The government only cares about pensioners and fucks over Young people
I’ll take my labour elsewhere thank you very much
I wish me and (my now) wife had done it years ago. We weren’t in any great position financially but I had just got myself a professional qualification and had a lot of hope for the future. That was 12 years ago and since the I have worked hard and long hours on low pay. I’m the irony is that I’m good at what I do but the pay is poor in my profession and the cost of living in the UK has been dire for a lot longer than the last year or so.
I have friends who moved to China and Canada and Germany 8 years ago and they have all live fabulous lives and made a good living for themselves while exploring the world. Meanwhile british people fester in a toxic environment.
Emigrate. Give yourself a chance to live and experience the world 🌎
Why do people just presume its simple to move to another country? we aren’t in the EU anymore and most countries have strict immigration rules, unless you’re highly skilled or have a partner from the country, its not happening
I had two offers in my 20s. In my 40s they’re on my very small lists of lifes regrets.
Having been lucky enough to travel I have seen world leading. Leading us through post-industrial economic changes via short term tax cuts and selling of family jewels, outsourcing everything, has 0left us with even less social mobility than ever.
The worst satirists may just calling us all free range slaves.
Anyway I’m off to the outdoors to remember the real world..
But where to? One just can’t up and leave without skills and a visa. The right to live and work in twenty something countries has been given up.
I’m 29 years old (30 next week) I can’t remember the last time I had hope for the future.
Big YES . Give it a go, my lad went to Australia on a 2 year working holiday visa at 21 he’s a skilled electrician , we are still waiting for him to come home 9 years later . Fantastic opportunity’s for youngsters out in that country .
I am British, but moved to Europe many years ago. My children were born and raised here, and how glad I am. They have had a great education ( in four countries), and made good lives for themselves. It saddens me a little, that their ties with the UK are fraying, as with only distant relatives left now, there is little reason to return, but, when I compare the quality of life we all have here, well, I cannot help but be thankful we never returned. Their education ( including Masters) was free, or the fees were truly minimal, and accommodation was heavily subsidized. No student debt at all. Health care is prompt and efficient, transport costs very affordable, and in everyday life, things work, in a way they no longer seem to in the UK. On my increasingly-rare trips back, I am dismayed by the poor infrastructure, and downright shabbiness of the country, so much so, that I find myself embarrassed when accompanied by the foreign partners of my children. Everything is cut to the bone, whether it is a complete absence of manned ticket offices on the tube ( never known such a thing in any other capital city ), or the inability to actually speak to a real person for any administrative stuff. I suppose it seems pretty normal, unless you know a different way of life …
If I could I would, I honestly don’t think I can give myself a good future here. Hopefully UK rejoins the EU and I can leave.
Yes, the uk is a shambles with a declining standard of living.
If all the good people leave the UK, nothing will improve sadly. Things probably won’t get better anyway, but it definitely won’t improve if everyone up and leaves.
There are some fantastic countries to move to. Life in Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Ireland are all great places to live.
However
Think about the future. Emigrating can be hard on a close family
I’ve got a few more years of cheap mortgage due to fixing when it was at its lowest last year. I’ll make use of that, but then I’m out of here to do software engineering elsewhere. Will probably try for Norway or something, I’m sure I will find a job somewhere.
Everything is going downhill and I don’t see it improving anytime soon.
There aren’t any English speaking countries that I find appealing
If you have the skills to get a job elsewhere I don’t see why you shouldn’t get out of this sinking ship while you still can.
I emigrated seven years ago at 23 – every year I said I’d come back but it became less and less likely and I now can say for certain i’ll only be coming back as a holiday-maker. Canada is going through it’s own challenges for sure when it comes to housing, cost of living etc., but I’ve had so many more opportunities here than my mates back home. For, example, I’ve been able to buy a century home in the downtown of one of Canadas fastest growing cities for the price of a flat in London, and our wages are far better here. I work a mid-level manager role in local government and earn about 68,000GPB/annum (for a role that would pay about 36,000GPB/annum in a UK council), plus comprehensive benefits and a defined benefit pension of 50% of my highest 5 years salary payable at age 50. It’s not like my work is an exception either- I have a mate thinking of moving here to teach as he earns 31,000 GPB as a teacher in the UK and the provincial average wage for teachers here (excluding management) is 64,000 GBP
Do I miss the UK? Hugely, I miss family, our strange culture, friends, football, the history, proper pubs and heritage and our natural beauty, but I just can’t see a way to square that with the UK’s challenges. It helps that I can sponsor my parents to come and live here when they retire, which they intend on doing. I think any young person who has the chance should try to get overseas – worst case scenario they just come back, best case they may find the grass is greener.
