Okay, we can all get on with our Don’t Pay protesting unhindered now… oh wait
Had no choice really, they were losing moderate support from the public. If you have a cause always keep moderates on your side.
Can see all the right wingers being happy that one of the last major voices against destroying the environment are giving up.
It’s a real shame, we really need more people out there trying to make something happen.
Give it a few weeks, the same activists doing the same things will return under a different name.
Wait.
It says “*WE QUIT*, however if you read their statement it suggests that they’re not quitting at all. The title doesn’t make any sense, they’re even planning a march right at the end of it.
I don’t think they’re stopping at all, they’re just putting this title to grab attention.
And it’s working.
Has anyone read the article or just the headline? They haven’t quit.
So all they’re doing is stopping using disruption as their main tool and focussing on getting people involved rather than getting them arrested.
Seems like a good way to increase support.
They aren’t quitting as an organisation, the announcement via the link says they are quitting disruptive protests for now and focusing on other forms of protest.
“XR is committed to including everyone in this work and leaving no one behind, because everyone has a role to play. This year, we prioritise attendance over arrest and relationships over roadblocks, as we stand together and become impossible to ignore.”
As someone who has been an environmentalist since the 1980s, I never felt that XRs tactics were particularly effective. The fact that they’re now saying they’re quiting disrupting the public only shows their lack of strategic thinking from the outset. The organisation needs to get policy changes, not by being the people who are seen as stopping ambulances from getting to patients but by being a hub for trustworthy information for the masses to push through policy change on things like energy, the right to repair, reduction of packaging and sustainable living. The whole extinction and rebellion monikers are just too childish to be taken seriously by the masses. Better to rethink and regroup as a force for information and policy change than super gluing body parts to roads.
They’re not quitting, they just don’t intend to get themselves pointlessly arrested anymore.
Now the gloves come off.
Pissing off the public doesn’t rally them to your cause, it rallies them against you.
If you want to make a change, go cause trouble for all suits and CEOs.
This is like when Fergie quit the Black Eyed Peas, they were never the same.
Nice they have actually quit doing protests, an now they are actually making parliament the main drive and not the working class, good for them
This is a clear move. As a result of being disruptive, Extinction Rebellion is now a household name (well, in regards to British action movements).
With a fairly large body of supporters, they can now pull off rallies with ease. It’s actually very strategic of them.
Did they run out of entirely irrelevant things to glue themselves to?
Makes sense. It would be better to push for lots of smaller things, easier to get to happen, less disruptive.
Push for things at a local level, like encouraging your council to add more bike lanes, green powered buses, reducing bus fares (£5 for a return by bus in my hometown is insane!), more regular bus services, putting solar panels on public and commercial buildings, etc.
Push for small things at a national level, like Germany’s bottle deposit scheme, or energy independence from Russia and the Middle East.
Many small changes will have more impact.
They’re basically admitting that their tactics suck.
I was critical at first, but extinction rebellion really impressed a sense of urgency on me. Fair play to them, I even sat in a jam of theirs one time. Did make me think about how daft it is all these people in these big metal boxes all driving to more or less the same few places on their own.
Wait till summers are 45 degrees and crops fail globally. That’s when people will start doing too little too late. I don’t think people realise how fucked we are.
Good riddance. Although I know it is clickbait, but the disruption you caused to people’s lives will not be missed.
Nothing will change until a big ticket city, so London, Paris, New York or anywhere else aliens destroy in all movies gets problems relating to climate change, then and only then will humans react.
Humans don’t do anything proactively only ever reactionary. Been out story all of our lives.
I don’t think a single person who was stuck in traffic thought “I like these people, I’d like to support them”.
I tried hard to not let that make me think negatively about fighting climate change, because if the oil industry was smart they’d fund a disruptive eco group. I don’t for one second think that’s what has happened, but we must try to make our decisions based on facts alone.
I think they worked out how to really shut down the economy by working with the unions. A lot less messier too.
I only ever heard of XR due to their disruption. I can’t name you a single other climate protest organisation apart from Just Stop Oil, which use similar tactics.
I disagree, but I respect that they don’t want to put their friends in Jail. It wouldn’t be me on the frontline.
I expect I’ll not hear from them at all after this. The thing with challenging the media, is you need to do something to get their attention that goes beyond “we don’t like you” and a battle of words. Because then you get put on the piers show and strung along through bad faith arguments and misinformation.
40 years from now: “We would have listened if you just weren’t so disruptive” as they collect their 4th same day delivery order of a single item, in winter, with the heating full blast but windows open because they still want fresh air. Convenience is killing us.
Guess we’re going back to all the methods of protest and activism that not only didn’t work but also failed to gain any public attention.
