If I were the SNP and I were thinking in the longrun, I would try to open up negotiations with Labour for either a coalition or a confidence and supply agreement on the condition that PR be passed. Then, when PR is enacted, coalitions are more common, and then the SNP can demand a referendum on Scottish independence as a condition for the coalition.
Why PR first? Because currently, Labour has no reason to ally with the SNP on anything because the SNP have essentially cornered themselves by being so completely anti-Tory that voting with the Tories is unthinkable, and since they never stand outside Scotland, they’ll never have power any other way without allying with Labour.
Great, so when they don’t get 50% of the vote can we please move on?
So will they be counting total votes, or just ignoring the flaws of FPTP and saying “we got all these seats. That’s a mandate for independence” ?
Benefits the union, compared to the alternative plan of dissolving scottish parliament and calling a Scottish election to do a defacto referendum.
EU citizens can’t vote in GE’s, and neither can 16/17 year olds.
Both can vote in Scottish Elections, and tend to lean towards independence quite heavily.
Was half tempted not to write this.. Never interrupt your enemy, when they’re making a mistake.
I have a feeling that once the NEC makes their decision in March Flynn’s opinion will change. I bet they choose to make Scottish Parliamentary elections their unofficial poll. It would be a bit of a risk, although younger voters might play a significant role.
It would certainly be very interesting. I think they would be wiser to wait a few years for the generation that opposes independence the most to pass on (I say that with no glee or snide) before pushing hard for another vote.
I get told by some Scottish on here the UK is anti-democratic and a dictatorship for not allowing a 2nd vote.
Yet support this….anti-democratic move. “Do as we say or we’ll do it anyway” sounds pretty facist to me but I expect nothing less from nationalists.
This is why people hate the SNP. They British Supreme Court ruled that their attempts to force a second independence vote were illegal and they refuse to abide by that law. Trying to steal the real reason for a general election is a new low. The sooner the SNP and their apologists are run out of power the better. They are a menance to society.
The SNP do seem to swing between “a vote for us is a vote for independence” and “a vote for us isnt just about independence it’s about health, education, welcoming immigrants etc” depending on whether its convenient at the time
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If I were the SNP and I were thinking in the longrun, I would try to open up negotiations with Labour for either a coalition or a confidence and supply agreement on the condition that PR be passed. Then, when PR is enacted, coalitions are more common, and then the SNP can demand a referendum on Scottish independence as a condition for the coalition.
Why PR first? Because currently, Labour has no reason to ally with the SNP on anything because the SNP have essentially cornered themselves by being so completely anti-Tory that voting with the Tories is unthinkable, and since they never stand outside Scotland, they’ll never have power any other way without allying with Labour.
Great, so when they don’t get 50% of the vote can we please move on?
So will they be counting total votes, or just ignoring the flaws of FPTP and saying “we got all these seats. That’s a mandate for independence” ?
Benefits the union, compared to the alternative plan of dissolving scottish parliament and calling a Scottish election to do a defacto referendum.
EU citizens can’t vote in GE’s, and neither can 16/17 year olds.
Both can vote in Scottish Elections, and tend to lean towards independence quite heavily.
Was half tempted not to write this.. Never interrupt your enemy, when they’re making a mistake.
I have a feeling that once the NEC makes their decision in March Flynn’s opinion will change. I bet they choose to make Scottish Parliamentary elections their unofficial poll. It would be a bit of a risk, although younger voters might play a significant role.
It would certainly be very interesting. I think they would be wiser to wait a few years for the generation that opposes independence the most to pass on (I say that with no glee or snide) before pushing hard for another vote.
I get told by some Scottish on here the UK is anti-democratic and a dictatorship for not allowing a 2nd vote.
Yet support this….anti-democratic move. “Do as we say or we’ll do it anyway” sounds pretty facist to me but I expect nothing less from nationalists.
This is why people hate the SNP. They British Supreme Court ruled that their attempts to force a second independence vote were illegal and they refuse to abide by that law. Trying to steal the real reason for a general election is a new low. The sooner the SNP and their apologists are run out of power the better. They are a menance to society.
The SNP do seem to swing between “a vote for us is a vote for independence” and “a vote for us isnt just about independence it’s about health, education, welcoming immigrants etc” depending on whether its convenient at the time