Reads like the dogs were freaking out due to being tangled. Unfortunately dogs don’t always react rationally when they feel “cornered” like that.
What an absolute tragedy.
> She was reportedly walking up to seven dogs at the time and was attempting to wrangle the animals after one lunged at a woman and her smaller dog who were also in the park.
> “Most of them may have been still on their leads,’ one source told the Daily Mail.
> ‘They were tangled round her, meaning she couldn’t stand. It was impossible for them to get away, so in their frenzy they just went for what was in front of them.’
Horrendous – so they just panicked.
I don’t think it’s really possible to safely walk seven dogs on leads.
Dachshunds are the one dog that scarred me. Got a nasty bite on them, as I can show on my lower leg! Poodles can be nippy too. On the other side of the scale, I had a Rottweiler that was terrified of his own shadow and you would see him grinning away looking for attention, especially off kids…much to the horror of their parents who would be preparing to heroically intervene.
It’s not the usual attack you read about, but let’s remember most these breeds were originally bred for hunting
Leonbergers are known as being gentle giants. However, as I tried to say when this originally happened, if we want to go down the rabbit hole of banning breeds rather than bad owners, then any giant breed should be on the list. I own a Bernese, they are big fuckers and if he turned, would kill a lot easier than a Dachshund. He was aggressive/reactive with humans despite his breed being traditionally aloof. However, with training he has become a gentle part of our family. Any dog can become a dangerous breed, go and look at the stats for Canada, huskies and German shepherds dominate their death rates, not staffs, yet we don’t have as high rates of German shepherds and huskies on our fatal rates here. Bad owners sure will gravitate to whatever dog they perceive as being easy to train to be vicious/cheap. But if Huskies became cheaper, I’m sure they would become a status dog.
The common factor, is bad owners. Whoever thinks that they can control seven dogs on leads is clearly not suitable to be in control of any animal that can potentially turn and kill.
Said like a true dog owner.
Not true, certain dogs are bred in certain ways for certain natural characteristics long bred into their characteristics which is why you don’t see poodles rounding up farmers sheep nor dachshund’s as water rescue dogs or Rottweilers as guide dogs. You may want to look into selective breeding. Also of interest to you would be Tilikum the orca who’s lineage all killed or tried to kill their trainers.
In this case we don’t know what the other dogs are yet, seeing as 10/17 (69%) of the previous deaths by dogs in the last 3 years were either Bully XL or American bulldogs, then I wouldn’t be surprised to hear there was one in this pack too.
Of interest to you also may be that the dangerous dogs act is outdated because they use legislation from 1977 to identify what a dangerous dog actually is, this needs updating given all the kids killed and adults alike the last few years with nutters buying their status dogs.
Nice people buy nice dogs typically and with you having a Bernese I suspect you are (if you had a Bully xl, I’d say you likely weren’t) but the typical nonsense of “it’s the deed not the breed” is rubbish, tell that to people buying a specific breed for a specific task next time they want a dog that’s inclined to it’s natural inbred behaviour.
This is what happens when you worship dogs in this country. Some people like their dogs more than their kids it’s hilarious
> several species of dog
The daily mail really is utter trash. Where do they hire these moron journalists from.
When this story first broke, the threads on here were chocabloc with people saying the dogs were definitely bullys of some sort. Turns out there wasn’t a single one there, just sausage dogs and a big cross of a newfoundland and a Bernard.
I don’t get dog walkers. I thought one for the main pleasures of owning a dog is the walks. If you can’t walk your own dog, you shouldn’t consider owning one. Taking them for exercise is part of the responsibility of ownership. Get a cat, they’re self-walking.
It’s crazy that we can all own animals as dangerous as dogs without having to have a license or something. I have a dog which I sometimes regret getting, we did a bit of work with a trainer in the beginning but I don’t know what I’m doing sometimes. No way should even an experienced dog walker have a dozen dogs at once.
It would only take one panicked dog and one unlucky bite to sever an artery.
But having so many dogs increases the likelihood of creating panic if things get out of hand and decreases the likelihood of controlling them.
There was an incident near us last week where a dog walker also had eight dogs and couldn’t control them all. Two attacked another walker’s little dog, it panicked and ran off, only to be killed on a nearby road.
Perhaps it is time for legal limits to be placed on the number of dogs any individual can have under their control in a public place?
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Dachshunds?