We’re really just completely fucked aren’t we. People are incapable of thinking critically beyond the news tutting about what a nuisance it all is and how actually we all just need to use less heating. We’ve gotten to a point where people will just think ‘climate change is bad but I guess there’s nothing to be done huh’, as people shut down airports and disrupting industry in ways that have literally put enough pressure on the government to expand laws to take away your freedoms to protest, but they’re the bad guys in all of this.
No, this nebulous idea of public support where they sit around giving the same messages while you Nod and say ‘ooh yes we really should do something about this climate change buisness I’m glad they stopped doing things about this climate change buisness though’ and then go back to doing fuck all
Hey, you found my comment!
Well done you!
It’s not as grumpy as some of the others here, but that’s alright, it’s a serious topic that deserves serious discussion.
So what am I doing fucking about with this comment? Oh I just got bored of all the uninformed anger and then informed counter-anger and wanted to leave a little light in the comments…
Have fun! 🤩
Just a bunch of selfish, arrogant arseholes….good riddance
Seems like while they’re portraying it as changing tactics, this really is just them giving up. They’re being way too vague and wishy washy, I suspect they’re just going to fade into irrelevancy, though to be fair they weren’t all that effective to begin with. If they wanted to actually bring about change they should’ve switched to direct action and messed with the opening of new coal mines in the UK.
Damn, they realised what they were doing wasn’t working. Who would’ve thunk it
Are these the plonkers who keep delaying my journeys? Good quit faster.
Good. Never supported their stupid ‘tactics’ of doing stuff like blocking roads etc. If they found a different way of doing it, maybe I’d have agreed. But I have no respect for them whatsoever because of the tactics they use. They’re blocking people from getting to work, flights, trains, important things which they need to attend, and it’s unacceptable. So it’s good that they’re not doing it again.
This is great news! Solid cause, but awful tactics thus far
Notice how we’re all aware of this organisation? Because of disruptive protests, they work, they’re not ideal but neither are widespread famines
Thank you for your hard work Extinction Rebellion! Reminder that while the UK is arguing over petty things like nurses pay the UK has not ever given its share of the agreed upon 100 bn $ a year of the green climate fund.
The environment is a global thing and if we are to avert the climate crisis the developing countries that currently produce most of the emissions must be helped to transition to clean energy! We are literally talking about the health of the planet earth here.
It’s too cold for the middle class wankers to come out to play .Who wants to sit down on a cold road in a wet British winter they will be back in April /May.
It’s just the twin moronic things of
– Believing climate change to be about political ideology- Believing politics has the answers
Flawed on both counts. If you think every question is political you’re doomed to get the wrong solutions.
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Okay, we can all get on with our Don’t Pay protesting unhindered now… oh wait
Had no choice really, they were losing moderate support from the public. If you have a cause always keep moderates on your side.
Can see all the right wingers being happy that one of the last major voices against destroying the environment are giving up.
It’s a real shame, we really need more people out there trying to make something happen.
Give it a few weeks, the same activists doing the same things will return under a different name.
Wait.
It says “*WE QUIT*, however if you read their statement it suggests that they’re not quitting at all. The title doesn’t make any sense, they’re even planning a march right at the end of it.
I don’t think they’re stopping at all, they’re just putting this title to grab attention.
And it’s working.
Has anyone read the article or just the headline? They haven’t quit.
So all they’re doing is stopping using disruption as their main tool and focussing on getting people involved rather than getting them arrested.
Seems like a good way to increase support.
They aren’t quitting as an organisation, the announcement via the link says they are quitting disruptive protests for now and focusing on other forms of protest.
“XR is committed to including everyone in this work and leaving no one behind, because everyone has a role to play. This year, we prioritise attendance over arrest and relationships over roadblocks, as we stand together and become impossible to ignore.”
As someone who has been an environmentalist since the 1980s, I never felt that XRs tactics were particularly effective. The fact that they’re now saying they’re quiting disrupting the public only shows their lack of strategic thinking from the outset. The organisation needs to get policy changes, not by being the people who are seen as stopping ambulances from getting to patients but by being a hub for trustworthy information for the masses to push through policy change on things like energy, the right to repair, reduction of packaging and sustainable living. The whole extinction and rebellion monikers are just too childish to be taken seriously by the masses. Better to rethink and regroup as a force for information and policy change than super gluing body parts to roads.
They’re not quitting, they just don’t intend to get themselves pointlessly arrested anymore.
Now the gloves come off.
Pissing off the public doesn’t rally them to your cause, it rallies them against you.
If you want to make a change, go cause trouble for all suits and CEOs.
This is like when Fergie quit the Black Eyed Peas, they were never the same.
Nice they have actually quit doing protests, an now they are actually making parliament the main drive and not the working class, good for them
This is a clear move. As a result of being disruptive, Extinction Rebellion is now a household name (well, in regards to British action movements).
With a fairly large body of supporters, they can now pull off rallies with ease. It’s actually very strategic of them.
Did they run out of entirely irrelevant things to glue themselves to?
