No shit. Country has finally entered accommodation crisis according to a government. Bunch a f clowns!
Will this lead to the same issues they have in France, Italy, Spain etc where huge groups of mainly african young men set up homeless shanty towns around train stations and such? Where does this stop?
I get the need to help others and those less fortunate. But we’re a country with a small population ourselves. We can’t save the world. Nigeria alone is predicted to have a population growth of 130 million between now and 2050. Do we really think we can sustain the current levels of asylum seekers we’re seeing if those countries where the majority of these men are coming from are themselves having population booms? Literally when do we say its enough?
I don’t think Ireland is prepared for the consequences of this at all.
Shanty towns will start to pop up soon enough. This is very grim, and shows the complete lack of governing ability of our ‘ government ‘ parties.
It beggars belief what our government is doing to our country.
WHERE IS THE COMMON FUCKING SENSE? In what modern fucking society is it acceptable for a government offical to say ”well, we have no more resources at present, no more places to house these refugees and Asylum seekers, they’re just going to be on the streets from now on, and that’s that, oh.. and we’re still going to take in another 80k this year of 2023, and another 80k in 2024 and so on.’
This is going to turn into a Mad Max tier event by the end of the year. You’ll have makeshift shanty towns across our major towns and cities, thousands of young lads from ethnic groups that hate one another brawling in the streets. The Far right parties that were formally viewed as jokes will absolutely get in power and the current leaders will only have themselves to blame.
If Ireland pulled its finger out to process, reject and deport economic migrants, the situation would be better. Not fixed, but much better. The slow processing, the endless appeals etc is contributing to the problem. If you want to come to Ireland as an economic migrant, there’s a visa for that. If you don’t qualify for a legal visa, you don’t come to Ireland. Hell, if they need headcount I’d give up a few evenings or Saturdays just to stamp “Rejected. Deport within 36 hours” on a bunch of applications from Algeria, Georgia etc
Statement out today from O’Gorman’s Department of Children, Equality, Integration and Youth.
It is asking people not to travel here because there is no more accommodation.
EDIT: the responses to the tweet are worth a read!
When refugees rights are under attack…STAND UP FIGHT BACK! #Irelandisnotfull #Stopthefarright
Honestly the only way to solve this is to make it clear that those who enter legally or who seek asylum at a registered point of entry get a chance to prove their claim at least. Those who enter illegally or enter via illegal means forfeit all rights against deportation and can be deported immediately without appeal.
Other ways they can look at clamping down is making it also clear that those who arrive without documentation or who board a flight at their origin point and “lose” their documents also lose their rights to entry and claim asylum but are immediately deported back to their place of origin.
I honestly think in terms of migration there needs to be a wholesale reevaluation on those who enter, if they entered legally they should be entitled to rights of course even if their visas expire of course but what they need is to make it clear that illegal entry means forfeiture of any rights to asylum, period. As harsh as it sounds it might be the only way to sort the issue down the line.
I do wonder if these asylum seekers will even stay here though or they’re trying to reach England instead.
I can’t believe a group like Aontú haven’t jumped all over this shit. Judging by happenings politically in Europe and the scenes of late here, there is huge gains to be made for a non-scummy (i.e. the national party) group to make. Considering their original stance was tight immigration control, which they were scolded for a few years back, why aren’t they saying anything?
A few years ago a lot of people said this would happen, myself included, and the response was always somewhere along the lines of “racism this, bigotry that”, not to mention the classic “sure we went abroad in our droves and were welcomed with open arms”.
Were there racist elements in some of the original comments? Of course. But there’s a medium where we literally do not have the resources or housing to provide for extra people coming in. The calculus does not work out.
It’s all so sad. We didn’t even have 100 years of freedom.
So…. Refugees ..not welcome?
What’s the difference between refugees, asylum seekers and international protection applicants?
I was chatting to a colleague at the weekend. Family of hers were given notice to move along with several of their neighbours. Landlord intended to sell. Landlord is a property developer who is also completing a phase of houses in the same estate. It has transpired that the landlord/property developer did not sell but rented the houses out to direct provision (presumably more money in that than the private rental market). This is not hearsay, it is a fact that they have proven through legal investigation. A few more cases like that, where citizens are literally displaced and we could squeeze in a few more asylum seekers!!