EDIT: If you are 18 to 30 you can get a 2 year IEC working holiday visa which costs very little and has few requirements (basically a thousand quid in your pocket and a clean criminal record). If you come and like it, anyone who has lived in Canada can apply for permanent residency after 2 years, followed by citizenship after 5. This makes it one of the most straightfoward routes to emigrating and gets much harder after 30, when you would need to emigrate as a skilled worker.
I emigrated to Canada when I was 25 and I have zero regrets. Of course I miss my family but my way of life out here is way better than it would have been back home.
A lot of Brits from my uni already have plans to emigrate after graduation this summer.
Majority are going to other Anglo-sphere countries namely Australia and Canada but one is also going to the US. I’m also going to emigrate as soon as I graduate too.
One of the most utterly screwed up and vindictive things about Brexit is how much it has thwarted the ability of many young people to be able to live or work abroad. Voted for by people who have had decades of these opportunities.
Why on earth would anybody below 30 stay in a country that doesn’t give a fuck about them?
I may as well be somewhere else that doesn’t give a fuck about me and at least have sun.
I have two grown up sons. Youngest has moved to Sweden, better facilities, houses at affordable prices, and well paid work.
Oldest moved his family to South Wales. He and his partner have two boys under the age of 5. Better schools, affordable housing, and easy access to NHS and doctors. They both work from home.
If I were starting my adult life, I would turn my back on the UK. The Tories have shit on the younger generation.
I have spent most of the last 50 years living and working abroad. My kids are making plans to leave the UK after their degrees. I’m encouraging them. It would be a shame for them to miss out on the amazing opportunities I have had in life by staying here.
UK is a sinking ship and given the right opportunity I would be gone!
I moved out to the Pacific Northwest in 2018 in a direct response to Brexit, best decision of my life. My quality of life out here is far nicer in one of the most beautiful places in the world. I’d never give this up, never.
It’s been rough on my family but they refuse to come out and visit, I’ve come back to the UK to visit several time since moving out there and it’s just been depressing.
Honestly, more young people should try to escape the UK. Still feeling fairly angry about Brexit, and the barriers that it’s created for movement in the EU, but I can’t imagine how the younger folks feel now that opportunity has been ripped from them before they even had a chance to try.
We moved away several times since 2010, and left permanently in 2016. After a few years in the EU we decided to settle in Canada and life is far better than anywhere we’ve lived. CoL is higher, but salaries are decent, and having lived in London for many years, it’s hard to find Toronto & GTA that expensive in comparison.
My hope is that young people take advantage of working holiday visas, study abroad and programs such as Canada’s express entry. Take your skills and lives elsewhere, the UK doesn’t care about you.
Moved last year aged 25 from London (born and raised) to Copenhagen. Being young in Denmark feels so much more optimistic. If you work in a sector that has demand in Europe or overseas I would recommend going for it. Even if you return to the UK, learning a language and getting to know a different way of life is incredibly beneficial.
Myself (UK) and my wife (US) are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place there.
The ultimate goal is to now get out of the UK and move to Canada as soon as physically possible. 🤷
Seriously, living in the UK, the only benefits we really see are the NHS (which is not really a benefit anymore thanks the Tories) and the lack of fun violence. Living in the UK is absolutely depressing, and it really hits me that I’ve been able to get a nice new job with a reasonable pay and… we’re still not able to put away money realistically. And every 2.5 years, we have to fork out £3500 just for my wife to remain here. That money could easily have been saved to become a deposit for something like a house, instead, it’s just for her to live here with me, her husband.
And in exchange for the dubious privilege of living in the UK, we get…tiny mouldy homes, political uncertainty, and gradual erosion of our rights. Or rather, my rights, since as a foreigner, she’s utterly fucked as far as that goes.
As soon as we can leave, we will. It’s just depressing living here, with no hope in sight. And the US is a petrifying choice if you want to have a family. 😞
The UK is depressing as shit. Nothing in the future to look forward to. The Tories have poured misery all over the country.
If people are aware enough to decide they want to leave, they are exactly the people we need to keep!
I have rallied against boomers, and to a lesser extent gen x, about their collective failure to stem the wave of decline this country has seen in the last 20 years, but how would I be any better if I were to leave?
Don’t get me wrong I have definitely thought about it, but I have concluded it is my civic duty to my country, family, freinds and the next generations to do what I can to remove this current corrupt government and work to vetter future.
Most of the people of the UK are smart and driven, and with a focus on;
Improving education,
Rejoining the Eu,
Providing relief for the average worker,
And, tackling the housing mess.
This country can begin to resemble the one the name Great Britain conjures up!
