If you need trigger warnings for Peter Pan of all things, I think you’re probably not ready to go to University.
No one tell them about Bambi ffs
Life is emotionally challenging
Grow up
And yet my kids saw Peter Pan in panto when they were about six, they got in just fine with it. The real question is what is wrong with University students these days that are emotionally challenged by children’s stories?
The number of people here that are falling for the deliberately cherry picked for outrage example deliberately trying to conflate the darker original story for the Disney adaptation pictured (and derivatives thereof) is astounding.
Stop failing for outrage bait and turn your attention to the government trying to limit the right to strike.
Are people actually being paid to come up with this shit? Clearly some fat needs trimming and fees reduced.
In their defence, I’ve heard the book is a lot darker than the films and pantos based on it. And has some very creepy sexual undertones. The guy who wrote it was pretty messed up from what I remember reading.
I’d have an issue if universities weren’t teaching it for that reason… But just mentioning in advance that it might be a bit fucked up doesn’t strike me as particularly harmful.
Books are supposed to be emotionally challenging, thats part of the process.
If you’re a foreign student particularly, you may not be expecting certain themes in books, and a warning beforehand isn’t terrible.
Try reading Tess of the D’Urbervilles if you really want emotionally challenging…
Crikey, it’s like the Daily Mail in here this morning.
Congrats to the journo who I imagine sent a Freedom of Information request to every university literature department in the UK, and managed to wring this “wokeness gone mad!” story out of it.
I always see these things as a good thing
It means less competition in the real world work market for the rest of us normal people
What do people have against content warnings? Like really? Some people have vulnerabilities that others don’t have, content warnings aren’t there to say don’t read this book, but brace for content that is, in this case, sexist attitudes. Bracing makes engaging easier.
Anyone tutting that you can’t even read Peter Pan without a content warning should try streaming old movies on Disney+, everything gets a content warning cos of the casual racism that flowed through older films. There’s no difference to what’s going on here, except it’s sexism not racism being advised.
We’re not going to survive the Zombie apocalypse are we?
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This seems like a bullshit story designed to trigger ‘pull yourself up by your bootstraps’ boomers lol
They be farming idiots.
No wonder I’m so screwed up, my parents not only didn’t warn me of the dangers they actually encouraged me as a small child to read it, along with Enid Blyton, A A Milne, Kenneth Grahame and many other examples of damaging literature my tender sensibilities were unknowingly exposed to. It’s been a while now but do you think I could sue Social Services for failing to protect me?
The issue here would seem to be that students’ expectations are not that a novel is likely to be ’emotionally challenging’ by default, and that the response of the university was not simply to convey that expectation.
No amount of ‘cherry picking’ can escape that conclusion.
Or is it just straight up lying, by omission or otherwise? Unless it’s something altogether like: “man arrested after looking at woman” when in reality he approached the woman and then punched her in the face. While technically true, it’s ‘a lie’ in so far as “after” does not mean “because”.
This headline is true, but bollocks. “Viewers warned TV programme might kill them”. Yeah there was a notification about strobe effects which can cause seizures which are sometimes fatal. And?
> “I am baffled by any decision to warn students away from its study.”
Except they *aren’t* warning students away.
> “This kind of mollycoddling warning … risks making the university look preposterous.”
Only if it’s misrepresented by fuckwits with an agenda, shirly?
Then I scroll down and see people appear to be nodding along with the “silly wokies” bollocks. Ugh.
“I am baffled by any decision to warn students away from its study.”
I’m baffled by a grown man thinking saying “be ready to be emotionally challenged” is warning students away from it’s study.
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“odd perspectives on gender but no objectionable material” is hardly “Warning do not read”
They’d have a conniption fit if they learned that a lot of European ’70s to ’90s youth literature was set during WWII.
Ok sweeties just a heads up that you may have to get up in the morning and face the world.
If you need a trigger warning for Peter Pan… then you likely need one for entering bars, clubs and pubs, certainly need one before you come onto Reddit.
Oh dear, those who need help with this might find my life difficult !
The initial story JM Barrie wrote that contained the story of Peter pan (Little white bird) is genuinely quite disturbing. Maim character seems to be a paedo grooming a young boy and telling the story as part of the story. Later on he took the Peter pan story and developed it as a book/play in its own right
If they are teaching Peter pan in the full context of how it was developed by the author then I kind of see the point in warning to be honest. We have warnings for the public on films that say things like contains violence, contains themes of paedophilia, why not let people know about books too. Some people prefer to be aware of these things in advance due to personal experience
Here’s an idea, the uni library can have a warning showing that some of the books have content warnings, so the people offended that content warnings exist can avoid them, and everybody else can just see the content warnings on the books and take notice if it matters to them or not if it doesn’t.
Wait till they see the sequel. Pan’s Labyrinth was terrifying.