It never should have been promised in the first place.
Well done people open your eyes. The problems with asylum seekers here in Ireland is only going to get a lot worse than it is now. Parts of France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Norway have had these problems for years where the local women know what would happen to them if they went near the no go areas. Even local men avoid the ghetos. Of course I’d be labeled a discusting racist if I said as much even one year ago here. This is the reality of what happes in these countries even if the news you read and watch does not inform you. Wait till you see whats coming down the line to our nice safe(believe it or belive it not) little counrty!
Neither will homeless Irish people.
Predicted this at the start of the Ukraine war. How the government didn’t prepare for it is beyond me but it doesn’t surprise me either.
This could become v real. It already feels like Government have lost control of the situation. I think they’ve tried to do the right thing but didn’t & don’t realise you have to understand basic metrics on this stuff eg. Capacity re housing, health & education. Government is as much about taking hard decisions as anything but they’ve tried to hide/ ignore these decisions.
If Sinn Fein stood up and made a hard stance on this issue I’d consider voting for them.
W. A.
I think the smart thing to do is temporarily not accept refugees. Its madness to put people on the street. Sort things out and then accept people again.
Just wait to get called racist for not blindly accepting thousands of refugees and asylum seekers with nowhere to stay, some people need a reality check
We need a Rwanda law
Hopefully when all he tent city’s appear like in France it will bring down house prices in that area
The Irish government has mishandled this for decades, since Direct Provision. I’m pro-immigration and wanting to help people but seemingly every system Ireland implements is a shambles.
Virtue signaling will always win out over responsible action with these weak, vain, cowardly half-men
Hard times create hard people who create soft times that leads to soft people who create hard times.
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What happens to new applicants in the interim?
No shit. Country has finally entered accommodation crisis according to a government. Bunch a f clowns!
Will this lead to the same issues they have in France, Italy, Spain etc where huge groups of mainly african young men set up homeless shanty towns around train stations and such? Where does this stop?
I get the need to help others and those less fortunate. But we’re a country with a small population ourselves. We can’t save the world. Nigeria alone is predicted to have a population growth of 130 million between now and 2050. Do we really think we can sustain the current levels of asylum seekers we’re seeing if those countries where the majority of these men are coming from are themselves having population booms? Literally when do we say its enough?
I don’t think Ireland is prepared for the consequences of this at all.
Shanty towns will start to pop up soon enough. This is very grim, and shows the complete lack of governing ability of our ‘ government ‘ parties.
It beggars belief what our government is doing to our country.
WHERE IS THE COMMON FUCKING SENSE? In what modern fucking society is it acceptable for a government offical to say ”well, we have no more resources at present, no more places to house these refugees and Asylum seekers, they’re just going to be on the streets from now on, and that’s that, oh.. and we’re still going to take in another 80k this year of 2023, and another 80k in 2024 and so on.’
This is going to turn into a Mad Max tier event by the end of the year. You’ll have makeshift shanty towns across our major towns and cities, thousands of young lads from ethnic groups that hate one another brawling in the streets. The Far right parties that were formally viewed as jokes will absolutely get in power and the current leaders will only have themselves to blame.
If Ireland pulled its finger out to process, reject and deport economic migrants, the situation would be better. Not fixed, but much better. The slow processing, the endless appeals etc is contributing to the problem. If you want to come to Ireland as an economic migrant, there’s a visa for that. If you don’t qualify for a legal visa, you don’t come to Ireland. Hell, if they need headcount I’d give up a few evenings or Saturdays just to stamp “Rejected. Deport within 36 hours” on a bunch of applications from Algeria, Georgia etc
Statement out today from O’Gorman’s Department of Children, Equality, Integration and Youth.
It is asking people not to travel here because there is no more accommodation.
https://twitter.com/dcediy/status/1617467178013409281
It appears Ireland is full.
EDIT: the responses to the tweet are worth a read!