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The government only cares about pensioners and fucks over Young people
I’ll take my labour elsewhere thank you very much
I wish me and (my now) wife had done it years ago. We weren’t in any great position financially but I had just got myself a professional qualification and had a lot of hope for the future. That was 12 years ago and since the I have worked hard and long hours on low pay. I’m the irony is that I’m good at what I do but the pay is poor in my profession and the cost of living in the UK has been dire for a lot longer than the last year or so.
I have friends who moved to China and Canada and Germany 8 years ago and they have all live fabulous lives and made a good living for themselves while exploring the world. Meanwhile british people fester in a toxic environment.
Emigrate. Give yourself a chance to live and experience the world 🌎
Why do people just presume its simple to move to another country? we aren’t in the EU anymore and most countries have strict immigration rules, unless you’re highly skilled or have a partner from the country, its not happening
I had two offers in my 20s. In my 40s they’re on my very small lists of lifes regrets.
Having been lucky enough to travel I have seen world leading. Leading us through post-industrial economic changes via short term tax cuts and selling of family jewels, outsourcing everything, has 0left us with even less social mobility than ever.
The worst satirists may just calling us all free range slaves.
Anyway I’m off to the outdoors to remember the real world..
But where to? One just can’t up and leave without skills and a visa. The right to live and work in twenty something countries has been given up.
I’m 29 years old (30 next week) I can’t remember the last time I had hope for the future.
Big YES . Give it a go, my lad went to Australia on a 2 year working holiday visa at 21 he’s a skilled electrician , we are still waiting for him to come home 9 years later . Fantastic opportunity’s for youngsters out in that country .
I am British, but moved to Europe many years ago. My children were born and raised here, and how glad I am. They have had a great education ( in four countries), and made good lives for themselves. It saddens me a little, that their ties with the UK are fraying, as with only distant relatives left now, there is little reason to return, but, when I compare the quality of life we all have here, well, I cannot help but be thankful we never returned. Their education ( including Masters) was free, or the fees were truly minimal, and accommodation was heavily subsidized. No student debt at all. Health care is prompt and efficient, transport costs very affordable, and in everyday life, things work, in a way they no longer seem to in the UK. On my increasingly-rare trips back, I am dismayed by the poor infrastructure, and downright shabbiness of the country, so much so, that I find myself embarrassed when accompanied by the foreign partners of my children. Everything is cut to the bone, whether it is a complete absence of manned ticket offices on the tube ( never known such a thing in any other capital city ), or the inability to actually speak to a real person for any administrative stuff. I suppose it seems pretty normal, unless you know a different way of life …
If I could I would, I honestly don’t think I can give myself a good future here. Hopefully UK rejoins the EU and I can leave.
Yes, the uk is a shambles with a declining standard of living.
If all the good people leave the UK, nothing will improve sadly. Things probably won’t get better anyway, but it definitely won’t improve if everyone up and leaves.
There are some fantastic countries to move to. Life in Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Ireland are all great places to live.
However
Think about the future. Emigrating can be hard on a close family
I’ve got a few more years of cheap mortgage due to fixing when it was at its lowest last year. I’ll make use of that, but then I’m out of here to do software engineering elsewhere. Will probably try for Norway or something, I’m sure I will find a job somewhere.
Everything is going downhill and I don’t see it improving anytime soon.
There aren’t any English speaking countries that I find appealing
If you have the skills to get a job elsewhere I don’t see why you shouldn’t get out of this sinking ship while you still can.
I emigrated seven years ago at 23 – every year I said I’d come back but it became less and less likely and I now can say for certain i’ll only be coming back as a holiday-maker. Canada is going through it’s own challenges for sure when it comes to housing, cost of living etc., but I’ve had so many more opportunities here than my mates back home. For, example, I’ve been able to buy a century home in the downtown of one of Canadas fastest growing cities for the price of a flat in London, and our wages are far better here. I work a mid-level manager role in local government and earn about 68,000GPB/annum (for a role that would pay about 36,000GPB/annum in a UK council), plus comprehensive benefits and a defined benefit pension of 50% of my highest 5 years salary payable at age 50. It’s not like my work is an exception either- I have a mate thinking of moving here to teach as he earns 31,000 GPB as a teacher in the UK and the provincial average wage for teachers here (excluding management) is 64,000 GBP
Do I miss the UK? Hugely, I miss family, our strange culture, friends, football, the history, proper pubs and heritage and our natural beauty, but I just can’t see a way to square that with the UK’s challenges. It helps that I can sponsor my parents to come and live here when they retire, which they intend on doing. I think any young person who has the chance should try to get overseas – worst case scenario they just come back, best case they may find the grass is greener.
