Jesus christ these people are on the ball, it only takes 6 years of politicians openly laughing about it for them to catch on.
Well if you vote for liars, then don’t expect the truth from them. You reap what you sow.
Blame squarely at the door of Farage and Bojo. The lies they told to convince these simple saps was not even that obvious to see though, but the remain campaign didn’t do enough to help people see how poor the arguments were. Immigration dominated the conversation, when it’s the economy that makes everyone feel better, or worse off in our case.
*My God. Nigel Farage? Nigel Farage? A liar and a charlatan? Nigel Farage?*
Blame is firmly at their door they need to sit in the shit they’ve caused.
I never thought that the leopards would eat ***my*** face.
How about taking some personal responsibility for your political choices?
No they let themselves be lied to as the lies appealed to their bigotry – either anti immigrant bigotry or English exceptionlism
The truth and facts were there for all to find but many chose to go with the far right narrative peddled by the sun et all and farage and his band of snake oil sales men
They knew it already, their real issue is blinkered nationalism has no real power over reality.
They still read the Daily Heil to get righteously indignant but THIS lie hit them in the pocket.
Please tell me none of these voters heard from anyone that brexit was sold on misinformation.
They’re quick on the uptake. Six years after their bigoted views left them susceptible to believe obvious lies. The lies which sent the UK down the path of destruction that we’ve just commenced. And they’ve only just twigged on. You can’t negotiate with stupid, unfortunately their lives have been ruined and will not improve within their lifetimes.
That’s because they were lied to. But what makes it worse is they wanted to be lied to and wanted to believe what they knew was lies
I am absolutely for imbeciles voting for the wrong people being financially and economically punished in every way shape or form. It was your recklessness with voting and your lack of good judgement that got us into this mess, deal with the consequences.
A campaign fronted by honest folk like… Nigel Garage, Boris Johnson and Michael Gove! Who would’ve thunk?!
A tale as old as time. Voting with reckless abandon for something that shafts other people, but then regretting it and trying to absolve all responsibility when it bites them on the arse too.
The brexit believers are rushing to the Reform party. They see them and a possible alliance with UKIP as a last chance to have their sunny white uplands dream fulfilled.
Not by everyone, 49% of the population told them nothing but the truth for years prior to the vote.
The headline does not match the article.
It’s doing it’s best to make you think that the people they asked regret Brexit, but despite the author’s best efforts, the actual responses are much more varied.
There are some who do regret Brexit, yes. But a lot of them are people who think things have got worse, not because of Brexit itself but because they feel the government has stuffed it up. There’s also people who blame Covid for the current issues.
Basically, the article is remainer fantasy wish-fulfillment: “oh, woe is me! I regret everything, we must rejoin immediately”
I lived in north Staffs and spent a great deal of time around the Derbyshire are in the years before the Brexit vote. There was a strong anti-difference vibe, be it whether you were from in the UK or from elsewhere, a pride in never having been outside of the area, a trip 15 miles to Stoke happened 4 or so times a year, let alone London which happened once in a lifetime, and a strong antipathy to education, seen as getting above yourself. Good people but very limited horizons and no ambition in general. There were exceptions of course. So much poverty and low values of society in general, including child prostitution in the heart of the Potteries and rural poverty was also common. Many of these people were unaware of the regional funds, opportunities for the young, the grants and benefits in general that EU membership brought to their districts and communities. These will never again be replaced by Westminster. To suggest that the inhabitants of these two counties were equipped to deal with the issues of leaving the EU is a travesty; the slick, lying political class that conned them and others at a similar level elsewhere in the UK are culpably criminal and should be prosecuted for the treasonous lies they thrust down the gullets of these vulnerable and lost people.
The problem is so many people in this country are just really thick.
A good chunk of my family are from Bolsover. If you imagine Brexit as a Monorail, Farage as Lyle Langley and everyone who lives there some variation of Homer Simpson, the leave vote suddenly makes a lot of sense.
Who did more damage to this country… Isis or a brexit voter?
Nothing that came to pass wasn’t told to the people. They were warned and the people warning were mocked.