Makes sense. It would be better to push for lots of smaller things, easier to get to happen, less disruptive.
Push for things at a local level, like encouraging your council to add more bike lanes, green powered buses, reducing bus fares (£5 for a return by bus in my hometown is insane!), more regular bus services, putting solar panels on public and commercial buildings, etc.
Push for small things at a national level, like Germany’s bottle deposit scheme, or energy independence from Russia and the Middle East.
Many small changes will have more impact.
They’re basically admitting that their tactics suck.
I was critical at first, but extinction rebellion really impressed a sense of urgency on me. Fair play to them, I even sat in a jam of theirs one time. Did make me think about how daft it is all these people in these big metal boxes all driving to more or less the same few places on their own.
Wait till summers are 45 degrees and crops fail globally. That’s when people will start doing too little too late. I don’t think people realise how fucked we are.
Good riddance. Although I know it is clickbait, but the disruption you caused to people’s lives will not be missed.
Nothing will change until a big ticket city, so London, Paris, New York or anywhere else aliens destroy in all movies gets problems relating to climate change, then and only then will humans react.
Humans don’t do anything proactively only ever reactionary. Been out story all of our lives.
I don’t think a single person who was stuck in traffic thought “I like these people, I’d like to support them”.
I tried hard to not let that make me think negatively about fighting climate change, because if the oil industry was smart they’d fund a disruptive eco group. I don’t for one second think that’s what has happened, but we must try to make our decisions based on facts alone.
I think they worked out how to really shut down the economy by working with the unions. A lot less messier too.
I only ever heard of XR due to their disruption. I can’t name you a single other climate protest organisation apart from Just Stop Oil, which use similar tactics.
I disagree, but I respect that they don’t want to put their friends in Jail. It wouldn’t be me on the frontline.
I expect I’ll not hear from them at all after this. The thing with challenging the media, is you need to do something to get their attention that goes beyond “we don’t like you” and a battle of words. Because then you get put on the piers show and strung along through bad faith arguments and misinformation.
40 years from now: “We would have listened if you just weren’t so disruptive” as they collect their 4th same day delivery order of a single item, in winter, with the heating full blast but windows open because they still want fresh air. Convenience is killing us.
Guess we’re going back to all the methods of protest and activism that not only didn’t work but also failed to gain any public attention.
We’re really just completely fucked aren’t we. People are incapable of thinking critically beyond the news tutting about what a nuisance it all is and how actually we all just need to use less heating. We’ve gotten to a point where people will just think ‘climate change is bad but I guess there’s nothing to be done huh’, as people shut down airports and disrupting industry in ways that have literally put enough pressure on the government to expand laws to take away your freedoms to protest, but they’re the bad guys in all of this.
No, this nebulous idea of public support where they sit around giving the same messages while you Nod and say ‘ooh yes we really should do something about this climate change buisness I’m glad they stopped doing things about this climate change buisness though’ and then go back to doing fuck all
Hey, you found my comment!
Well done you!
It’s not as grumpy as some of the others here, but that’s alright, it’s a serious topic that deserves serious discussion.
So what am I doing fucking about with this comment? Oh I just got bored of all the uninformed anger and then informed counter-anger and wanted to leave a little light in the comments…
Have fun! 🤩
Just a bunch of selfish, arrogant arseholes….good riddance
Seems like while they’re portraying it as changing tactics, this really is just them giving up. They’re being way too vague and wishy washy, I suspect they’re just going to fade into irrelevancy, though to be fair they weren’t all that effective to begin with. If they wanted to actually bring about change they should’ve switched to direct action and messed with the opening of new coal mines in the UK.
Damn, they realised what they were doing wasn’t working. Who would’ve thunk it
Are these the plonkers who keep delaying my journeys? Good quit faster.
Good. Never supported their stupid ‘tactics’ of doing stuff like blocking roads etc. If they found a different way of doing it, maybe I’d have agreed. But I have no respect for them whatsoever because of the tactics they use. They’re blocking people from getting to work, flights, trains, important things which they need to attend, and it’s unacceptable. So it’s good that they’re not doing it again.
This is great news! Solid cause, but awful tactics thus far
Notice how we’re all aware of this organisation? Because of disruptive protests, they work, they’re not ideal but neither are widespread famines
Thank you for your hard work Extinction Rebellion! Reminder that while the UK is arguing over petty things like nurses pay the UK has not ever given its share of the agreed upon 100 bn $ a year of the green climate fund.
The environment is a global thing and if we are to avert the climate crisis the developing countries that currently produce most of the emissions must be helped to transition to clean energy! We are literally talking about the health of the planet earth here.
It’s too cold for the middle class wankers to come out to play .Who wants to sit down on a cold road in a wet British winter they will be back in April /May.
It’s just the twin moronic things of
– Believing climate change to be about political ideology- Believing politics has the answers
Flawed on both counts. If you think every question is political you’re doomed to get the wrong solutions.