> Police have joined forces with anti-piracy investigators from FACT in “Operation Raider” and the knock on the door is likely to come as a huge shock. They will potentially be served with notices, be ordered to stop immediately and be warned of serious consequences if they carry on watching in one of the biggest clampdowns ever on illegal streaming.
So it’s like the three strike love letter warnings you used to get from ISPs over illegally downloading, just delivered by police.
And yet , car crime and burglary not considered crimes worthy of these policy officers. Its a fk’in joke.
Enforcing copyright on behalf of businesses, pretty fucking pathetic. Shouldn’t be a criminal offence, either.
If the Police force truly existed to serve the public, they’d be taking into account that no member of the public gives a fuck about Steveo and his mates watching illegal streams, but does care about the fact they’re basically a crime number generation service when it comes to being an actual victim of crime.
There’s people getting raped and killed on the streets every day, and instead they focus on the feelings of millionaires. Interesting.
Or you could make football affordable and accessible to watch?
Having to have three different subscriptions costing something silly like £150-200 a month and still not being able to watch all the games is unacceptable.
>The new purge is against people who try to watch [Premier League](https://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/premier-league) games, football from all over Europe and other sports and movies on the cheap.
Well it’s either that, or pay through your nose and not even get every game.
Are you fucking serious?
There’s actual violent crime regularly going unsolved, and uninvestigated.
‘We are able to deploy cutting-edge digital tactics to identify and detect people who break the law’
How?
Piracy is a service issue, the way football in this country works is ridiculous. The fact you need to be subscribed to 4+ different subscriptions.
For me it’s the fact that certain fixtures have no UK broadcast at all, whereas other countries get pretty much the full fixture set (this goes beyond the Saturday 3pm blackout). If it’s on Sky/BT/Amazon then I’ll watch it on there as a paying customer.
I feel like the Premier League haven’t really adapted to modern viewing habits. I’d imagine if they offered a streaming package where a customer could pay a fair price every month and watch all of their team’s games, it would help towards solving their problem, though I get they’re tied up with long term broadcast deals with the aforementioned companies.
Services like Steam and Spotify showed you can tackle piracy by providing a service that’s fairly priced and convenient for the consumer. I can only dream that sports take an example from this model and adapt.
Isn’t copyright violation a civil rather than criminal offence?
Really? Such a great use of police resources, how about deal with actual crime?
It’s absurd that watching every game isn’t even permitted in the UK. Tonight is our quarterfinal, but it won’t even be on television. However, the same game will be broadcast simultaneously on several channels. Makes absolutely no sense
You must break the law if you want to watch your team play but can’t get tickets to the game.
It would benefit consumers if all Premier League games were streamed, similar to how domestic championships are broadcast on BBC and Itv in the United States.
They’ve time to do this but not investigate burglary etc?
The police shouldn’t be enforcing civil copyright laws really. The distributors need better technology.
Let’s say each visit takes 1 hour and officers get paid minimum wage. That’s over £10,000 pounds of public money invested into pursuing a low impact financial crime. Howabout instead investing 1000 officer hours into investigating a high impact financial crime like Covid loan fraud? Then this action could actually yield a profit for society. Or you know focus on actually solving a violent crime for once?
Instead of weeding out the nonces and other criminals they employ they are acting as enforcement officers for corporations. Fantastic.
Cps won’t enforce this shite, they don’t have enough of a police force to pull this one off, it’s a joke
Won’t visit ya house if you been burgled though will yhey
Catalytic converter and bicycle theft are effectively legalised activities. Home burglaries, car theft are barely investigated and do not get a single digit percent of resolution.
But victimless illegal streaming, that requires a crackdown.
They won’t respond to a stolen car with a tracker accurate enough to point to which garage it’s being hidden in. I highly fucking doubt this will happen, however if it does then the tories really have Americanised our police.
Guys, don’t let this nonsense distract you from the issues they don’t want us focussed on.
Note in the article it claims 2 people were jailed for ‘watching illegal streams’ when a quick google search confirms they were actually charged with making and hosting software designed to distribute the streams.. ie they were the providers not viewers. But then that doesn’t have the same scare tactic does it?
Because it’s not like there’s much more pressing matters.
>Investigators say there is a clear link between illegal streaming services and fraud, scams and organised crime.
It truly is a slippery slope. One minute I was streaming Brighton Vs Wolves. But it wasn’t enough. Soon I’d moved onto bigger matches, Man City Vs Everton, Chelsea Vs West Ham. Title deciders. Super Sunday’s. The Birmingham Derby.
