* Thank you Professor Smith, Nobel Laureate, resident lecturer in epidemiology and virology, president of the British Society for Advanced Science and chair of the European Committee on Epidemiologic Vigilance; and now in the interests of balance we have Barry Miggins
* *Birds ain’t real, man. BIRDS. AIN’T. REAL!*
* Why thank you Barry, and now back to the studio.
The BBC in summary.
BBC looks for balance where there is none, their news department has taken a nose dive in quality over the last 10 yrs. Their coverage of the strikes has been awful, reporting of protesters abysmal and their acceptance of austerity as a forgone conclusion was a travesty. They just aren’t that good at covering and uncovering news. The PPE scandal was picked up almost reluctantly
So the guys an expert in his field, what’s wrong with him giving his evaluation of the events?
Trust the experts as long as it does not go against the narrative.
Vaccines are not perfect things, and you don’t have to be opposed to the concept of vaccination to know that receiving one against, say, influenza can actually be a risk to life if you have an adverse reaction
Why are people so quick to attack men like this doctor for positing that a covid vaccine might similarly have caused the death of his father? There is an almost religious insistence on denying that this is even possible, including ad hominem attacks and general mockery
Really don’t bother with the BBC anymore – Fiona Bruce on Questiontime is a reflection of the downward slide – drag David Dimbleby back. Think they are worried about the Tories and threat to the licence paying cash cow
The BBCs go to economist is Vicky Pryce. Every time they want an economists view it’s her face. She served a prison sentence for perverting the course of justice because she lied to a court. She’s a proven liar but it’s her views aired
So an expert has questioned or raised concerns about the vaccine, and the response is to label him extremist and misguided. That tells you something very dangerous about the system (regardless of whether he is right or not).
All the scientists agree I’m right, if you don’t count the ones that don’t
He only stated the evidence from the trials that there is a 1/800 chance of serious adverse effects from the vaccines, which make them one of if not the riskiest vaccines ever administered at scale before. For context many vaccines in the past have been binned for having a 1/5000 -1/7500 chance of serious effects.
I bet this doc can prove those claims are true. anything that goes against the narrative is ‘false’.
Wow-wee, the amount of die-hard cult members on here is astonishing!
“…cardiologist Aseem Malhotra made unsupported claims about the benefits and risks of COVID-19 vaccination”
I for one believe that medicine has never been wrong and anyone questioning any part of it should be canned.
This is tragic, the education system has truly failed us now
ITT anti vaxxers chancing their arm with made up stuff.
The excess death data for this year that the conspiracy theories t have been foaming over for months turned out to it support their beliefs at all. So so many people are suckered into total nonsense and genuinely believe everyone is dropping dead.
Reality is we are below the last two years, 9 percent above 2019 for a whole host of reasons, mainly late diagnosis and healthcare collapse, fuel crisis, OP and ambulance waits etc.
From what I can tell the all cause mortality is not higher in the vaccinated than unvaccinated,
It’s actually the other way round.
I just wish BBC news was separated from the rest of BBC content and the funding directed more towards to content other than just news; They aren’t fully transparent over exactly how funding is spent on News over its entire operations, but it does dominate BBC spending . From the news website, dedicated news channel, news on BBC1, local news, World service news, and news on all of their radio stations etc.
What I do know is that £310million is spent on TV news and it’s the biggest amount spent on TV services over other television content (so it doesn’t include news on internet, radio world service etc.).
For me it’s over-dominating spending budgets on TV alone and likely elsewhere too and thus causing a loss of more worthwhile non-news content/services.
When there is little or no “new” news they repeat the same diatribe over and over or scrape the barrel to find something to sensationalise or prolong the article. This is not “news”. It’s trash journalism.
Its time they binned all the talking head segments and just stuck to reporting facts Reuters-style without trying to expand on everything with opinions from so-called experts that sometimes turn out to be activists pushing an agenda or just plain wrong.
