Ten years of austerity, under paying junior doctors and nurses, Leaving them working 3 – 4 different roles into one, had them massively overextended due to Covid and now are fucking their pay again.
This is all intentional so the Tories can rally behind the cry ‘The NHS is broken’ so they can sell it off piecemeal and implement the US style health system.
During the pandemic, the number of people seeking medical help declined drastically across the board, including for things like suspected cancer that would still have been occurring in the population at the same rate as before the pandemic. This created a backlog of medical issues in the population and meant that many people only sought help for issues when they were at a more advanced stage and are therefore more difficult to treat. Every doctor I know saw this coming and yet nothing was done about it.
It’s all going to plan. Thatcher would be delighted.
If you stood at your door step to clap on a Thursday during the pandemic or put up Rainbow stickers in your Windows and if now you do not stand by the Nurses. You never supported them.
The torries planned this, cripple the NHS then release a cheap private alternative, once every one swaps, shut the NHS down, then crank up the prices like America.
My mum was literally saying we are going to the American system because GPs are lazy.
Im so sick and tired of lustening to her her, her customers and other morons talk in a way that will destroy this country.
Everyone is exhausted… I can’t begin to comprehend how even more exhausted those that worked through the pandemic are.
The big elephant once more being ignored, is mental health. This country is suffering from collective PTSD.
It’s as if people want it to break so it can be sold off and privatised.
Have two governments….. One running everything to do with the National Insurance system ie pensions, sick pay, benefits and NHS. And another government to do with everything else…. that way, capitalism is split off from cradle to end of life welfare care.
Just a radical thought…. down vote me, I don’t care, but someone needs to try new suggestions?
The country is done. Finished. Glad I don’t live in Tory britain
Tories : “People can vote on whether or not we’ll leave the EU”
And
Tories : “There will be no vote on privatising the NHS”
They’ve been pushed to breaking point by years of inept and corrupt governments.
The system has been broken for years,it can take decades sometime for government deceit to achieve its aim so we could get a few more years of the death throes of this once magnificent institution.The strikes are just another indication of how dire the situation is..l shall get downvoted for not coming back with a clever,snappy response but l say what l see.
Nurses are complaining about staff shortages. We need more immigration. There is literally thousands of Filipino nurses for example who would be happy to take nursing jobs at no increase in pay. Just being able to take a job in the UK would be a massive pay increase for them. They are all very experienced too needing at least 2 years experience before even applying.
It’s all part of the plan to get us all to start paying for private care and sell of the nhs …
I came into work today – we’re understaffed again, I’m using student nurses rather than fully qualified staff just to keep things running, I’ve already given a pep talk to a junior doctor who is nearing breaking point themselves.
And then I get abuse from a certain kind of patient ( DM reader ) about how *I* am lazy and that *I* am the cause of inflation, Brexit and **** knows what else. Oh, and their breakfast was late…
Just a reminder to everyone. If the Tories sell off bits of the NHS, those workers will be treated even more shittily than now.
Unpopular opinion: the NHS would have more than enough money if it were run and managed more efficiently.
To be clear and TLDR, boots on the ground have my respect. managment, not so much.
My father worked in the admin side of the NHS. Within a week of working there he had found a way to save £25,000 on a single tiny project (this was approx 30 years ago so increase with inflation). When he approached his boss about this he said he didnt really care and brushed him off.
My father worked there for over a decade and this was a weekly, sometimes daily occurance. There was simply no incentive for the higher ups to save money at all. If they screwed up, it was on the govenment, not them, if they did well (which never happened) same thing.
I mean just as a patient, i have had to have 3 MRIs done for the same ENT issue because 3 practice areas wouldn’t or couldnt share their records, ive had the same blood work done half a dozen times + because one department wont look at the records of another or again its in another practice area. You want to know whats costing money or causing long queues, there’s a good place to start. A single data server (with multiple backups) holding all NHS information would save billions.
I’d prefer to privatise it, all the lard arses in this country live like filthy slobs, never exercise, eat rubbish and obviously get sick, they then expect the NHS to work miracles to make them better. Make them pay!
My Wife is in her 2nd year of being a student midwife and some of the things she has been expected to handle as a student is rediculous. They have about 10 mothers (20 minimum lives) per midwife, and alot of time the student is doing the majority of the work.
The wards are full to the max, calls from delivery to say they are sending more new patients up even though there is no beds available.