Article Text:
Voters in the area of Derbyshire that decided by the largest margin to leave the European Union in 2016 say they feel lied to by those who advocated Brexit, and life in the town has got worse since the referendum. Bolsover voted against remaining in the EU by 70.8% to 29.2% on a respectable turnout of 72.3% – the eighth-highest margin in the country.
But now, national polling suggests people are regretting the momentous decision that not long ago dominated conversations between friends and families. Statista , for example, concluded in December that “51% of people in Great Britain thought that it was wrong to leave the European Union, compared with 34% who thought it was the right decision”.
Some in Bolsover seem to have revised their stance. A number of those who voted to leave in the former mining town have told Derbyshire Live they now feel they were told mistruths by those vying for people’s hearts and minds six years ago and would vote differently were they given the chance again.
Others, however, remain steadfast, suggesting present problems such as long NHS waiting times and the rapid rise in the cost of living are down to other factors such as the COVID-19 pandemic and the Government’s mishandling of Brexit rather than leaving the EU itself.
Sitting in The Courtyard Bistro on Cavendish Walk, Diane Parking, 62, who worked in social care for nine years, has become disenfranchised since voting for Brexit and thinks the sector she used to work in has borne the brunt of systemic problems.
She said: “I don’t think it’s changed, it’s got worse than what it was. I used to vote and voted Labour always – I’ve always been working class. But I don’t vote for anyone now, they’re all the same.
“I do feel sorry for a lot of old people and the nurses and carers, they just don’t get help. I worked in care for nine years with those with Alzheimer’s and dementia – for the work they do they’ve got nothing extra.”
Ms Parking added immigration was an important consideration for her in 2016. She said: “I think they [those promoting Brexit] were telling lies. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not racist but they’re fetching all these immigrants into our country, and my daughter who was born and bred here can’t get no help with a council house.”
If there were another referendum tomorrow, Ms Parking says she would not vote. She added: “I’m sorry, duck, this country has gone. Since we’ve come out it’s got worse than what it was, they’ve lied to us all along.”
Sitting next to Diane were Sue Thacker, 50, and former farmer Scott Coupe, 56. Ms Thacker is also concerned about the NHS. She said: “I know of a woman who had to wait 31 hours for an ambulance after she fell in the kitchen. With doctors, it’s also taking a week before you get in.
When asked how she had voted in 2016, she said: “Don’t ask me, I can’t remember all those years ago.” But Ms Thacker also expressed concerns about the level of immigration. She said: “We shouldn’t have it in this country, they have houses and everything paid for them.”
Mr Coupe said: “At the end of the day, the Conservatives aren’t doing anything. Load of b*******.” On immigration, he added: “There’s supposed to be someone out there stopping all this [the boats across the English channel] but they’ve done nothing. The Government sends so many thousands abroad, but what about this country?”
Wrapped up during a chilly winter’s morning in the town centre, former dinner lady and bus driver for 32 years, Margaret and Trevor Jones, aged 71 and 74, suggested the UK is not yet distant enough from the EU and other factors have exacerbated current national problems.
Mrs Jones said: “I don’t think it’s [Brexit] made any difference really with Covid coming straight after it. We’ve had so much to put up with afterwards. Brexit’s the best thing for the country but we don’t seem to have benefitted as we thought we would.
Mr Jones said: “We wanted to come out, we wanted what we used to have, we’d lost all our identity. And we’re giving money to other countries that don’t need it, it would be better spent here on the NHS.
“We’re sending millions to China whilst working people here are using food banks. You should always look after your own first. At our age it looks like we’re going back to when we were kids. We didn’t have any money and our parents didn’t have any money, no benefits like they have now.
“It’s like going back in time with the energy crisis. We didn’t have to worry about that, we had no central heating, no indoor bathrooms. I can appreciate people are having a tough time, especially nurses, but everybody’s in the same situation.”
“We’re also still under their [EU] rules. I thought when we came out we’d have our own rules, but we’re still being ruled by the EU.” Mrs Jones added: “We’re not going forwards, we’re going backwards.”