Next thing I know, I’ve moved on from watching the football, to match fixing, fraudulent betting scams, protection rackets. I’m knocking on Steve Bruce’s front door. ‘Nice place you’ve got here, it’d be an awful shame if something happened to it’
I binned my Sky Sports subscription when the Premier League told me that by changing from one subscription a month to two, I was being offered choice. No lads. Choice is where you allow BT, Sky, Amazon and whoever else to broadcast every televised game and allow me to choose who to subscribe to. What you did was try to force me to subscribe to two packages instead of just one and therefore I chose to subscribe to none. Fuck you and your greed.
Irrespective of the morality of watching illegal streams, they always try to dress this sort of crackdown as somehow directly beneficial to the public.
It’s the same with counterfeit stuff. “The public may be confused that the products they bought aren’t authentic”. If you bought a Louis Vuitton bag from a bloke flogging them around the pubs of Albufeira for €20, and you don’t know it’s knocked off, I’ve got a virtual currency named after my pet cat you may be interested it.
It is not ‘illegal’ it is unlicenced. People have failed to buy a sublicence from Broadcasters who licenced broadcast from the Sports Organisations. This is not terribly surprising given that Murdoch related organisations have spent a lot of effort, historically, telling people what “a rip of the TV Licence is”. Petards and hoists.
Perhaps the Premier League might be accused of wasting Police time and invoiced for the service as this is a civil, Copyright and Licencing matter and not something criminal. The Police have better things to do than debt collect.
Very hard to convince people the police are underfunded when they have enough resources to do this.
Ahhh, British police, going after the real criminals.
“Hello, Police? My house is getting burglarised!”
“Sorry, we don’t have anyone available right now, we will get in touch with you in 1 to 2 weeks, maybe”
“The thieves have also turned on an illegal Premier league stream on my TV!”
“We’ll be there in 2 minutes”
This story is utterly fake, someone has taken a press release and reprinted it as factual, without checking any details, for instance:
“Two individuals, Paul Faulkner and Stephen Millington, were sentenced to a total of 16 months for watching illegal streams in 2021”
Totally untrue, they were sentenced for selling access to thousands of others.
Churnalism at its worst, an organisation trying to whip up a story to scare people, and the lazy bums at the “news” papers reprint every word like its true.
I dont see a police officer visiting a single house.
Been burgled? The fuckers wont come out.
Watch illegal TV or type something angry on Twitter and you get an armed raid. Fuck this country
State enforcement of private business interests… there’s a word for the merging of those two entities i think…begins with f…
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> Police have joined forces with anti-piracy investigators from FACT in “Operation Raider” and the knock on the door is likely to come as a huge shock. They will potentially be served with notices, be ordered to stop immediately and be warned of serious consequences if they carry on watching in one of the biggest clampdowns ever on illegal streaming.
So it’s like the three strike love letter warnings you used to get from ISPs over illegally downloading, just delivered by police.
And yet , car crime and burglary not considered crimes worthy of these policy officers. Its a fk’in joke.
Enforcing copyright on behalf of businesses, pretty fucking pathetic. Shouldn’t be a criminal offence, either.
If the Police force truly existed to serve the public, they’d be taking into account that no member of the public gives a fuck about Steveo and his mates watching illegal streams, but does care about the fact they’re basically a crime number generation service when it comes to being an actual victim of crime.
There’s people getting raped and killed on the streets every day, and instead they focus on the feelings of millionaires. Interesting.
Or you could make football affordable and accessible to watch?
Having to have three different subscriptions costing something silly like £150-200 a month and still not being able to watch all the games is unacceptable.
>The new purge is against people who try to watch [Premier League](https://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/premier-league) games, football from all over Europe and other sports and movies on the cheap.
Well it’s either that, or pay through your nose and not even get every game.
Are you fucking serious?
There’s actual violent crime regularly going unsolved, and uninvestigated.
‘We are able to deploy cutting-edge digital tactics to identify and detect people who break the law’
How?
Piracy is a service issue, the way football in this country works is ridiculous. The fact you need to be subscribed to 4+ different subscriptions.
For me it’s the fact that certain fixtures have no UK broadcast at all, whereas other countries get pretty much the full fixture set (this goes beyond the Saturday 3pm blackout). If it’s on Sky/BT/Amazon then I’ll watch it on there as a paying customer.
I feel like the Premier League haven’t really adapted to modern viewing habits. I’d imagine if they offered a streaming package where a customer could pay a fair price every month and watch all of their team’s games, it would help towards solving their problem, though I get they’re tied up with long term broadcast deals with the aforementioned companies.
Services like Steam and Spotify showed you can tackle piracy by providing a service that’s fairly priced and convenient for the consumer. I can only dream that sports take an example from this model and adapt.
Isn’t copyright violation a civil rather than criminal offence?
Really? Such a great use of police resources, how about deal with actual crime?