EDIT: If you are 18 to 30 you can get a 2 year IEC working holiday visa which costs very little and has few requirements (basically a thousand quid in your pocket and a clean criminal record). If you come and like it, anyone who has lived in Canada can apply for permanent residency after 2 years, followed by citizenship after 5. This makes it one of the most straightfoward routes to emigrating and gets much harder after 30, when you would need to emigrate as a skilled worker.
I emigrated to Canada when I was 25 and I have zero regrets. Of course I miss my family but my way of life out here is way better than it would have been back home.
A lot of Brits from my uni already have plans to emigrate after graduation this summer.
Majority are going to other Anglo-sphere countries namely Australia and Canada but one is also going to the US. I’m also going to emigrate as soon as I graduate too.
One of the most utterly screwed up and vindictive things about Brexit is how much it has thwarted the ability of many young people to be able to live or work abroad. Voted for by people who have had decades of these opportunities.
Why on earth would anybody below 30 stay in a country that doesn’t give a fuck about them?
I may as well be somewhere else that doesn’t give a fuck about me and at least have sun.
I have two grown up sons. Youngest has moved to Sweden, better facilities, houses at affordable prices, and well paid work.
Oldest moved his family to South Wales. He and his partner have two boys under the age of 5. Better schools, affordable housing, and easy access to NHS and doctors. They both work from home.
If I were starting my adult life, I would turn my back on the UK. The Tories have shit on the younger generation.
I have spent most of the last 50 years living and working abroad. My kids are making plans to leave the UK after their degrees. I’m encouraging them. It would be a shame for them to miss out on the amazing opportunities I have had in life by staying here.
UK is a sinking ship and given the right opportunity I would be gone!
I moved out to the Pacific Northwest in 2018 in a direct response to Brexit, best decision of my life. My quality of life out here is far nicer in one of the most beautiful places in the world. I’d never give this up, never.
It’s been rough on my family but they refuse to come out and visit, I’ve come back to the UK to visit several time since moving out there and it’s just been depressing.
Honestly, more young people should try to escape the UK. Still feeling fairly angry about Brexit, and the barriers that it’s created for movement in the EU, but I can’t imagine how the younger folks feel now that opportunity has been ripped from them before they even had a chance to try.
We moved away several times since 2010, and left permanently in 2016. After a few years in the EU we decided to settle in Canada and life is far better than anywhere we’ve lived. CoL is higher, but salaries are decent, and having lived in London for many years, it’s hard to find Toronto & GTA that expensive in comparison.
My hope is that young people take advantage of working holiday visas, study abroad and programs such as Canada’s express entry. Take your skills and lives elsewhere, the UK doesn’t care about you.
Moved last year aged 25 from London (born and raised) to Copenhagen. Being young in Denmark feels so much more optimistic. If you work in a sector that has demand in Europe or overseas I would recommend going for it. Even if you return to the UK, learning a language and getting to know a different way of life is incredibly beneficial.
Myself (UK) and my wife (US) are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place there.
The ultimate goal is to now get out of the UK and move to Canada as soon as physically possible. 🤷
Seriously, living in the UK, the only benefits we really see are the NHS (which is not really a benefit anymore thanks the Tories) and the lack of fun violence. Living in the UK is absolutely depressing, and it really hits me that I’ve been able to get a nice new job with a reasonable pay and… we’re still not able to put away money realistically. And every 2.5 years, we have to fork out £3500 just for my wife to remain here. That money could easily have been saved to become a deposit for something like a house, instead, it’s just for her to live here with me, her husband.
And in exchange for the dubious privilege of living in the UK, we get…tiny mouldy homes, political uncertainty, and gradual erosion of our rights. Or rather, my rights, since as a foreigner, she’s utterly fucked as far as that goes.
As soon as we can leave, we will. It’s just depressing living here, with no hope in sight. And the US is a petrifying choice if you want to have a family. 😞
The UK is depressing as shit. Nothing in the future to look forward to. The Tories have poured misery all over the country.
If people are aware enough to decide they want to leave, they are exactly the people we need to keep!
I have rallied against boomers, and to a lesser extent gen x, about their collective failure to stem the wave of decline this country has seen in the last 20 years, but how would I be any better if I were to leave?
Don’t get me wrong I have definitely thought about it, but I have concluded it is my civic duty to my country, family, freinds and the next generations to do what I can to remove this current corrupt government and work to vetter future.
Most of the people of the UK are smart and driven, and with a focus on;
Improving education,
Rejoining the Eu,
Providing relief for the average worker,
And, tackling the housing mess.
This country can begin to resemble the one the name Great Britain conjures up!