Passing down the same street not long after the Joneses were Merylin and Professor Gordon McColvin, 75 and 76, a retired teacher and industrial materials researcher. They voted to remain in 2016 and believe Brexit has unequivocally worsened the area’s fortunes.
Mrs McColvin said: “We should never have left, we should have made stronger ties, not less. When you order something, it takes three months to arrive whilst it gets through the necessary paperwork, and then you don’t want it when it comes. We’re a little island floating off into the Atlantic somewhere.”
Prof McColvin said: “It’s absolutely atrocious. We’ve gone backwards, we don’t make anything here now. We’re not big enough, it’s not the 19th century anymore – we’re not part of a huge empire now. We’re part of nothing, just an add on and it’s left us counting for nothing.”
When asked if they think voters were misinformed, Mrs McColvin exclaimed: “We were downright lied to! Things like NHS promises, our dentist had to go home and nurses had to go home who had been here for 15 or 20 years. It’s very wrong. We have to control our borders, but not in the way they did it.
Prof McColvin added: “We had an interchange of people and skills going back and forth with the EU. There was a common basis, but now we need to pay for social services with businesses that don’t exist anymore.”
As she set off to finish her shopping, Mrs McColvin looked back and concluded: “There are two lots of people in Bolsover: the people who have been here for generations who voted to leave and once who hated Margaret Thatcher – they would still hate her. They’re against anything that closes the pits down.
“I understand wholeheartedly why the area voted how it did, they really suffered. Families here [during the 1980s] were literally starving and some had no shoes. That memory lingers, and it’s going to linger for at least another couple of generations.
“Then you have those who have moved into the area who usually have a different view, we’re definitely the latter. It’s a smashing place to live but it’s running out of facilities fast.”
Two business people in Bolsover’s high street, who wished not to be named, suggested they have had a change of heart. One said: “We’re the same as everybody else. It’s not altered immigration, people are still coming across and people believed it [Brexit] would alter it but it didn’t.
“Whether we’d still be in a bad situation now I don’t know. But I voted leave and I regret it in one way – I do feel we were misled.
“I felt we were run by Brussels and we’d save a few quid. But my daughter, she was different and we almost fell out. She thought the old ones aren’t thinking about the young ones and she was probably right actually. I was hoping they’d go for a second referendum – I would have voted differently.”
But his colleague, who also voted to leave, added: “In some ways, we’re still attached [to the EU], aren’t we? COVID has caused some of the inflation – it’s not all Brexit, I believe. The result was partly due to immigration, and all the silly rules, straight bananas and all that rubbish, and the money we were paying them.”
> If there were another referendum tomorrow, Ms Parking says she would not vote. She added: “I’m sorry, duck, this country has gone. Since we’ve come out it’s got worse than what it was, they’ve lied to us all along.”
Then WTF wouldn’t you vote remain?
Christ almighty. And then there’s this clown
> Mr Jones said: “We wanted to come out, we wanted what we used to have, we’d lost all our identity. And we’re giving money to other countries that don’t need it, it would be better spent here on the NHS.
Who apparently defines his identity by how insular he can be.
They voted to cause problems for other people. Turns out they were the other people.
Love these idiots….
If you asked them, they’d claim they were “smart enough” to know what they were voting for in 2016 but they’re not smart enough to work out that they were/are being lied to.
Well, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions happening and affecting them and us.
Makes me so fucking angry.
6p on income tax for all Brexit scum now.
Sorry isn’t good enough, pay for it.
>I’m not racist but
Lol, classic.
>I don’t think it’s changed, it’s got worse
So it has changed?
>We’re sending millions to China whilst working people here are using food banks.
Millions of what?
You were told about what would happen with leave. You’ve had the benefit of a first world education system. You have a responsibility to understand the issues when you vote. Yes the Tory party lied but take responsibility for your actions and decisions. You did this, no one else.
Mr Jones aged 74, born in 1949 growing up just after the creation of the welfare state which still included opticians and dental care as free.
>“We’re sending millions to China whilst working people here are using food banks. You should always look after your own first. At our age it looks like we’re going back to when we were kids. We didn’t have any money and our parents didn’t have any money, no benefits like they have now.