Nothing seems to be changing, the expectation of doing more with less seems to be the core message in NHS atm
Everyone knows someone or of someone that’s died due to poor care or services by the NHS. People die all the time because of their terrible ambulance situation, from not getting appointment and missing the window for treatment of illnesses.
I’m sick and tired of people in this country acting like the NHS is above criticism, it’s a shit show and people that are proud of it are nothing more than nationalist idiots at this point in time imo.
Fucking clapping for it on their doorsteps while people were dying lying on pavements waiting for hours in the freezing cold like people in North Korea in parades cheering on their glorious leader. Just stop. Stop giving praise to that death factory.
All part of the tory plan to bring in private health for those that can afford it.
The Tory’s have been “Starving the Beast” for over a decade now hoping the NHS would collapse and they could privatise it.
The people are breaking because of a broken system.
I was talking to a friend today and she is a staff nurse and she said it’s not just about the pay but the lack of staff and beds.
She mentioned about 2 nurses who qualified a couple of years ago and they regularly only have them two on duty on their ward and she said they are now a shadow of what they used to be as they are totally overwhelmed with the way things are.
She also mentioned that three times a day the hospital has a system where they are allowed to put three extra trollies in the corridors.
She also mentioned a guy a few weeks ago was admitted and fell off his trolley and injured himself but it took 12 hours before a nurse got to see to him, sadly he died.
Both the nurses and the ambulance crews have solidarity with each other and yet we see this hard right regime running our country are trying to divide us against one or the other.
She also mentioned that when she too( up nursing she was paid 15k while training, now it’s the case that a student nurse lands up with student debt.
Let’s get on thing right they like the railway workers are not just fighting for pay but safety also.
Looking up how much each country spends on healthcare and accounting for population, the UK seems just bit behind Germany and above France. So I don’t think the amount spent is the problem – it’s easy to just claim that all would get better if only we taxed the rich bit more or if only there would be less corruption and tax evasion, but while it’s fine to think about these higher level questions too, the first thing that comes to my mind really is, why is the NHS working so badly if it gets not so little money. It surely isn’t because the wages would be too high, if anything they’re way too low, and it isn’t because the doctors and nurses here would be uneducated or unprepared either that NHS is in shambles. So where all that money that could be used here disappears? Some stupid admin costs? Paying for overpriced equipment? I’m genuinely curious.
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No shit.
Ten years of austerity, under paying junior doctors and nurses, Leaving them working 3 – 4 different roles into one, had them massively overextended due to Covid and now are fucking their pay again.
This is all intentional so the Tories can rally behind the cry ‘The NHS is broken’ so they can sell it off piecemeal and implement the US style health system.
During the pandemic, the number of people seeking medical help declined drastically across the board, including for things like suspected cancer that would still have been occurring in the population at the same rate as before the pandemic. This created a backlog of medical issues in the population and meant that many people only sought help for issues when they were at a more advanced stage and are therefore more difficult to treat. Every doctor I know saw this coming and yet nothing was done about it.
It’s all going to plan. Thatcher would be delighted.
If you stood at your door step to clap on a Thursday during the pandemic or put up Rainbow stickers in your Windows and if now you do not stand by the Nurses. You never supported them.
The torries planned this, cripple the NHS then release a cheap private alternative, once every one swaps, shut the NHS down, then crank up the prices like America.
My mum was literally saying we are going to the American system because GPs are lazy.
Im so sick and tired of lustening to her her, her customers and other morons talk in a way that will destroy this country.
Everyone is exhausted… I can’t begin to comprehend how even more exhausted those that worked through the pandemic are.
The big elephant once more being ignored, is mental health. This country is suffering from collective PTSD.
It’s as if people want it to break so it can be sold off and privatised.
Have two governments….. One running everything to do with the National Insurance system ie pensions, sick pay, benefits and NHS. And another government to do with everything else…. that way, capitalism is split off from cradle to end of life welfare care.
Just a radical thought…. down vote me, I don’t care, but someone needs to try new suggestions?
The country is done. Finished. Glad I don’t live in Tory britain
Tories : “People can vote on whether or not we’ll leave the EU”
And
Tories : “There will be no vote on privatising the NHS”
They’ve been pushed to breaking point by years of inept and corrupt governments.
The system has been broken for years,it can take decades sometime for government deceit to achieve its aim so we could get a few more years of the death throes of this once magnificent institution.The strikes are just another indication of how dire the situation is..l shall get downvoted for not coming back with a clever,snappy response but l say what l see.