It’s sucking everything that was once good out of the BBC and forcing the public (that watch live broadcasts), by law to fund it in the most archaic and aggressive manner is not helping. Forcing retailers to give them your address when you buy a TV off them so they could barrage you with licence demands repeatedly, aggressively, sending round inspectors and basically bully you to buy a license. They even got British law changed to suit them (to address live streaming of BBC). How they continued to get away with this behaviour under multiple governments is beyond me – it should have been made a subscription service during the analogue switch off.
Maybe they should go back to regular news spots and dump 24 news channel. No time for debate then just news.
They misunderstand balanced reporting, it isn’t about having opposite views. It’s about impartial evidence based facts.
All I know is the the MRNA vaccine should not be injected intravenously and inter muscler only but the practice was not to aspirate and that could cause heart issues if it enters the blood stream.
I always asked and made sure any Covid vaccines I had that person injecting me aspirated the needle.
How could he claim his dad didn’t have any risk of cardiac disease, he was in the highest ethnicity group and was in his 70s?! I get his dads sudden loss was the trigger in this odd attention seeking behaviour but it’s gone too far now. He will get struck off by the GMC
And how do lay-people know better about heart disease than a qualified cardiologist here?
It seems to me thay tes some anti-vaxxers are just unknowledgable conspiracy theorists, but that doesn’t mean if a qualified doctor says something that it’s also made up.
I watched the clip, he was very measured in his words and not at all irresponsible. These scientists criticizing the BBC just want to silence any free thought that goes against their narrative. We have to question whether they are on the payroll of big pharma.
One does not have to be a ‘conspiracy theorist’ or ‘anti-vaxxer’ or any sort of crazy to want to question unexplaind death rates that are consistantly above the average. Or take a cautious approach and suggest that infants, children and young healthy idividuals should not be taking a novel injection.
There are a variety of reasons these higher than norm deaths could be occuring; However, if we look at the global picture then it becomes evident that there are a couple of stand out possibilities that are not just UK-centric.
**There is a problem**. Somewhere. And it is causing untold sufferering and death. This should not be flippantly dissmissed.
Open and transparent sharing of data would be a good start. Unfortunately, there is some reluctance from governments, medical authorities and pharmaceutical companies to comply with what should be a ‘no-brainer’. This of course leads to mis-trust.
The severe polarisation of vax vs antivax thinking is not productive. I would go so far as to suggest that for both camps it is becoming an entenched state of mind; akin to a new religion. ‘Correct Thinking’ vs ‘Free Thinking’.
But at the end of the day, there is only one thing that people should consider: Data.
I believe that unless people can speak freely about their ideas, especially if they are well qualified to do so, we live in a pretty Orwellian State.
Meanwhile, happy down-voting for stating the obvious.
>Aseem Malhotra’s ‘misguided’ views linking some Covid vaccines to excess heart disease deaths should not have aired, say experts
Sweden is currently looking into stopping all its vaccination programs, and numerous experts across the world have also made this link.
I’d rather trust an expert with a name rather than some nameless “experts” referred to by the article, and he’s not the only doctor who specifically is a cardiologist to make these links either.
The vaccines have already been shown to suppress the immune system, and Pfizer admitted to the european parliament they didn’t even test them to verify they worked before they started selling them.
It’s very telling that you’re not allowed to criticise the big pharma institutions and their government buddies otherwise you get labelled a conspiracy theorist.
But there are a lot of brave doctors speaking up who are going to be vindicated in the end.
Dr Malhotra is a consultant cardiologist and considered one of the top ones in the UK.
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* Thank you Professor Smith, Nobel Laureate, resident lecturer in epidemiology and virology, president of the British Society for Advanced Science and chair of the European Committee on Epidemiologic Vigilance; and now in the interests of balance we have Barry Miggins
* *Birds ain’t real, man. BIRDS. AIN’T. REAL!*
* Why thank you Barry, and now back to the studio.
The BBC in summary.
