This picture was taken today in the USA by a friend of mine. It made me wonder why the BAG doesn’t advertise the vaccine anymore? According to media reports, people aren’t interested anynore in refreshing their vaccination. Is the pandemic officially over?
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the pandemic is over for a year now or so.. didn’t you notice?
So you want to compare a country composed of 50 semi-autonomous entities both smaller and larger than Switzerland to Switzerland? Yeah….
Well if you have paid attention then you’d know that their product is complete trash, nothing comparable to what was promised. More insane seems that they still have the audacity to push it. To THE MAX in Your KIDS. wow… huh?
The pandemic is over. I finally forgot the virus but you had to remind me of it
If you follow the Twitter files closely, this might answer all your questions.
There’s no finance anymore to fund testing centers and promote vaccination campaigns outside the hospital.
The flu is a bigger concern right now as COVID seemed to have now a baseline of constant infections, mortality is low but our ER wards are flooded, in one region the emergency has to close at night because there’s not enough doctors to cover the shift so people will have to drive 20km in car hating megalopolis for their emergencies. Everything is fine.
Have you seen what’s going on in China? Different countries are experiencing the pandemic differently.
Bruh, has been since 24.02…. Other shit‘s more important.
Source: health minister himself told me ‚covid is over‘ on 28.02.2022 when i met him
They still advocate but they target specific groups (mainly the elderly) and this isn’t done with giant add campaigns but thru doctors and elderly homes.
The vaccine policy in switzerland also never was the same as the US one. I wasn’t allowed my second booster twice, because i catched mild covid in january and november 22. Thats afaik not a thing in the US, at least it wasn’t, they ignored people that “overcame” covid basically.
when I got my second booster the vaccination center was completely empty. i was literally the only one there. so yeah people are not interested anymore. but i had covid last year and for a week I was dead, lost a lot of sport performance thanks to it and it took a while to get it back, so i try to avoid to have that shit happen again….
It is and also the Vacs aren’t helping, the more you take the worse.
I think in Switzerland, we’ve accepted Covid as just another flu/cold variant. And so far, it seems to work just fine.
This ad is so cringe. No wonder the US still has entry mandates for non-vaccinated people in place. Not even 2G / 3G.
There will be good years and bad years, depending on dominant variants.
Fingers crossed that the huge amount of fist time infections in China won’t result in some unfavorable mutations.
I’m curious if this virus will have some impact on the food industries, as more and more people I know have reduced taste/smell.
Switzerland usually leaves vaccines recommendations to doctors. In general healthcare is seen more as a private thing. The pandemic was an exceptional event that called for exceptional actions but it’s legally not the case anymore.
Also the USA allows commercials for drugs, Switzerland doesn’t.
Most of Europe and North America have recovered from the pandemic. The virus is still around, but it is no longer a big threat, as most people have sufficient immunity to cope with it. We are now living with it, just as we are living with the flu virus.
Some tidibits:
* The virus was more deadly but less transmissible early on. During the pandemic, new variants have evolved that are more transmissible, but less deadly. These new variants have displaced the older variants.
* Until late in 2022, it was not clear, if the pandemic was really over as it usually picked up quite a bit in the cold season. The measuring stick is the amount of sick people requiring hospital treatment.
* Here in Europe, the restrictions and vaccinations were designed to limit the pandemic to a level, where hospitals could cope with the people requiring treatment. The net result is that over one and a half years most people have been in contact with the virus and have developed enough resistance to be able to cope with it.
* In China especially, the drastic no-covid policy, where entire cities were in lockdown because of a couple of cases, the population is less immune. Also the Chinese vaccine is not as efficient as the western ones. As a result, many Chinese are getting exposed now for the first time. In addition, there is the Chinese new year, where most Chinese people are travelling back home to their families. You can see this like a nationwide super-spreader event. We can expect a lot of infections in the next month. Fortunately with the newer, less deadly variants.
Our pharmacist hooked us up. He told us when he’d be getting a fresh shipment and scheduled us for it. All we had to do was provide a prescription from our doctor.
I don’t know about advertising… but I was able to get my 4th shot —with the updated strains— 4 months after I got COVID, on like at the end of Nov or so.
What I’m really surprised is about kids. I have a 3yo and they haven’t approved any vaccination, and it seems that pediatricians are really adamant of vaccinate kids. There was a post around here, or in r/Zurich, about that like a week or so ago. In the US aren’t vaccinating kids from 6 months old, but they are vaccinated them with the updated strains, while here were trying to approve the original one…
I have to recognize that Switzerland was quite relaxed about all these and it’s even more relaxed now, which doesn’t surprise me which the really lax vaccination policy they have. You have to think that the original policy for some kids diseases like varicella/chicken pox is to get them from other kids… WHAT?