Did the woman die of fatal bites to the ankles?
Reads like the dogs were freaking out due to being tangled. Unfortunately dogs don’t always react rationally when they feel “cornered” like that.
What an absolute tragedy.
> She was reportedly walking up to seven dogs at the time and was attempting to wrangle the animals after one lunged at a woman and her smaller dog who were also in the park.
> “Most of them may have been still on their leads,’ one source told the Daily Mail.
> ‘They were tangled round her, meaning she couldn’t stand. It was impossible for them to get away, so in their frenzy they just went for what was in front of them.’
Horrendous – so they just panicked.
I don’t think it’s really possible to safely walk seven dogs on leads.
Dachshunds are the one dog that scarred me. Got a nasty bite on them, as I can show on my lower leg! Poodles can be nippy too. On the other side of the scale, I had a Rottweiler that was terrified of his own shadow and you would see him grinning away looking for attention, especially off kids…much to the horror of their parents who would be preparing to heroically intervene.
It’s not the usual attack you read about, but let’s remember most these breeds were originally bred for hunting
Leonbergers are known as being gentle giants. However, as I tried to say when this originally happened, if we want to go down the rabbit hole of banning breeds rather than bad owners, then any giant breed should be on the list. I own a Bernese, they are big fuckers and if he turned, would kill a lot easier than a Dachshund. He was aggressive/reactive with humans despite his breed being traditionally aloof. However, with training he has become a gentle part of our family. Any dog can become a dangerous breed, go and look at the stats for Canada, huskies and German shepherds dominate their death rates, not staffs, yet we don’t have as high rates of German shepherds and huskies on our fatal rates here. Bad owners sure will gravitate to whatever dog they perceive as being easy to train to be vicious/cheap. But if Huskies became cheaper, I’m sure they would become a status dog.
The common factor, is bad owners. Whoever thinks that they can control seven dogs on leads is clearly not suitable to be in control of any animal that can potentially turn and kill.
Said like a true dog owner.
Not true, certain dogs are bred in certain ways for certain natural characteristics long bred into their characteristics which is why you don’t see poodles rounding up farmers sheep nor dachshund’s as water rescue dogs or Rottweilers as guide dogs. You may want to look into selective breeding. Also of interest to you would be Tilikum the orca who’s lineage all killed or tried to kill their trainers.
In this case we don’t know what the other dogs are yet, seeing as 10/17 (69%) of the previous deaths by dogs in the last 3 years were either Bully XL or American bulldogs, then I wouldn’t be surprised to hear there was one in this pack too.
Of interest to you also may be that the dangerous dogs act is outdated because they use legislation from 1977 to identify what a dangerous dog actually is, this needs updating given all the kids killed and adults alike the last few years with nutters buying their status dogs.
Nice people buy nice dogs typically and with you having a Bernese I suspect you are (if you had a Bully xl, I’d say you likely weren’t) but the typical nonsense of “it’s the deed not the breed” is rubbish, tell that to people buying a specific breed for a specific task next time they want a dog that’s inclined to it’s natural inbred behaviour.
This is what happens when you worship dogs in this country. Some people like their dogs more than their kids it’s hilarious
> several species of dog
The daily mail really is utter trash. Where do they hire these moron journalists from.
When this story first broke, the threads on here were chocabloc with people saying the dogs were definitely bullys of some sort. Turns out there wasn’t a single one there, just sausage dogs and a big cross of a newfoundland and a Bernard.
I don’t get dog walkers. I thought one for the main pleasures of owning a dog is the walks. If you can’t walk your own dog, you shouldn’t consider owning one. Taking them for exercise is part of the responsibility of ownership. Get a cat, they’re self-walking.
It’s crazy that we can all own animals as dangerous as dogs without having to have a license or something. I have a dog which I sometimes regret getting, we did a bit of work with a trainer in the beginning but I don’t know what I’m doing sometimes. No way should even an experienced dog walker have a dozen dogs at once.
It would only take one panicked dog and one unlucky bite to sever an artery.
But having so many dogs increases the likelihood of creating panic if things get out of hand and decreases the likelihood of controlling them.
There was an incident near us last week where a dog walker also had eight dogs and couldn’t control them all. Two attacked another walker’s little dog, it panicked and ran off, only to be killed on a nearby road.
Perhaps it is time for legal limits to be placed on the number of dogs any individual can have under their control in a public place?