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If you need trigger warnings for Peter Pan of all things, I think you’re probably not ready to go to University.
No one tell them about Bambi ffs
Life is emotionally challenging
Grow up
And yet my kids saw Peter Pan in panto when they were about six, they got in just fine with it. The real question is what is wrong with University students these days that are emotionally challenged by children’s stories?
The number of people here that are falling for the deliberately cherry picked for outrage example deliberately trying to conflate the darker original story for the Disney adaptation pictured (and derivatives thereof) is astounding.
Stop failing for outrage bait and turn your attention to the government trying to limit the right to strike.
Are people actually being paid to come up with this shit? Clearly some fat needs trimming and fees reduced.
In their defence, I’ve heard the book is a lot darker than the films and pantos based on it. And has some very creepy sexual undertones. The guy who wrote it was pretty messed up from what I remember reading.
I’d have an issue if universities weren’t teaching it for that reason… But just mentioning in advance that it might be a bit fucked up doesn’t strike me as particularly harmful.
Books are supposed to be emotionally challenging, thats part of the process.
If you’re a foreign student particularly, you may not be expecting certain themes in books, and a warning beforehand isn’t terrible.
Try reading Tess of the D’Urbervilles if you really want emotionally challenging…
Crikey, it’s like the Daily Mail in here this morning.
Congrats to the journo who I imagine sent a Freedom of Information request to every university literature department in the UK, and managed to wring this “wokeness gone mad!” story out of it.
I always see these things as a good thing
It means less competition in the real world work market for the rest of us normal people
What do people have against content warnings? Like really? Some people have vulnerabilities that others don’t have, content warnings aren’t there to say don’t read this book, but brace for content that is, in this case, sexist attitudes. Bracing makes engaging easier.
Anyone tutting that you can’t even read Peter Pan without a content warning should try streaming old movies on Disney+, everything gets a content warning cos of the casual racism that flowed through older films. There’s no difference to what’s going on here, except it’s sexism not racism being advised.
We’re not going to survive the Zombie apocalypse are we?
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This seems like a bullshit story designed to trigger ‘pull yourself up by your bootstraps’ boomers lol
They be farming idiots.
No wonder I’m so screwed up, my parents not only didn’t warn me of the dangers they actually encouraged me as a small child to read it, along with Enid Blyton, A A Milne, Kenneth Grahame and many other examples of damaging literature my tender sensibilities were unknowingly exposed to. It’s been a while now but do you think I could sue Social Services for failing to protect me?
The issue here would seem to be that students’ expectations are not that a novel is likely to be ’emotionally challenging’ by default, and that the response of the university was not simply to convey that expectation.
No amount of ‘cherry picking’ can escape that conclusion.
Is there something like [Betteridge’s law of headlines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines) for this BS?
Or is it just straight up lying, by omission or otherwise? Unless it’s something altogether like: “man arrested after looking at woman” when in reality he approached the woman and then punched her in the face. While technically true, it’s ‘a lie’ in so far as “after” does not mean “because”.
This headline is true, but bollocks. “Viewers warned TV programme might kill them”. Yeah there was a notification about strobe effects which can cause seizures which are sometimes fatal. And?
> “I am baffled by any decision to warn students away from its study.”
Except they *aren’t* warning students away.
> “This kind of mollycoddling warning … risks making the university look preposterous.”
Only if it’s misrepresented by fuckwits with an agenda, shirly?
Then I scroll down and see people appear to be nodding along with the “silly wokies” bollocks. Ugh.
“I am baffled by any decision to warn students away from its study.”
I’m baffled by a grown man thinking saying “be ready to be emotionally challenged” is warning students away from it’s study.
​
“odd perspectives on gender but no objectionable material” is hardly “Warning do not read”
They’d have a conniption fit if they learned that a lot of European ’70s to ’90s youth literature was set during WWII.
Ok sweeties just a heads up that you may have to get up in the morning and face the world.
If you need a trigger warning for Peter Pan… then you likely need one for entering bars, clubs and pubs, certainly need one before you come onto Reddit.
Oh dear, those who need help with this might find my life difficult !
The initial story JM Barrie wrote that contained the story of Peter pan (Little white bird) is genuinely quite disturbing. Maim character seems to be a paedo grooming a young boy and telling the story as part of the story. Later on he took the Peter pan story and developed it as a book/play in its own right
If they are teaching Peter pan in the full context of how it was developed by the author then I kind of see the point in warning to be honest. We have warnings for the public on films that say things like contains violence, contains themes of paedophilia, why not let people know about books too. Some people prefer to be aware of these things in advance due to personal experience
Here’s an idea, the uni library can have a warning showing that some of the books have content warnings, so the people offended that content warnings exist can avoid them, and everybody else can just see the content warnings on the books and take notice if it matters to them or not if it doesn’t.
Wait till they see the sequel. Pan’s Labyrinth was terrifying.