When refugees rights are under attack…STAND UP FIGHT BACK! #Irelandisnotfull #Stopthefarright
Honestly the only way to solve this is to make it clear that those who enter legally or who seek asylum at a registered point of entry get a chance to prove their claim at least. Those who enter illegally or enter via illegal means forfeit all rights against deportation and can be deported immediately without appeal.
Other ways they can look at clamping down is making it also clear that those who arrive without documentation or who board a flight at their origin point and “lose” their documents also lose their rights to entry and claim asylum but are immediately deported back to their place of origin.
I honestly think in terms of migration there needs to be a wholesale reevaluation on those who enter, if they entered legally they should be entitled to rights of course even if their visas expire of course but what they need is to make it clear that illegal entry means forfeiture of any rights to asylum, period. As harsh as it sounds it might be the only way to sort the issue down the line.
I do wonder if these asylum seekers will even stay here though or they’re trying to reach England instead.
I can’t believe a group like Aontú haven’t jumped all over this shit. Judging by happenings politically in Europe and the scenes of late here, there is huge gains to be made for a non-scummy (i.e. the national party) group to make. Considering their original stance was tight immigration control, which they were scolded for a few years back, why aren’t they saying anything?
This has been the situation in Belgium for a while now
https://www.brusselstimes.com/356089/despite-6000-convictions-belgium-still-refuses-to-tackle-reception-crisis
I just want to point something out.
A few years ago a lot of people said this would happen, myself included, and the response was always somewhere along the lines of “racism this, bigotry that”, not to mention the classic “sure we went abroad in our droves and were welcomed with open arms”.
Were there racist elements in some of the original comments? Of course. But there’s a medium where we literally do not have the resources or housing to provide for extra people coming in. The calculus does not work out.
It’s all so sad. We didn’t even have 100 years of freedom.
So…. Refugees ..not welcome?
What’s the difference between refugees, asylum seekers and international protection applicants?
I was chatting to a colleague at the weekend. Family of hers were given notice to move along with several of their neighbours. Landlord intended to sell. Landlord is a property developer who is also completing a phase of houses in the same estate. It has transpired that the landlord/property developer did not sell but rented the houses out to direct provision (presumably more money in that than the private rental market). This is not hearsay, it is a fact that they have proven through legal investigation. A few more cases like that, where citizens are literally displaced and we could squeeze in a few more asylum seekers!!
It never should have been promised in the first place.
Well done people open your eyes. The problems with asylum seekers here in Ireland is only going to get a lot worse than it is now. Parts of France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Norway have had these problems for years where the local women know what would happen to them if they went near the no go areas. Even local men avoid the ghetos. Of course I’d be labeled a discusting racist if I said as much even one year ago here. This is the reality of what happes in these countries even if the news you read and watch does not inform you. Wait till you see whats coming down the line to our nice safe(believe it or belive it not) little counrty!
Neither will homeless Irish people.
Predicted this at the start of the Ukraine war. How the government didn’t prepare for it is beyond me but it doesn’t surprise me either.
This could become v real. It already feels like Government have lost control of the situation. I think they’ve tried to do the right thing but didn’t & don’t realise you have to understand basic metrics on this stuff eg. Capacity re housing, health & education. Government is as much about taking hard decisions as anything but they’ve tried to hide/ ignore these decisions.
If Sinn Fein stood up and made a hard stance on this issue I’d consider voting for them.
W. A.
I think the smart thing to do is temporarily not accept refugees. Its madness to put people on the street. Sort things out and then accept people again.
Just wait to get called racist for not blindly accepting thousands of refugees and asylum seekers with nowhere to stay, some people need a reality check
We need a Rwanda law
Hopefully when all he tent city’s appear like in France it will bring down house prices in that area
The Irish government has mishandled this for decades, since Direct Provision. I’m pro-immigration and wanting to help people but seemingly every system Ireland implements is a shambles.
Virtue signaling will always win out over responsible action with these weak, vain, cowardly half-men
Hard times create hard people who create soft times that leads to soft people who create hard times.
We’re at the end of the cycle