BBC looks for balance where there is none, their news department has taken a nose dive in quality over the last 10 yrs. Their coverage of the strikes has been awful, reporting of protesters abysmal and their acceptance of austerity as a forgone conclusion was a travesty. They just aren’t that good at covering and uncovering news. The PPE scandal was picked up almost reluctantly
So the guys an expert in his field, what’s wrong with him giving his evaluation of the events?
Trust the experts as long as it does not go against the narrative.
Vaccines are not perfect things, and you don’t have to be opposed to the concept of vaccination to know that receiving one against, say, influenza can actually be a risk to life if you have an adverse reaction
Why are people so quick to attack men like this doctor for positing that a covid vaccine might similarly have caused the death of his father? There is an almost religious insistence on denying that this is even possible, including ad hominem attacks and general mockery
Really don’t bother with the BBC anymore – Fiona Bruce on Questiontime is a reflection of the downward slide – drag David Dimbleby back. Think they are worried about the Tories and threat to the licence paying cash cow
The BBCs go to economist is Vicky Pryce. Every time they want an economists view it’s her face. She served a prison sentence for perverting the course of justice because she lied to a court. She’s a proven liar but it’s her views aired
So an expert has questioned or raised concerns about the vaccine, and the response is to label him extremist and misguided. That tells you something very dangerous about the system (regardless of whether he is right or not).
All the scientists agree I’m right, if you don’t count the ones that don’t
He only stated the evidence from the trials that there is a 1/800 chance of serious adverse effects from the vaccines, which make them one of if not the riskiest vaccines ever administered at scale before. For context many vaccines in the past have been binned for having a 1/5000 -1/7500 chance of serious effects.
I bet this doc can prove those claims are true. anything that goes against the narrative is ‘false’.
Wow-wee, the amount of die-hard cult members on here is astonishing!
“…cardiologist Aseem Malhotra made unsupported claims about the benefits and risks of COVID-19 vaccination”
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/article-by-cardiologist-aseem-malhotra-made-unsupported-claims-about-benefits-risks-covid-19-vaccination/
If it’s a false claim, why are the CDC is looking into it?
[https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/23/cdc-reports-more-than-1200-cases-of-rare-heart-inflammation-after-covid-vaccine-shots.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/23/cdc-reports-more-than-1200-cases-of-rare-heart-inflammation-after-covid-vaccine-shots.html)
[https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-guidance-heart-inflammation-covid-19-vaccine](https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-guidance-heart-inflammation-covid-19-vaccine)
[https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/evidence-grows-stronger-covid-vaccine-link-heart-issue-cdc-says-n1270339](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/evidence-grows-stronger-covid-vaccine-link-heart-issue-cdc-says-n1270339)
I for one believe that medicine has never been wrong and anyone questioning any part of it should be canned.
This is tragic, the education system has truly failed us now
ITT anti vaxxers chancing their arm with made up stuff.
The excess death data for this year that the conspiracy theories t have been foaming over for months turned out to it support their beliefs at all. So so many people are suckered into total nonsense and genuinely believe everyone is dropping dead.
Reality is we are below the last two years, 9 percent above 2019 for a whole host of reasons, mainly late diagnosis and healthcare collapse, fuel crisis, OP and ambulance waits etc.
From what I can tell the all cause mortality is not higher in the vaccinated than unvaccinated,
It’s actually the other way round.
I just wish BBC news was separated from the rest of BBC content and the funding directed more towards to content other than just news; They aren’t fully transparent over exactly how funding is spent on News over its entire operations, but it does dominate BBC spending . From the news website, dedicated news channel, news on BBC1, local news, World service news, and news on all of their radio stations etc.
What I do know is that £310million is spent on TV news and it’s the biggest amount spent on TV services over other television content (so it doesn’t include news on internet, radio world service etc.).
For me it’s over-dominating spending budgets on TV alone and likely elsewhere too and thus causing a loss of more worthwhile non-news content/services.
