The right to strike is a cornerstone of a functioning democracy and a fundamental right, for example under the European Social Charter. But Sunak & his henchmen will simply undermine us all again & change the rules to suit themselves. Isn’t it time we had an elected government?
I wonder what people think the alternative is?
Non peaceful protest?
Just not having people do the job?
Or do they really think that without these, no one would strike / protest?
I feel like this is some french nobility logic waiting to happen.
Take away people’s right to peaceful protest and strike action and I’m not sure they will like the path that it will lead them down.
You stop playing by the rules and so will we.
Minimum service levels stop us from striking on the railway, sweet I’ll be at work but I will be finding every little way to not do any work. Single typo ? Jobs cancelled. Wrong milage ? Jobs cancelled. Failure to attend ? What a shame I seem to have picked up a slow puncture.
Cable job needing done to run the line in the morning ? Times are hard cable theft is on the rise.
Or we could go back to the old ways where we just down tools at any given moment.
Or hell we could go even more old school RMT has 40k members whose to say we don’t fancy a wee trip to London. Posties have even more. How many folk would it take to shut down London ?
I’ll say it. Like I’ve said before, The government have seen of the United States legislature ban striking of the rail workers a couple weeks back and now the UK government is thinking the same thing. For UK government would happily ban striking and it would most likely go for the rail industry first, not the nurses because the nurse is command so much public sympathy.
Even if the government attempted to ban striking, it wouldn’t work long term. If you look at the French Revolution the people raise up and over through the government history does repeat itself and the government and no possession to essentially make a dictatorship doesn’t have the man power for that
When you have a well run, well supported union there is no need to strike, because they work with companies to protect workers. Look at Germany, they literally have representatives in board meetings.
The wannabe politician in the RMT is on a power trip and is quickly becoming fucktard of the year. The RCN have always been crap, never really bothered with the erosion of nursing standards, never bothered with understaffed shifts. And in the coming strike many many nurses don’t know what they can and cannot do.
As we’ve seen from China and Iran recently, banning peaceful protests totally works, all of the time and has no drawbacks or repercussions at all.
This is one of the main reasons of Brexit, deregulation of health and safety laws.
But then how will they pay us less get us to work more and give companies more profit?
Strikes ARE the COMPROMISE. Take them away and then people go back to the old method to settle grievances.
I feel the government wants to emulate China and become a police state..
Public and civil rights are slowy slowly being curbed under new laws every year..
One thing I love about the UK is that it let the strikes continue instead of placing a gun to the heads of the rail workers and forcing them back to work like the US.
The UK needs to move on from the anti-union rhetoric from the Thatcher era and understand why it is so important for employees to have power in this day and age. Wealth inequality is getting worse and unions are the only chance we really have at getting a decent pay increase at the moment. Strikes might be inconvenient but people are striking for good reasons, ones any worker should understand. As with protests, there may eventually come a time when you need to strike and now find yourself unable to due to new laws implemented when you felt the inconvenience they caused you made them justifiable.
I mean that’s what brexit was though. A referendum on whether or not we like workers rights. 52% of voters felt that workers had it too good in the UK.
With too many opportunities both here and in the EU, and thought “let’s bring us back to the good old days of poverty for the masses”
England voted the Tories in, who then created a mini-line of rulers. How are people surprised that this is the result?
Labour had a chance with Corbyn to make things better, now we have Starmer (a Tory wannabe lapdog) and Richy Sunak attacking strikers for trying to actually change things. Fantastic.
People are going to protest and strike regardless of its legal status, whether it’s peaceful picket lines or nationwide riots is up to the clowns in government
Striking and protesting shouldn’t be conflated in my opinion. Protest is about having your voice heard, and a part of the democratic process.
Striking is about breaching your contract with an employer to force them to offer better terms for yourself and fellow strikers.
Go ask a specific generation of people what they think, to them “Union” is a swear word. The Thatcher era ingrained an anti-union sentiment that still resonates today.
People look back on “The winter of discontent” as a time where the “militant” unions brought the country to its knees and it was only Thatcher who was able to save the day. Hell, even documentaries about the Winter of Discontent spout anti-union propaganda.
