I know it’s not necessarily about Ireland but surely we can talk about our neighbors.
UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak on Twitter:
>Before Christmas I promised to better support law enforcement to stop disruptive protests.
>Today, this government has delivered on that promise.
>https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-takes-action-to-stop-disruptive-protests
(https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1615019189902757888?t=URIJZKNw0WzFCVPoIZNGgA)
Does this not scare the absolute shit out of any of you’s? This is a fucking dodgy slippery slope especially with their economy tanking. They’re gonna be rioting like France.
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Cannot fathom why more people arent scared of this. Its hugely concerning.
Tories see protest as a vehicle of the left. They want to ban it entirely and any kind of dissent.
If you watched the Covid protests in London you’d already see in the UK their crowd control is quite a bit more heavy handed than here
Because they’re a bunch of wankers and want to live in their own echo-chamber and think everything is hunky-dory.
It’s typical of the tories and extremely dodgy
FG probably taking notes as we speak. They seem to like to copy the Tories.
They’d rather return it back to the 1800/1900’s when it was a them and us “the sewer rats” society.
I’ve tried talking to people about this (NI here) fact of the matter is people do not care/ do not grasp just how messed up this is.
It’s over used, it’s screamed by every nutjob who disagrees with the government but.. it really is getting a bit 1984ish
Banning protesting, cracking down on strikes, allowing facial recognition tech to be used for police purposes (even though its shite) extremely vague hate speech laws, and oh yeah the whole anti privacy crap that’s being quietly but forcefully pushed.. not to mention GCHQ being part of the prism program and literally scanning the worlds Internet traffic from undersea cables.
But hey Harry said something dumb so let’s talk about that.
Because decent, middle class Tory voters don’t do anything as rude or undignified as ‘protest’. That’s for ‘chavs’ or the French
There’s too much power in London and not enough attention given to the rest of the UK it’s gunna cause serious division.
*”A tigers is at it’s most dangerous when it senses it’s end”*
England is not doing to great, it’s power is fading and it’s fading fast. Fear of change is causing this I feel, that fear seems to be locked in, there is also this I saw today, [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/16/rishi-sunak-blocks-scotlands-gender-recognition-legislation](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/16/rishi-sunak-blocks-scotlands-gender-recognition-legislation)
Self determination isn’t something Westminster likes for it’s serfs.
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I worry for nations in the proximity of England, not really known for playing a clean and honest game.
So for me fear of change, fear of the new coming along and doing away with the old. Doubling down on being oppressive will only lead to pain in the future.
The UK has been slowly slipping towards becoming a police state for years. Its becoming the country that Donald Trump wanted America to be.
It isn’t just the enforcement end either, they’ve all but gutted financial aid. If you’re charged and can’t afford a barrister, the wait for a trial is about three years now. The next slippery step will be to remand everyone before trial like they do in the US. Years in prison before trial. No more “innocent until proven guilty”. And don’t think they can’t. The H blocks proved that it’s legal under UK law and now that the EU isn’t there to stop them…
The Secret Barrister on Twitter has been warning about this for years, but nobody took him seriously.
I live in the UK and have done quite awhile.
This is a) the Brits being at it, as per usual, though in this instance it’s just their government, but they did vote for them overwhelmingly so you get what you ask for.
And b) much like the Irish, I don’t see there being much of a public reaction in regards to this outside of Twitter comments, the odd public statement from Labour leaders, and so on, but no actual response in way of a protest or anything like that.
Basically in case you haven’t noticed there has been a rise in populism and authoritism in the UK. You see the far right ideas that you hear them spew don’t work in real life and generally people don’t listen. So they make laws instead to try and control the people.
The Tories essentially can’t/don’t want to show any leniency to any unions. This means they will strike for better pay and working conditions. The Tories are simply trying to ban striking so the slaves with jobs keep working. Over there you are seeing nurses leaving to go work in Aldi because the conditions are better.
Classic Tory scumbags, fucking over all the working people so they can funnell money to the rich.
They were talking about it last year and everyone was like they’re not going to do that, and some were like it will stop the woke.
people don’t understand the UK since Brexit has completely been overhauled, the media in the UK has been bought out and become more misinformation than i’ve ever seen, the tories replaced the head of the BBC with someone who does there news, and is covering up rapists, Journalists are openly harassing people on social media, they also completely were talking about reducing womans reproductive rights along with an id system for every person from the UK who joins social media, along with making it a criminal offence to talk bad about the goverment, Liz Truss was having frequent meetings with religious nutters from the US
The misinformation of Brexit means they have no actual boundaries to what they can do, which I think was a great benefit to them.
England is being destroyed and i’ve been called crazy but none of this is normal and with that, they have been jumping into our media much more and trying to set up groups over here pretending they’re Irish
If there’s one thing I’ve learned about the British in the past 7 years, it’s that they value keeping calm and carrying on over literally everything.
Like it’s not just a wartime poster endlessly recycled until it’s lost all meaning, it’s actually what they feel is true success. The ability to keep up the appearance that everything is ok, that democracy must prevail even when it’s clearly not what the people want, has been placed above all else.
There’s no appetite there at present to face up to the fact that they’re turning into a country that will have the economy of Argentina and human rights of Turkey by 2040, if not sooner.
People don’t give a fuck. Sleep walking into losing certain civil rights. But it’s actually what alot of people want nowadays. Their so wrapped up with meaningless nonsense and prince Harry is teaching them your own lies can become true if you only believe hard enough and andrew tate is on every paper last few weeks as the token bad man to divert attention.
Nobody gives a fuck.