It’s absurd that watching every game isn’t even permitted in the UK. Tonight is our quarterfinal, but it won’t even be on television. However, the same game will be broadcast simultaneously on several channels. Makes absolutely no sense
You must break the law if you want to watch your team play but can’t get tickets to the game.
It would benefit consumers if all Premier League games were streamed, similar to how domestic championships are broadcast on BBC and Itv in the United States.
They’ve time to do this but not investigate burglary etc?
The police shouldn’t be enforcing civil copyright laws really. The distributors need better technology.
Let’s say each visit takes 1 hour and officers get paid minimum wage. That’s over £10,000 pounds of public money invested into pursuing a low impact financial crime. Howabout instead investing 1000 officer hours into investigating a high impact financial crime like Covid loan fraud? Then this action could actually yield a profit for society. Or you know focus on actually solving a violent crime for once?
Instead of weeding out the nonces and other criminals they employ they are acting as enforcement officers for corporations. Fantastic.
Cps won’t enforce this shite, they don’t have enough of a police force to pull this one off, it’s a joke
Won’t visit ya house if you been burgled though will yhey
Catalytic converter and bicycle theft are effectively legalised activities. Home burglaries, car theft are barely investigated and do not get a single digit percent of resolution.
But victimless illegal streaming, that requires a crackdown.
They won’t respond to a stolen car with a tracker accurate enough to point to which garage it’s being hidden in. I highly fucking doubt this will happen, however if it does then the tories really have Americanised our police.
Guys, don’t let this nonsense distract you from the issues they don’t want us focussed on.
Note in the article it claims 2 people were jailed for ‘watching illegal streams’ when a quick google search confirms they were actually charged with making and hosting software designed to distribute the streams.. ie they were the providers not viewers. But then that doesn’t have the same scare tactic does it?
Because it’s not like there’s much more pressing matters.
>Investigators say there is a clear link between illegal streaming services and fraud, scams and organised crime.
It truly is a slippery slope. One minute I was streaming Brighton Vs Wolves. But it wasn’t enough. Soon I’d moved onto bigger matches, Man City Vs Everton, Chelsea Vs West Ham. Title deciders. Super Sunday’s. The Birmingham Derby.
Next thing I know, I’ve moved on from watching the football, to match fixing, fraudulent betting scams, protection rackets. I’m knocking on Steve Bruce’s front door. ‘Nice place you’ve got here, it’d be an awful shame if something happened to it’
I binned my Sky Sports subscription when the Premier League told me that by changing from one subscription a month to two, I was being offered choice. No lads. Choice is where you allow BT, Sky, Amazon and whoever else to broadcast every televised game and allow me to choose who to subscribe to. What you did was try to force me to subscribe to two packages instead of just one and therefore I chose to subscribe to none. Fuck you and your greed.
Irrespective of the morality of watching illegal streams, they always try to dress this sort of crackdown as somehow directly beneficial to the public.
It’s the same with counterfeit stuff. “The public may be confused that the products they bought aren’t authentic”. If you bought a Louis Vuitton bag from a bloke flogging them around the pubs of Albufeira for €20, and you don’t know it’s knocked off, I’ve got a virtual currency named after my pet cat you may be interested it.
It is not ‘illegal’ it is unlicenced. People have failed to buy a sublicence from Broadcasters who licenced broadcast from the Sports Organisations. This is not terribly surprising given that Murdoch related organisations have spent a lot of effort, historically, telling people what “a rip of the TV Licence is”. Petards and hoists.
Perhaps the Premier League might be accused of wasting Police time and invoiced for the service as this is a civil, Copyright and Licencing matter and not something criminal. The Police have better things to do than debt collect.
Very hard to convince people the police are underfunded when they have enough resources to do this.
Ahhh, British police, going after the real criminals.
“Hello, Police? My house is getting burglarised!”
“Sorry, we don’t have anyone available right now, we will get in touch with you in 1 to 2 weeks, maybe”
“The thieves have also turned on an illegal Premier league stream on my TV!”
“We’ll be there in 2 minutes”
This story is utterly fake, someone has taken a press release and reprinted it as factual, without checking any details, for instance:
“Two individuals, Paul Faulkner and Stephen Millington, were sentenced to a total of 16 months for watching illegal streams in 2021”
Totally untrue, they were sentenced for selling access to thousands of others.
Churnalism at its worst, an organisation trying to whip up a story to scare people, and the lazy bums at the “news” papers reprint every word like its true.
I dont see a police officer visiting a single house.
Been burgled? The fuckers wont come out.
Watch illegal TV or type something angry on Twitter and you get an armed raid. Fuck this country
State enforcement of private business interests… there’s a word for the merging of those two entities i think…begins with f…