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The right to strike is a cornerstone of a functioning democracy and a fundamental right, for example under the European Social Charter. But Sunak & his henchmen will simply undermine us all again & change the rules to suit themselves. Isn’t it time we had an elected government?
I wonder what people think the alternative is?
Non peaceful protest?
Just not having people do the job?
Or do they really think that without these, no one would strike / protest?
I feel like this is some french nobility logic waiting to happen.
Take away people’s right to peaceful protest and strike action and I’m not sure they will like the path that it will lead them down.
You stop playing by the rules and so will we.
Minimum service levels stop us from striking on the railway, sweet I’ll be at work but I will be finding every little way to not do any work. Single typo ? Jobs cancelled. Wrong milage ? Jobs cancelled. Failure to attend ? What a shame I seem to have picked up a slow puncture.
Cable job needing done to run the line in the morning ? Times are hard cable theft is on the rise.
Or we could go back to the old ways where we just down tools at any given moment.
Or hell we could go even more old school RMT has 40k members whose to say we don’t fancy a wee trip to London. Posties have even more. How many folk would it take to shut down London ?
I’ll say it. Like I’ve said before, The government have seen of the United States legislature ban striking of the rail workers a couple weeks back and now the UK government is thinking the same thing. For UK government would happily ban striking and it would most likely go for the rail industry first, not the nurses because the nurse is command so much public sympathy.
Even if the government attempted to ban striking, it wouldn’t work long term. If you look at the French Revolution the people raise up and over through the government history does repeat itself and the government and no possession to essentially make a dictatorship doesn’t have the man power for that
When you have a well run, well supported union there is no need to strike, because they work with companies to protect workers. Look at Germany, they literally have representatives in board meetings.
The wannabe politician in the RMT is on a power trip and is quickly becoming fucktard of the year. The RCN have always been crap, never really bothered with the erosion of nursing standards, never bothered with understaffed shifts. And in the coming strike many many nurses don’t know what they can and cannot do.
As we’ve seen from China and Iran recently, banning peaceful protests totally works, all of the time and has no drawbacks or repercussions at all.
This is one of the main reasons of Brexit, deregulation of health and safety laws.
But then how will they pay us less get us to work more and give companies more profit?
Strikes ARE the COMPROMISE. Take them away and then people go back to the old method to settle grievances.
I feel the government wants to emulate China and become a police state..
Public and civil rights are slowy slowly being curbed under new laws every year..
One thing I love about the UK is that it let the strikes continue instead of placing a gun to the heads of the rail workers and forcing them back to work like the US.
The UK needs to move on from the anti-union rhetoric from the Thatcher era and understand why it is so important for employees to have power in this day and age. Wealth inequality is getting worse and unions are the only chance we really have at getting a decent pay increase at the moment. Strikes might be inconvenient but people are striking for good reasons, ones any worker should understand. As with protests, there may eventually come a time when you need to strike and now find yourself unable to due to new laws implemented when you felt the inconvenience they caused you made them justifiable.
I mean that’s what brexit was though. A referendum on whether or not we like workers rights. 52% of voters felt that workers had it too good in the UK.
With too many opportunities both here and in the EU, and thought “let’s bring us back to the good old days of poverty for the masses”
England voted the Tories in, who then created a mini-line of rulers. How are people surprised that this is the result?
Labour had a chance with Corbyn to make things better, now we have Starmer (a Tory wannabe lapdog) and Richy Sunak attacking strikers for trying to actually change things. Fantastic.
People are going to protest and strike regardless of its legal status, whether it’s peaceful picket lines or nationwide riots is up to the clowns in government
Striking and protesting shouldn’t be conflated in my opinion. Protest is about having your voice heard, and a part of the democratic process.
Striking is about breaching your contract with an employer to force them to offer better terms for yourself and fellow strikers.
Go ask a specific generation of people what they think, to them “Union” is a swear word. The Thatcher era ingrained an anti-union sentiment that still resonates today.
People look back on “The winter of discontent” as a time where the “militant” unions brought the country to its knees and it was only Thatcher who was able to save the day. Hell, even documentaries about the Winter of Discontent spout anti-union propaganda.