Quite literally these people grew up not understanding the world they were growing up in and still don’t have a clue, despite having grown up in the strongest welfare state the UK has ever seen. We also sent a whopping £45mil to China in 2015, hardly back-breaking.
I remember watching a TV program, it was one of the big channels but I cannot remember which one.
They went to some council state in England, and they asked a person there (a woman) why she voted for Brexit. She looked to the “park” outside her house (It looked like it could be somewhere in Ukraine with overgrown grass and rusty stuff) and she said “This will get fixed now”. Somehow that person thought that her neighborhood looked like dogshit because the EU didnt want to fix it.
The way we all were manipulated by the media and politicians is fucking crazy.
Moaning about her daughter not being able to get a council house because of all the immigrants, then voting Conservative. Jesus H Christ, you voted for a party that frankly doesn’t give a shit about any socialist policies. You’re daughter isn’t getting a council house because they sold off shit-loads of capital assets including houses to prop up the economy enough to give out tax breaks.
Pretty much anyone who voted remain was telling these people that they were being lied to for years, and they refused to listen. I used to have sympathy for those who had fallen for it, but it’s too late now. They should have listened to us, and even now they most likely won’t accept that we were right. I can’t even be bothered to say “I told you so”.
People have short memories, it seems. The 48% were screaming at the top of our lungs about all the problems it was going to cause. Farmers who need foreign labour were the worst “I don’t want these foreigners over here, we want our country back, well, apart from the slave labour I hire in season to pick my fruit. They can stay”.
Tell me one good thing that came from Brexit. I will wait.
Why are they being painted as victims? These people are thinly veiled racists and objectively thick. They weren’t lied to they just didn’t listen to, or research, any aspect of Brexit that didn’t revolve around ‘keeping immigrants out’.
Fucking twats.
But when we said “you are being lied to” we were told to shut the fuck up and stop being patronising bastards because they knew exactly what they were doing and it was our fault that they had voted Brexit by being mean and saying that they shouldn’t… but they knew what they were doing ok? They knew it all.
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Jesus christ these people are on the ball, it only takes 6 years of politicians openly laughing about it for them to catch on.
Well if you vote for liars, then don’t expect the truth from them. You reap what you sow.
Blame squarely at the door of Farage and Bojo. The lies they told to convince these simple saps was not even that obvious to see though, but the remain campaign didn’t do enough to help people see how poor the arguments were. Immigration dominated the conversation, when it’s the economy that makes everyone feel better, or worse off in our case.
*My God. Nigel Farage? Nigel Farage? A liar and a charlatan? Nigel Farage?*
Blame is firmly at their door they need to sit in the shit they’ve caused.
I never thought that the leopards would eat ***my*** face.
How about taking some personal responsibility for your political choices?
No they let themselves be lied to as the lies appealed to their bigotry – either anti immigrant bigotry or English exceptionlism
The truth and facts were there for all to find but many chose to go with the far right narrative peddled by the sun et all and farage and his band of snake oil sales men
They knew it already, their real issue is blinkered nationalism has no real power over reality.
They still read the Daily Heil to get righteously indignant but THIS lie hit them in the pocket.
Please tell me none of these voters heard from anyone that brexit was sold on misinformation.
They’re quick on the uptake. Six years after their bigoted views left them susceptible to believe obvious lies. The lies which sent the UK down the path of destruction that we’ve just commenced. And they’ve only just twigged on. You can’t negotiate with stupid, unfortunately their lives have been ruined and will not improve within their lifetimes.
That’s because they were lied to. But what makes it worse is they wanted to be lied to and wanted to believe what they knew was lies
I am absolutely for imbeciles voting for the wrong people being financially and economically punished in every way shape or form. It was your recklessness with voting and your lack of good judgement that got us into this mess, deal with the consequences.
A campaign fronted by honest folk like… Nigel Garage, Boris Johnson and Michael Gove! Who would’ve thunk?!
A tale as old as time. Voting with reckless abandon for something that shafts other people, but then regretting it and trying to absolve all responsibility when it bites them on the arse too.
