They never did. Its a perverse thing that people of a certain political persuasion instinctively retort when somebody criticises their NHS
NHS as a concept should be the envy of the world. NHS as a practical thing in its current state, having suffered from 12 years of Tory abuse, clearly shouldn’t.
The NHS is really creaking and I’ve opted for private the last few times that I’ve needed to see someone because the NHS can be quite painful to deal with and I find that private is more reliable, a lot more rapid, and generally really pleasant to use too. However, I’m not loaded and I’m aware that there are treatments that I couldn’t afford private and for which I would have to use the NHS. As well as finding private treatment good value for money I do think that there’s a responsibility to use it if you’re able to to reduce the pressure on the NHS. (If I were Sunak then that’s how I would have answered that question).
I also think we should think a bit more about the responsibility of maintaining our bodies. I’m aware that there are many afflictions that happen by chance or normal changes due to ageing, but there are also many people that don’t take care of themselves and end up heavily using the NHS because of that. I find it a bit upsetting to see people in an unhealthy state due to their own actions, and also seeing that it’s becoming much more common and normalised.
I wouldn’t want to abolish the NHS because I’m aware that without it the people that couldn’t go private would end up seeing nobody and then likely dying from causes that were fully preventable.
Overall, I think we all have a responsibility to reduce the use of the NHS by going private when we can, and take care of ourselves better so that we don’t need it as frequently as we do in our lives. If we were able to reduce the pressure to an amount with which NHS can cope then I’d consider that vastly preferable to an ever escalating rate of tax that we are all going to be on the hook for.
Patients hate the prospect of having to use it. Doctors don’t want to work for it. Yet we’re all supposed to pretend its great.
Ah here we go, we have completed the _underfund_ stage of the plan, now comes the spreading of the opinion that we need an alternative system.
And judging by the comments here, the plan is succeeding.
I think anyone who has been ill or injured in the US or a third world country will envy the NHS.
I have my issue with the NHS, but I don’t feel confident about the NHS going private, because when has privatising things solved anything? The railways are privatised and they’ve been terrible.
Also I think this is misleading.
>It was confirmed by a damning inquiry by four respected think tanks to mark the NHS’s 70th birthday which found Britain had among the worst “amenable mortality” levels — when people die from potentially preventable conditions — among 18 similar nations. They pointed out how 117 out of every 100,000 Britons died avoidably in one year under study, compared with just 78 in best-performing France.
The NHS can’t be held responsible for every potentially preventable death either. The NHS can encourage people to stop smoking for example, but it can’t stop them. Nor can it force people to have a healthy diet.
It is not the current stripped skeleton of the NHS that should be envied, it it the idea of the NHS. Now that is something to be proud of.
Of course, one of the greatest things this country can be proud of is being gutted for money by the Tories.
Says right wing ‘think’ tank
UnHerd was founded in 2017 by conservative British political activist Tim Montgomerie, who also acted as editor.
The only reason for a lack of envy in the NHS is that we keep putting people who are ideologically opposed to its existence in charge for it and then getting all shocked Pikachu face when it starts falling apart under their disingenuous hand.
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They never did. Its a perverse thing that people of a certain political persuasion instinctively retort when somebody criticises their NHS
NHS as a concept should be the envy of the world. NHS as a practical thing in its current state, having suffered from 12 years of Tory abuse, clearly shouldn’t.
The NHS is really creaking and I’ve opted for private the last few times that I’ve needed to see someone because the NHS can be quite painful to deal with and I find that private is more reliable, a lot more rapid, and generally really pleasant to use too. However, I’m not loaded and I’m aware that there are treatments that I couldn’t afford private and for which I would have to use the NHS. As well as finding private treatment good value for money I do think that there’s a responsibility to use it if you’re able to to reduce the pressure on the NHS. (If I were Sunak then that’s how I would have answered that question).
I also think we should think a bit more about the responsibility of maintaining our bodies. I’m aware that there are many afflictions that happen by chance or normal changes due to ageing, but there are also many people that don’t take care of themselves and end up heavily using the NHS because of that. I find it a bit upsetting to see people in an unhealthy state due to their own actions, and also seeing that it’s becoming much more common and normalised.
I wouldn’t want to abolish the NHS because I’m aware that without it the people that couldn’t go private would end up seeing nobody and then likely dying from causes that were fully preventable.
Overall, I think we all have a responsibility to reduce the use of the NHS by going private when we can, and take care of ourselves better so that we don’t need it as frequently as we do in our lives. If we were able to reduce the pressure to an amount with which NHS can cope then I’d consider that vastly preferable to an ever escalating rate of tax that we are all going to be on the hook for.
Patients hate the prospect of having to use it. Doctors don’t want to work for it. Yet we’re all supposed to pretend its great.
Ah here we go, we have completed the _underfund_ stage of the plan, now comes the spreading of the opinion that we need an alternative system.
And judging by the comments here, the plan is succeeding.
I think anyone who has been ill or injured in the US or a third world country will envy the NHS.
I have my issue with the NHS, but I don’t feel confident about the NHS going private, because when has privatising things solved anything? The railways are privatised and they’ve been terrible.
Also I think this is misleading.
>It was confirmed by a damning inquiry by four respected think tanks to mark the NHS’s 70th birthday which found Britain had among the worst “amenable mortality” levels — when people die from potentially preventable conditions — among 18 similar nations. They pointed out how 117 out of every 100,000 Britons died avoidably in one year under study, compared with just 78 in best-performing France.
The NHS can’t be held responsible for every potentially preventable death either. The NHS can encourage people to stop smoking for example, but it can’t stop them. Nor can it force people to have a healthy diet.
It is not the current stripped skeleton of the NHS that should be envied, it it the idea of the NHS. Now that is something to be proud of.
Of course, one of the greatest things this country can be proud of is being gutted for money by the Tories.
Says right wing ‘think’ tank
UnHerd was founded in 2017 by conservative British political activist Tim Montgomerie, who also acted as editor.
Any one who believes this crap should read,
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mindf-Inside-Cambridge-Analyticas-Break/dp/1788164997
Buy from a local store.
We have been royally shafted
The only reason for a lack of envy in the NHS is that we keep putting people who are ideologically opposed to its existence in charge for it and then getting all shocked Pikachu face when it starts falling apart under their disingenuous hand.