Nurses are complaining about staff shortages. We need more immigration. There is literally thousands of Filipino nurses for example who would be happy to take nursing jobs at no increase in pay. Just being able to take a job in the UK would be a massive pay increase for them. They are all very experienced too needing at least 2 years experience before even applying.
It’s all part of the plan to get us all to start paying for private care and sell of the nhs …
I came into work today – we’re understaffed again, I’m using student nurses rather than fully qualified staff just to keep things running, I’ve already given a pep talk to a junior doctor who is nearing breaking point themselves.
And then I get abuse from a certain kind of patient ( DM reader ) about how *I* am lazy and that *I* am the cause of inflation, Brexit and **** knows what else. Oh, and their breakfast was late…
Just a reminder to everyone. If the Tories sell off bits of the NHS, those workers will be treated even more shittily than now.
Unpopular opinion: the NHS would have more than enough money if it were run and managed more efficiently.
To be clear and TLDR, boots on the ground have my respect. managment, not so much.
My father worked in the admin side of the NHS. Within a week of working there he had found a way to save £25,000 on a single tiny project (this was approx 30 years ago so increase with inflation). When he approached his boss about this he said he didnt really care and brushed him off.
My father worked there for over a decade and this was a weekly, sometimes daily occurance. There was simply no incentive for the higher ups to save money at all. If they screwed up, it was on the govenment, not them, if they did well (which never happened) same thing.
I mean just as a patient, i have had to have 3 MRIs done for the same ENT issue because 3 practice areas wouldn’t or couldnt share their records, ive had the same blood work done half a dozen times + because one department wont look at the records of another or again its in another practice area. You want to know whats costing money or causing long queues, there’s a good place to start. A single data server (with multiple backups) holding all NHS information would save billions.
I’d prefer to privatise it, all the lard arses in this country live like filthy slobs, never exercise, eat rubbish and obviously get sick, they then expect the NHS to work miracles to make them better. Make them pay!
My Wife is in her 2nd year of being a student midwife and some of the things she has been expected to handle as a student is rediculous. They have about 10 mothers (20 minimum lives) per midwife, and alot of time the student is doing the majority of the work.
The wards are full to the max, calls from delivery to say they are sending more new patients up even though there is no beds available.
Nothing seems to be changing, the expectation of doing more with less seems to be the core message in NHS atm
Everyone knows someone or of someone that’s died due to poor care or services by the NHS. People die all the time because of their terrible ambulance situation, from not getting appointment and missing the window for treatment of illnesses.
I’m sick and tired of people in this country acting like the NHS is above criticism, it’s a shit show and people that are proud of it are nothing more than nationalist idiots at this point in time imo.
Fucking clapping for it on their doorsteps while people were dying lying on pavements waiting for hours in the freezing cold like people in North Korea in parades cheering on their glorious leader. Just stop. Stop giving praise to that death factory.
All part of the tory plan to bring in private health for those that can afford it.
The Tory’s have been “Starving the Beast” for over a decade now hoping the NHS would collapse and they could privatise it.
The people are breaking because of a broken system.
I was talking to a friend today and she is a staff nurse and she said it’s not just about the pay but the lack of staff and beds.
She mentioned about 2 nurses who qualified a couple of years ago and they regularly only have them two on duty on their ward and she said they are now a shadow of what they used to be as they are totally overwhelmed with the way things are.
She also mentioned that three times a day the hospital has a system where they are allowed to put three extra trollies in the corridors.
She also mentioned a guy a few weeks ago was admitted and fell off his trolley and injured himself but it took 12 hours before a nurse got to see to him, sadly he died.
Both the nurses and the ambulance crews have solidarity with each other and yet we see this hard right regime running our country are trying to divide us against one or the other.
She also mentioned that when she too( up nursing she was paid 15k while training, now it’s the case that a student nurse lands up with student debt.
Let’s get on thing right they like the railway workers are not just fighting for pay but safety also.
Looking up how much each country spends on healthcare and accounting for population, the UK seems just bit behind Germany and above France. So I don’t think the amount spent is the problem – it’s easy to just claim that all would get better if only we taxed the rich bit more or if only there would be less corruption and tax evasion, but while it’s fine to think about these higher level questions too, the first thing that comes to my mind really is, why is the NHS working so badly if it gets not so little money. It surely isn’t because the wages would be too high, if anything they’re way too low, and it isn’t because the doctors and nurses here would be uneducated or unprepared either that NHS is in shambles. So where all that money that could be used here disappears? Some stupid admin costs? Paying for overpriced equipment? I’m genuinely curious.