Luckily our pediatrician was really proactive, because she was Italian and with a similar preventive mindset as Spanish, and she recommended us to get all the possible vaccines.
I guess that as always in Switzerland things depends on the cantons and on personal responsibility.
PS/ The problem for us is that even if you want to vaccinate your kid, to be really on the safe side of things, you can’t… there is not vaccine available just yet around here and it’s difficult to find a doctor to administer it.
Because it is no longer a pandemic but endemic. We are now stuck with it.
Saying that, I believe certain people are still underestimating how bad covid can be. For athletes for example covid is much more dangerous potentially than the flu, both in terms of doing too much too soon and long COVID. The latter is also something other viruses can cause except COVID is more aggressive in attacking the body hence long covid being a thing but long flu not really. So despite being less deadly with current variants, it is still a worse virus than the flu.
This is why I will get in the future another vaccination when we have a stable variant and a good vaccine against it. But for now I see no point, especially since I had it last October.
Out government is scared of the anti-scientific crew in this country.
First I’d like to give some personal context. I’m super pro-vaxx, I have literally every vaccine I could get my hands on, MMR, Hep-A, Hep-B, yellow fever (was travelling a lot in the tropics), the yearly flu shot, pox, porbably more I can’t think of right now and even 3x Moderna (by choice and conviction, not by mere necessity such as for travel/work). I even “pushed”/tried to convince (which I now regret) my social circles to get the shots. I have an academic background in natural sciences and I know and fully stand behind scientific progress and trust the scientific process with peer reviewed studies, clinical trials and such. I have a good understanding of how cells work and a basic understanding of how mRNA interacts with the Ribosom in the cells. This technology is great and very impressive, at least in theory.
However I will refuse to get a 4th mRNA Covid shot for at least the next 5-10 years. Why?
An effective vaccine should provide an adequate protection against infection. Except for a few exception, most people I know who had teh shot still got Covid. Me included. So in terms of effectiveness it’s “Not Passed”. Besides everyone I know, including me, had massive side-effects and symptoms after the shot/s.
The usual argument I hear to that the vaccine reduces the severity of the illness. Now this is pure propaganda as it is impossible to prove scientifically. There is no way to seriously assess if someone vaccinated who still got Covid would have had a worst, same or better “experience” without it. You just can’t prove it. You only have data for vaccinated and unvaccinated. And given the extreme randomness of symptoms and severity with this virus you can’t really compare those groups with certitude. The mutations add to the diffculties in researching the effects.
A vaccine shouldn’t have a random not measurable effect and need refreshing every 6-months or so. It should hold at least a few yeaes or for a life-time.
In 5-10 years, after more research and fine-tuning of the technology I might change my opinion, but right now, I will under no circumstances get another shot of mRNA basede vaccine. I might still accept a non-mRNA shot, though. Not sure yet, just recovered from the virus recently.
But at the end of teh day it’s a personal choice, so do what you think is right for you. Good luck 🙂
I don’t know if it’s from the BAG or canton but at least in Geneva I’ve seen a lot of adverts about the vaccine – though largely they’re specifically targeted to risk groups.
I personally doubt that commercials like this are efficient here in Switzerland!
“why is there no propaganda anymore?” should be your question. it enrages me that the US government, the same people who claimed the vaccine stops the spreading and symptoms, still does this.
We are currently having less than 10 deaths per week and it’s January. Current strains of the virus are more contagious but less deathly, as was expected.
Yes, the pandemic is over.
I feel like some people wish that Covid was still a thing here so they can push their agendas further. And I’m not an anti vaxxer at all. But why would you still care? Everything is better now so let’s keep it as it is
Okay so basically what happened is that despite the technology and education we have today the population is so stubborn and out of control that they’ve decided to officially brand Covid 19 as a common virus that’ll now be chronically part of our lives. Modern society lost to a virus similar to the flue and we’ve officially accepted it. That’s why PCR tests aren’t free or refunded by your health insurance anymore
Anecdotally the bi-valent shot didn’t stop me from catching Covid, unknowingly infecting others, and getting annoying symptoms (not just a cold). So I understand people under 50 not bothering at this point. Especially if you’re younger male, given that the myocarditis risks are real. There have been [serious papers](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2215780) claiming that chasing after quickly evolving Omicron sub-variants is a fool’s errand, and that countries should probably stop giving boosters to non-risk people.
The BAG did advertise the booster in November though. And at this point, kids had plenty of opportunities to get their two doses