The brexit believers are rushing to the Reform party. They see them and a possible alliance with UKIP as a last chance to have their sunny white uplands dream fulfilled.
Not by everyone, 49% of the population told them nothing but the truth for years prior to the vote.
The headline does not match the article.
It’s doing it’s best to make you think that the people they asked regret Brexit, but despite the author’s best efforts, the actual responses are much more varied.
There are some who do regret Brexit, yes. But a lot of them are people who think things have got worse, not because of Brexit itself but because they feel the government has stuffed it up. There’s also people who blame Covid for the current issues.
Basically, the article is remainer fantasy wish-fulfillment: “oh, woe is me! I regret everything, we must rejoin immediately”
I lived in north Staffs and spent a great deal of time around the Derbyshire are in the years before the Brexit vote. There was a strong anti-difference vibe, be it whether you were from in the UK or from elsewhere, a pride in never having been outside of the area, a trip 15 miles to Stoke happened 4 or so times a year, let alone London which happened once in a lifetime, and a strong antipathy to education, seen as getting above yourself. Good people but very limited horizons and no ambition in general. There were exceptions of course. So much poverty and low values of society in general, including child prostitution in the heart of the Potteries and rural poverty was also common. Many of these people were unaware of the regional funds, opportunities for the young, the grants and benefits in general that EU membership brought to their districts and communities. These will never again be replaced by Westminster. To suggest that the inhabitants of these two counties were equipped to deal with the issues of leaving the EU is a travesty; the slick, lying political class that conned them and others at a similar level elsewhere in the UK are culpably criminal and should be prosecuted for the treasonous lies they thrust down the gullets of these vulnerable and lost people.
The problem is so many people in this country are just really thick.
A good chunk of my family are from Bolsover. If you imagine Brexit as a Monorail, Farage as Lyle Langley and everyone who lives there some variation of Homer Simpson, the leave vote suddenly makes a lot of sense.
Who did more damage to this country… Isis or a brexit voter?
Nothing that came to pass wasn’t told to the people. They were warned and the people warning were mocked.
Article Text:
Voters in the area of Derbyshire that decided by the largest margin to leave the European Union in 2016 say they feel lied to by those who advocated Brexit, and life in the town has got worse since the referendum. Bolsover voted against remaining in the EU by 70.8% to 29.2% on a respectable turnout of 72.3% – the eighth-highest margin in the country.
But now, national polling suggests people are regretting the momentous decision that not long ago dominated conversations between friends and families. Statista , for example, concluded in December that “51% of people in Great Britain thought that it was wrong to leave the European Union, compared with 34% who thought it was the right decision”.
Some in Bolsover seem to have revised their stance. A number of those who voted to leave in the former mining town have told Derbyshire Live they now feel they were told mistruths by those vying for people’s hearts and minds six years ago and would vote differently were they given the chance again.
Others, however, remain steadfast, suggesting present problems such as long NHS waiting times and the rapid rise in the cost of living are down to other factors such as the COVID-19 pandemic and the Government’s mishandling of Brexit rather than leaving the EU itself.
Sitting in The Courtyard Bistro on Cavendish Walk, Diane Parking, 62, who worked in social care for nine years, has become disenfranchised since voting for Brexit and thinks the sector she used to work in has borne the brunt of systemic problems.
She said: “I don’t think it’s changed, it’s got worse than what it was. I used to vote and voted Labour always – I’ve always been working class. But I don’t vote for anyone now, they’re all the same.
“I do feel sorry for a lot of old people and the nurses and carers, they just don’t get help. I worked in care for nine years with those with Alzheimer’s and dementia – for the work they do they’ve got nothing extra.”
Ms Parking added immigration was an important consideration for her in 2016. She said: “I think they [those promoting Brexit] were telling lies. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not racist but they’re fetching all these immigrants into our country, and my daughter who was born and bred here can’t get no help with a council house.”
If there were another referendum tomorrow, Ms Parking says she would not vote. She added: “I’m sorry, duck, this country has gone. Since we’ve come out it’s got worse than what it was, they’ve lied to us all along.”