When there is little or no “new” news they repeat the same diatribe over and over or scrape the barrel to find something to sensationalise or prolong the article. This is not “news”. It’s trash journalism.
Its time they binned all the talking head segments and just stuck to reporting facts Reuters-style without trying to expand on everything with opinions from so-called experts that sometimes turn out to be activists pushing an agenda or just plain wrong.
It’s sucking everything that was once good out of the BBC and forcing the public (that watch live broadcasts), by law to fund it in the most archaic and aggressive manner is not helping. Forcing retailers to give them your address when you buy a TV off them so they could barrage you with licence demands repeatedly, aggressively, sending round inspectors and basically bully you to buy a license. They even got British law changed to suit them (to address live streaming of BBC). How they continued to get away with this behaviour under multiple governments is beyond me – it should have been made a subscription service during the analogue switch off.
Maybe they should go back to regular news spots and dump 24 news channel. No time for debate then just news.
They misunderstand balanced reporting, it isn’t about having opposite views. It’s about impartial evidence based facts.
All I know is the the MRNA vaccine should not be injected intravenously and inter muscler only but the practice was not to aspirate and that could cause heart issues if it enters the blood stream.
I always asked and made sure any Covid vaccines I had that person injecting me aspirated the needle.
How could he claim his dad didn’t have any risk of cardiac disease, he was in the highest ethnicity group and was in his 70s?! I get his dads sudden loss was the trigger in this odd attention seeking behaviour but it’s gone too far now. He will get struck off by the GMC
And how do lay-people know better about heart disease than a qualified cardiologist here?
It seems to me thay tes some anti-vaxxers are just unknowledgable conspiracy theorists, but that doesn’t mean if a qualified doctor says something that it’s also made up.
I watched the clip, he was very measured in his words and not at all irresponsible. These scientists criticizing the BBC just want to silence any free thought that goes against their narrative. We have to question whether they are on the payroll of big pharma.
One does not have to be a ‘conspiracy theorist’ or ‘anti-vaxxer’ or any sort of crazy to want to question unexplaind death rates that are consistantly above the average. Or take a cautious approach and suggest that infants, children and young healthy idividuals should not be taking a novel injection.
There are a variety of reasons these higher than norm deaths could be occuring; However, if we look at the global picture then it becomes evident that there are a couple of stand out possibilities that are not just UK-centric.
**There is a problem**. Somewhere. And it is causing untold sufferering and death. This should not be flippantly dissmissed.
Open and transparent sharing of data would be a good start. Unfortunately, there is some reluctance from governments, medical authorities and pharmaceutical companies to comply with what should be a ‘no-brainer’. This of course leads to mis-trust.
The severe polarisation of vax vs antivax thinking is not productive. I would go so far as to suggest that for both camps it is becoming an entenched state of mind; akin to a new religion. ‘Correct Thinking’ vs ‘Free Thinking’.
But at the end of the day, there is only one thing that people should consider: Data.
I believe that unless people can speak freely about their ideas, especially if they are well qualified to do so, we live in a pretty Orwellian State.
Meanwhile, happy down-voting for stating the obvious.
>Aseem Malhotra’s ‘misguided’ views linking some Covid vaccines to excess heart disease deaths should not have aired, say experts
Sweden is currently looking into stopping all its vaccination programs, and numerous experts across the world have also made this link.
I’d rather trust an expert with a name rather than some nameless “experts” referred to by the article, and he’s not the only doctor who specifically is a cardiologist to make these links either.
The vaccines have already been shown to suppress the immune system, and Pfizer admitted to the european parliament they didn’t even test them to verify they worked before they started selling them.
It’s very telling that you’re not allowed to criticise the big pharma institutions and their government buddies otherwise you get labelled a conspiracy theorist.
But there are a lot of brave doctors speaking up who are going to be vindicated in the end.
Dr Malhotra is a consultant cardiologist and considered one of the top ones in the UK.