying the ocean at the same rate while we struggle to put fucking paper straws in capri suns
Tax the food companies for wrapping shit in plastic
What about poxy face masks? Still finding them in the gutter
Can’t really bring myself to care.
This feels very much like pushing a virtual non-problem onto consumers while the real issue is blazing away in the background. You’re gonna get limited results, major disruption for a few people and negligible change for most.
Like tree planing or cotton tote bags.
Found some thick wider diameter plastic straws in a shop the other day – awesome!!
We do reuse them though.
F$$k that paper sh$$.
I kind of wonder what I’m going to get my chicken in black bean sauce delivered in.
Lots of places aren’t using them anyway, because the catering supplies no longer suol
As long as alternatives are affordable for low-income families I’m happy with this.
They’ve done that in Norway. What happened is that they started selling ones you can wash and reuse… Which are then thrown away after a single use. Sorry, this isn’t gonna save the world like ecomentalists think.
It’s a diversion to take the attention away from the true polluters.
The issue I have with these initiatives is the question, is it actually any better for the environment? Or is it greenwashing for corporations and government? In the case of straws and plastic grocery bags, it seems the latter.
Meanwhile, disposable vapes are everywhere and they contain far more than just plastic.
Not really sure this is a good idea tbh, unless a cheap alternative for housing warm drinks has been discovered. We sell a lot of polystyrene cups to the local charities that feed homeless people and give them warm drinks. They obviously aren’t going to switch to reusable cups, so they’ll have to find a more expensive alternative, which just eats into the help they can offer.
I read on a UK post recently that more and more pubs are using plastic for beer, the reason …less people getting “glassed”!!
Isn’t polystyrene a waste by-product of the petroleum industry? What happens to all this polystyrene instead?
Good, although I havent seen an actual polystyrene cup in donkey’s years, I assumed they’d been banned a long time ago already. Did they mean plastic ones?
We now need to add plastic straws and plastic grocery bags, and excess plastic wrapping on literally everything, to the list.
We need a national standard for recycling. Every council should be recycling to a standard level.. Then all consumer goods should be recyclable and even the labels should be degrade easily.