Sitting next to Diane were Sue Thacker, 50, and former farmer Scott Coupe, 56. Ms Thacker is also concerned about the NHS. She said: “I know of a woman who had to wait 31 hours for an ambulance after she fell in the kitchen. With doctors, it’s also taking a week before you get in.
When asked how she had voted in 2016, she said: “Don’t ask me, I can’t remember all those years ago.” But Ms Thacker also expressed concerns about the level of immigration. She said: “We shouldn’t have it in this country, they have houses and everything paid for them.”
Mr Coupe said: “At the end of the day, the Conservatives aren’t doing anything. Load of b*******.” On immigration, he added: “There’s supposed to be someone out there stopping all this [the boats across the English channel] but they’ve done nothing. The Government sends so many thousands abroad, but what about this country?”
Wrapped up during a chilly winter’s morning in the town centre, former dinner lady and bus driver for 32 years, Margaret and Trevor Jones, aged 71 and 74, suggested the UK is not yet distant enough from the EU and other factors have exacerbated current national problems.
Mrs Jones said: “I don’t think it’s [Brexit] made any difference really with Covid coming straight after it. We’ve had so much to put up with afterwards. Brexit’s the best thing for the country but we don’t seem to have benefitted as we thought we would.
Mr Jones said: “We wanted to come out, we wanted what we used to have, we’d lost all our identity. And we’re giving money to other countries that don’t need it, it would be better spent here on the NHS.
“We’re sending millions to China whilst working people here are using food banks. You should always look after your own first. At our age it looks like we’re going back to when we were kids. We didn’t have any money and our parents didn’t have any money, no benefits like they have now.
“It’s like going back in time with the energy crisis. We didn’t have to worry about that, we had no central heating, no indoor bathrooms. I can appreciate people are having a tough time, especially nurses, but everybody’s in the same situation.”
“We’re also still under their [EU] rules. I thought when we came out we’d have our own rules, but we’re still being ruled by the EU.” Mrs Jones added: “We’re not going forwards, we’re going backwards.”
Passing down the same street not long after the Joneses were Merylin and Professor Gordon McColvin, 75 and 76, a retired teacher and industrial materials researcher. They voted to remain in 2016 and believe Brexit has unequivocally worsened the area’s fortunes.
Mrs McColvin said: “We should never have left, we should have made stronger ties, not less. When you order something, it takes three months to arrive whilst it gets through the necessary paperwork, and then you don’t want it when it comes. We’re a little island floating off into the Atlantic somewhere.”
Prof McColvin said: “It’s absolutely atrocious. We’ve gone backwards, we don’t make anything here now. We’re not big enough, it’s not the 19th century anymore – we’re not part of a huge empire now. We’re part of nothing, just an add on and it’s left us counting for nothing.”
When asked if they think voters were misinformed, Mrs McColvin exclaimed: “We were downright lied to! Things like NHS promises, our dentist had to go home and nurses had to go home who had been here for 15 or 20 years. It’s very wrong. We have to control our borders, but not in the way they did it.
Prof McColvin added: “We had an interchange of people and skills going back and forth with the EU. There was a common basis, but now we need to pay for social services with businesses that don’t exist anymore.”
As she set off to finish her shopping, Mrs McColvin looked back and concluded: “There are two lots of people in Bolsover: the people who have been here for generations who voted to leave and once who hated Margaret Thatcher – they would still hate her. They’re against anything that closes the pits down.
“I understand wholeheartedly why the area voted how it did, they really suffered. Families here [during the 1980s] were literally starving and some had no shoes. That memory lingers, and it’s going to linger for at least another couple of generations.
“Then you have those who have moved into the area who usually have a different view, we’re definitely the latter. It’s a smashing place to live but it’s running out of facilities fast.”
Two business people in Bolsover’s high street, who wished not to be named, suggested they have had a change of heart. One said: “We’re the same as everybody else. It’s not altered immigration, people are still coming across and people believed it [Brexit] would alter it but it didn’t.
“Whether we’d still be in a bad situation now I don’t know. But I voted leave and I regret it in one way – I do feel we were misled.