We have a politician who defaulted on mortgage while on 140grand , still managed to get another one and defaulted again and still owns the two houses all while he was junior minister for housing and the main papers only report that he resigned because he lied on a planning form.
Country’s run by cunts mate.
Im still waiting for the rebellion. I dont have the charisma or patience to start one, but i shall be participating in the revolution.
The UK has been going that way for a while now.
It all started with Thatcher’s government cracking down on unions, a load of anti-protest measures that were brought in the 90s, followed up by the RIP act (which is pure Orwellian stuff), and now the current anti strike and anti protest laws.
And both the Tories and Labour were all ok with this
I hate to say it, because I was born there and hold British citizenship, but the UK is is becoming a fascist police state and no one’s noticing it. I think the term “boiling frogs” definitely applies.
The Brits almost had a french-style uprising in London in the 1800s. But it rained, so no one turned up. That’s the level of determination we’re talking about here.
Too many glue incidents and blocked motorways
Tories gonna Tory.
See this is what happens with protests. You have the Governments turning their populace against protesters. “See it’s because of these protesters, you can’t get to work/hospital on time” etc. This is going down a very dark path and i’m surprised the British Taoiseach was so brazen in tweeting it out like that. We know over here they try to copy what the UK does so keep an eye out on our own crowd.
The only reason this isn’t law in Ireland is that nobody protests.
Start protesting more regularly/effectively, and see. The guards will all of a sudden stop being useless as well (except only to stop protests).
Our own will do something similar under the guise of “stopping the far right anti immigration protests” and 95% of this sub will cheer
I’m terrified with the way the country is going. I’m saving up to move out to Europe, hopefully. I though that maybe in Scotland we wouldn’t be so bad, but the government is looking at enacting section 35 of the Scotland act, blocking the GRR bill. Which is another terrifying slippery slope.
It feels like being chained to the spot where you’re watching someone burn down your house, but you can’t stop them and you can’t run either.
A slippery slope- before they know it- the uk public will be monitored like in China . This is no innocent move by the uk gov. Sunak is either an idiot or he is a very scary man indeed
England has always flirted with authoritarianism. More recently England has discovered nationalism thanks to the idiot brexiteers stirring it up for a vote.
Labour are not a left wing party, other small parties have… done nothing of note.
I honestly don’t see any way forward for the UK that isn’t a slow decline followed by breakup and further decline.
A nation in decline. Everyone’s lashing out in every direction trying find someone to blame for the declining living standards.
Don’t forget he also clamped down on the right to strike last week (a right protected by EU law)
I’m a nurse in NI.
I’m fully of the opinion that if this is brought into law, there should be mass protests on the streets and the place should be wrecked. Government buildings and big corporations, not local businesses. I’ll take the flack for incitement, I’ve no family to protect or pay for.
We’re being pushed into fascism and a lot of people – voters – don’t give enough of a fuck about politics to realise or even understand it. But they still vote. And they vote exactly how the government via mainstream media wants them to.
We have to be god damn sure we do not allow it to happen here. Has Varadkar written all over it
The recent sky news report into Westminster funding showed rishi sunak received thousands from oil companies, he’s now seeking to ban protests from stop the oil groups.
Tbf ireland are talking about banning protests outside residential areas. Residential areas are everywhere. On main streets over shops etc.
Glad to see people looking into this more. The gov are scumbags and we need to collectively push back.
Only a matter of time before it happens here and the world over. Once the government establishes a ban on protesting at certain locations, or for certain “agendas” or whatever, or at certain times etc., it’s only a matter of time before an outright ban on protesting occurs, particularly for anything that inconveniences the government.
People on this sub always throw out the slippery slope argument, but the reality is is that slowly but surely, our rights are being stripped away piece by piece and will continue to do so.
Same is about to happen in the Republic of Ireland.
New Bill which is due to be passed into law this month.
https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/74ed9-new-bill-to-tackle-hate-crime-and-hate-speech-includes-clear-provision-to-protect-freedom-of-expression/
This subreddit be like “this is awful” yet it would 100% support banning any disruptive protest it doesn’t agree with…i.e farmers blocking up the roads.
I’m a Brit, and I agree it’s a scary concept.
We as a people just don’t stand up for ourselves, so the gov will just get away with it as always.
What’s up is somehow these awful people who should never be running UK somehow manages to run it… its a circus government 🤡
Well governments are owned by business and workers rights are bad for business.
Make no mistake, when this law goes through it will make the UK a police state. When the police can arrest you for having a protest that is “noisy or a nuisance”, you have exactly zero right to protest anymore. Not to mention that under existing laws, someone who shouted “fuck the queen” at King Charles faces up to a year in prison and a £5,000 fine.
Brexit, Tory misrule and a whole host of chickens coming home to roost are starting to cause massive fractures over there. They are likely to get worse rather than better and most people sense this.
Tories are ideologically opposed to strikes at the best of times, but during periods of upheaval they see strikes as the first step to a French Revolution style situation where the rich and malicious (them) end up with their heads on the spike of some peasant (everyone else) and so they’ll always crack down on strikes and protests by any means they can.
Tories. They don’t like human rights, democracy etc.
UK govt has been doing this for the last 23 years at least. They have a surveillance state and they don’t want public protest.
This is just another step on the road that New Labour and the Tories have paved for the UK and its fucking scary. The UK’s direction is so far divorced from the rest of Europe that it really is no wonder they left the EU – they don’t fit. The UK govt and security services don’t want a liberal democracy they want a technocracy run by rich kids for business. In some ways I suspect the security services want incompetency in Parliament.
It’s completely terrifying; the UK is seriously going to the dogs. They’re talking about banning strikes too.
Oh well, makes UI more likely.
For a second I thought the headline said “banning protestants”.