“People who are watching every penny don’t deserve medical care.”
There’s not any part of this country some politician isn’t trying to take away from the public and monetise.
And there it is. I’ve been saying for years that this will be the start. We won’t end up like the US, but we will have a system where you pay for healthcare and people die because they daren’t go to the doctors.
Javid and his cronies should be charged… for vandalism
Tory ministers advocating for the public to pay twice for healthcare, via taxation and direct charges, should declare publicly at each point just how financially invested they are in private healthcare. Then mention how many £billions have been wasted/stolen/defrauded during their tenure.
The main problem is GPs. So many people sitting in A and E with minor ailments because they simply can’t get an appointment at their GP.
A and E should be for emergencies… not for runny noses and tickly coughs or sprained ankles and grazed knees.
We’re already my charged a nominal fee for it every month, Javid. Only thing is, you and your mates spaff it all up the wall instead of spending it sensibly.
SJ is an idiot.
Great time to replace all idiots!
When is the next general election? I can’t wait!
Were this to happen, could I get a refund for the Immigration Health Surcharge when I applied for the visa? I paid £680 a year but I feel like I get nothing and NHS isn’t worth the money.
If the do this how many people will
– just not go to the GP even for fairly significant stuff. As a result not get treatment, end up in A&E genuinely unwell and cost the NHS a whole boat load more?
– just head off to A&E anyway?
We are already seeing how people not accessing GPs during covid is battering the NHS further down the line. It takes a special kind of idiot to go ‘hey, that was great! Let’s do more!’
I’m assuming my NI contributions will reduce accordingly or am I just going to get rinsed twice?
Right so no more poor people at the GPs and A&E that should cut the queue times down.
Fuck you sajid
What’s worse than having to wait for 20 hours in A&E? Having to pay for the luxury.
Forcing people to pay will prevent people from seeking medical attention earlier. For so many conditons early presentation is associated with better outcomes, easier management and faster discharge. Yes, you might weed out *some* time wasters – but there’s not many time wasters waiting the 20 hours in A&E.
So i have to pay for my dentist, when I’m older if i need to go into a care home I’ll have to pay for that, I have a private pension and will now need to pay for health care so does that mean i don’t have to pay my NI?
If im being charged to see the GP, then what is my national insurance for?
They underfunded the NHS, skinned and gutted it, encouraged mainstream media to talk shit about how bad it is, all to encourage the public to be on their side when they went to privatise it.
I’ve been saying this for about 10 years and I don’t understand how some people can’t see it.
They do this in Ireland already. Doesn’t make ANY difference to wait times at all. Now you’re just paying to wait.
So does that mean I can stop paying £500 a month in national insurance?
And this is why you should never vote Tory ever again. At least now they’re saying the quiet bit out loud. This was always the plan, and even if it wasn’t, it’s either design or incompetence that has lead us here, neither are what is wanted in government.
There’s only one generation that should be paying for it and that’s the generation that has constantly voted to wreck it.
Genius. There aren’t enough nurses or doctors to deal with the number of ill people, so instead of fixing that, let’s charge people for being sick!
The right wing Tory wet dream, make the NHS like America and then introduce their insurance buddies to finish the job. Who is still voting for these absolute twats?
This sickens me. I absolutely dread to think what this would mean for cancer outcomes. I found a lump myself which turned out to be cancerous but my GP was my first port of call – and even he thought it was benign. Who knows if I would have bothered to have gone to the GP if there had been a charge. The inevitable outcome for me would have been stage 4/dead.
How can there possibly be any Tory voters left. Do you feel no shame ?
What he really means is.
We need to ease waiting times by making sure the poor don’t have access.
Because in reality, that’s how systems where you have to pay manage waiting times, they use cost to keep the poor off the waiting list.
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“People who are watching every penny don’t deserve medical care.”
There’s not any part of this country some politician isn’t trying to take away from the public and monetise.
And there it is. I’ve been saying for years that this will be the start. We won’t end up like the US, but we will have a system where you pay for healthcare and people die because they daren’t go to the doctors.
Javid and his cronies should be charged… for vandalism
Tory ministers advocating for the public to pay twice for healthcare, via taxation and direct charges, should declare publicly at each point just how financially invested they are in private healthcare. Then mention how many £billions have been wasted/stolen/defrauded during their tenure.
The main problem is GPs. So many people sitting in A and E with minor ailments because they simply can’t get an appointment at their GP.
A and E should be for emergencies… not for runny noses and tickly coughs or sprained ankles and grazed knees.
We’re already my charged a nominal fee for it every month, Javid. Only thing is, you and your mates spaff it all up the wall instead of spending it sensibly.
SJ is an idiot.
Great time to replace all idiots!
When is the next general election? I can’t wait!
Were this to happen, could I get a refund for the Immigration Health Surcharge when I applied for the visa? I paid £680 a year but I feel like I get nothing and NHS isn’t worth the money.
If the do this how many people will
– just not go to the GP even for fairly significant stuff. As a result not get treatment, end up in A&E genuinely unwell and cost the NHS a whole boat load more?
– just head off to A&E anyway?
We are already seeing how people not accessing GPs during covid is battering the NHS further down the line. It takes a special kind of idiot to go ‘hey, that was great! Let’s do more!’
I’m assuming my NI contributions will reduce accordingly or am I just going to get rinsed twice?
Right so no more poor people at the GPs and A&E that should cut the queue times down.
Fuck you sajid
What’s worse than having to wait for 20 hours in A&E? Having to pay for the luxury.
Forcing people to pay will prevent people from seeking medical attention earlier. For so many conditons early presentation is associated with better outcomes, easier management and faster discharge. Yes, you might weed out *some* time wasters – but there’s not many time wasters waiting the 20 hours in A&E.
So i have to pay for my dentist, when I’m older if i need to go into a care home I’ll have to pay for that, I have a private pension and will now need to pay for health care so does that mean i don’t have to pay my NI?
If im being charged to see the GP, then what is my national insurance for?
They underfunded the NHS, skinned and gutted it, encouraged mainstream media to talk shit about how bad it is, all to encourage the public to be on their side when they went to privatise it.
I’ve been saying this for about 10 years and I don’t understand how some people can’t see it.
They do this in Ireland already. Doesn’t make ANY difference to wait times at all. Now you’re just paying to wait.
So does that mean I can stop paying £500 a month in national insurance?
And this is why you should never vote Tory ever again. At least now they’re saying the quiet bit out loud. This was always the plan, and even if it wasn’t, it’s either design or incompetence that has lead us here, neither are what is wanted in government.
There’s only one generation that should be paying for it and that’s the generation that has constantly voted to wreck it.
Genius. There aren’t enough nurses or doctors to deal with the number of ill people, so instead of fixing that, let’s charge people for being sick!
The right wing Tory wet dream, make the NHS like America and then introduce their insurance buddies to finish the job. Who is still voting for these absolute twats?
This sickens me. I absolutely dread to think what this would mean for cancer outcomes. I found a lump myself which turned out to be cancerous but my GP was my first port of call – and even he thought it was benign. Who knows if I would have bothered to have gone to the GP if there had been a charge. The inevitable outcome for me would have been stage 4/dead.
How can there possibly be any Tory voters left. Do you feel no shame ?
What he really means is.
We need to ease waiting times by making sure the poor don’t have access.
Because in reality, that’s how systems where you have to pay manage waiting times, they use cost to keep the poor off the waiting list.