“I felt we were run by Brussels and we’d save a few quid. But my daughter, she was different and we almost fell out. She thought the old ones aren’t thinking about the young ones and she was probably right actually. I was hoping they’d go for a second referendum – I would have voted differently.”
But his colleague, who also voted to leave, added: “In some ways, we’re still attached [to the EU], aren’t we? COVID has caused some of the inflation – it’s not all Brexit, I believe. The result was partly due to immigration, and all the silly rules, straight bananas and all that rubbish, and the money we were paying them.”
> If there were another referendum tomorrow, Ms Parking says she would not vote. She added: “I’m sorry, duck, this country has gone. Since we’ve come out it’s got worse than what it was, they’ve lied to us all along.”
Then WTF wouldn’t you vote remain?
Christ almighty. And then there’s this clown
> Mr Jones said: “We wanted to come out, we wanted what we used to have, we’d lost all our identity. And we’re giving money to other countries that don’t need it, it would be better spent here on the NHS.
Who apparently defines his identity by how insular he can be.
They voted to cause problems for other people. Turns out they were the other people.
Love these idiots….
If you asked them, they’d claim they were “smart enough” to know what they were voting for in 2016 but they’re not smart enough to work out that they were/are being lied to.
Well, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions happening and affecting them and us.
Makes me so fucking angry.
6p on income tax for all Brexit scum now.
Sorry isn’t good enough, pay for it.
>I’m not racist but
Lol, classic.
>I don’t think it’s changed, it’s got worse
So it has changed?
>We’re sending millions to China whilst working people here are using food banks.
Millions of what?
You were told about what would happen with leave. You’ve had the benefit of a first world education system. You have a responsibility to understand the issues when you vote. Yes the Tory party lied but take responsibility for your actions and decisions. You did this, no one else.
Mr Jones aged 74, born in 1949 growing up just after the creation of the welfare state which still included opticians and dental care as free.
>“We’re sending millions to China whilst working people here are using food banks. You should always look after your own first. At our age it looks like we’re going back to when we were kids. We didn’t have any money and our parents didn’t have any money, no benefits like they have now.
Quite literally these people grew up not understanding the world they were growing up in and still don’t have a clue, despite having grown up in the strongest welfare state the UK has ever seen. We also sent a whopping £45mil to China in 2015, hardly back-breaking.
I remember watching a TV program, it was one of the big channels but I cannot remember which one.
They went to some council state in England, and they asked a person there (a woman) why she voted for Brexit. She looked to the “park” outside her house (It looked like it could be somewhere in Ukraine with overgrown grass and rusty stuff) and she said “This will get fixed now”. Somehow that person thought that her neighborhood looked like dogshit because the EU didnt want to fix it.
The way we all were manipulated by the media and politicians is fucking crazy.
Moaning about her daughter not being able to get a council house because of all the immigrants, then voting Conservative. Jesus H Christ, you voted for a party that frankly doesn’t give a shit about any socialist policies. You’re daughter isn’t getting a council house because they sold off shit-loads of capital assets including houses to prop up the economy enough to give out tax breaks.
Pretty much anyone who voted remain was telling these people that they were being lied to for years, and they refused to listen. I used to have sympathy for those who had fallen for it, but it’s too late now. They should have listened to us, and even now they most likely won’t accept that we were right. I can’t even be bothered to say “I told you so”.
People have short memories, it seems. The 48% were screaming at the top of our lungs about all the problems it was going to cause. Farmers who need foreign labour were the worst “I don’t want these foreigners over here, we want our country back, well, apart from the slave labour I hire in season to pick my fruit. They can stay”.
Tell me one good thing that came from Brexit. I will wait.
Why are they being painted as victims? These people are thinly veiled racists and objectively thick. They weren’t lied to they just didn’t listen to, or research, any aspect of Brexit that didn’t revolve around ‘keeping immigrants out’.
Fucking twats.
But when we said “you are being lied to” we were told to shut the fuck up and stop being patronising bastards because they knew exactly what they were doing and it was our fault that they had voted Brexit by being mean and saying that they shouldn’t… but they knew what they were doing ok? They knew it all.