You’ll need a ring road to make room for the tram.
Just going to say the obvious thing that cars can come from more destinations than a metro can
Metro works best with high density accommodation. City councils and opposition parties are currently opposed to high density development, and even if they weren’t, they would take a while to build.
And of course because of the lack of high density accommodation people have to commute from further away, making the car even more necessary.
Best we can do is a half-way house, of car some of the way, metro the rest.
Public transport wastes time
Okay, so let’s go with a metro…oh we did…oh we did years ago, oh no it’s literally decades behind it’s promised delivery dates. Ho-hum.
We live in a country that can’t even build a children’s hospital without turning it in to such a farce that it becomes the most expensive hospital in the world and being more expensive than the worlds tallest building…several levels of irony there given our relationship with tall buildings.
Also for some strange reason, there seems to be a fixation on the most expensive solution with the highest cost in terms of infrastructure…other countries get on just grand with [trolleybus systems.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus)
Basically as I see it, the Greens and others have taken it on themselves to be anti-car but without saying it publicly because they know well they’d get it in the neck for it. We now have a group of the population who can’t understand why the rest of us can’t just get the bus when there is no bus or why we can’t cycle 160k daily(one of them actually said this to me) to commute. But rather than put their position on the line and out for challenge, we now have an ongoing agenda to sabotage the only practical transport options we have. A large part of this will be the constant flying of kites of quixotic suggestions that magic solutions can solve all our problems leveraging on the ignorance of people in terms of just how hard building infrastructure is. A great example of this is the Galway city Gluas crowd, the ring road will now be challenged in court where delay comes in decades not years, and all the while they will be pretending we can magically just smash a massive piece of new infrastructure in to and through the city. Unlike the Nottingham light rail system, there’s no suggestion of designing it to reach out massively in to the surrounds of the city…and let’s be realistic, that’s nigh on impossible given our planning structures and ironically environmental designations.
So you’ll be told that if we just opposed what we actually can do and embrace what’s extremely impractical it’ll be the cure to all our woes. Going back to the metro…how long would it take in Galway: Decades. But as to more practical solutions like trolleybuses…not [monorail](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM) enough I’m afraid.
Would be great if cycles were included.
Look just accept the fact our country’s infrastructure is shit. Get a job in one of the half dozen professions that pay well enough to live in the city and just wait until you go from being pissed upon to pissing down on the next generation
People buy cars; the tax from cars and from petrol go to government; the government like tax and can spend it on stuff to keep them in government.
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The government have to spend hundreds of billions on infrastructure that they mightn’t get to take credit for, because they probably won’t be in government when it’s completed.
This could be a reason why metros in this country won’t happen
No watch what happens when we add a convenor belt and a compactor to the equation.
I can’t smoke joints on my way to work in a tram though 😉
Ireland absolutely needs more rail but that doesn’t mean some places need more roads. Galway probably needs one.
Nice idea but our population density in most of the country isn’t high enough to support good public transport. Only in Dublin is it really good enough to support things like light rail and metros with the smaller cities getting by with a bus service after.
In rural Ireland cars are simply a necessity and that’s never going to change so long as the density is to low.
A 9m wide metro track isn’t enough either. There also have to be enough trains with enough carriages with enough capacity travelling fast enough and a high enough frequency.
The social ideology of the motorcar by Andre Gorz linked above is a fantastic essay that I’d encourage you all to read.
Cars really have to be done away with if we want livable cities.
When I’m in a car, I am at low risk of respiratory infections.
Galway needs a ring road.
Do you really think the government would give us a metro? Or even a Luas?
It’s cheaper for me and the missus to drive Into the city and pay for parking than it is to pay for the bus in and out. Driving is way more convenient and bad for the environment yet it’s the cheapest option.
Proper transport police are needed, with actual fucking enforcement. Public transport is so uncomfortable these days. We’re back to 100% capacity and half the passengers have their mask under their nose or chin, or worse, no mask at all.
If Dublin Bus was actually quicker than private transport, I’d be all for it. But what should be 20 mins from my flat turns into at least a 40 minute ordeal on a good day, and 80 minutes on a bad day.
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But car go vroom vrooom 🙁
You’ll need a ring road to make room for the tram.
Just going to say the obvious thing that cars can come from more destinations than a metro can
Metro works best with high density accommodation. City councils and opposition parties are currently opposed to high density development, and even if they weren’t, they would take a while to build.
And of course because of the lack of high density accommodation people have to commute from further away, making the car even more necessary.
Best we can do is a half-way house, of car some of the way, metro the rest.
Public transport wastes time
Okay, so let’s go with a metro…oh we did…oh we did years ago, oh no it’s literally decades behind it’s promised delivery dates. Ho-hum.
We live in a country that can’t even build a children’s hospital without turning it in to such a farce that it becomes the most expensive hospital in the world and being more expensive than the worlds tallest building…several levels of irony there given our relationship with tall buildings.
Also for some strange reason, there seems to be a fixation on the most expensive solution with the highest cost in terms of infrastructure…other countries get on just grand with [trolleybus systems.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus)
Basically as I see it, the Greens and others have taken it on themselves to be anti-car but without saying it publicly because they know well they’d get it in the neck for it. We now have a group of the population who can’t understand why the rest of us can’t just get the bus when there is no bus or why we can’t cycle 160k daily(one of them actually said this to me) to commute. But rather than put their position on the line and out for challenge, we now have an ongoing agenda to sabotage the only practical transport options we have. A large part of this will be the constant flying of kites of quixotic suggestions that magic solutions can solve all our problems leveraging on the ignorance of people in terms of just how hard building infrastructure is. A great example of this is the Galway city Gluas crowd, the ring road will now be challenged in court where delay comes in decades not years, and all the while they will be pretending we can magically just smash a massive piece of new infrastructure in to and through the city. Unlike the Nottingham light rail system, there’s no suggestion of designing it to reach out massively in to the surrounds of the city…and let’s be realistic, that’s nigh on impossible given our planning structures and ironically environmental designations.
So you’ll be told that if we just opposed what we actually can do and embrace what’s extremely impractical it’ll be the cure to all our woes. Going back to the metro…how long would it take in Galway: Decades. But as to more practical solutions like trolleybuses…not [monorail](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM) enough I’m afraid.
Would be great if cycles were included.
Look just accept the fact our country’s infrastructure is shit. Get a job in one of the half dozen professions that pay well enough to live in the city and just wait until you go from being pissed upon to pissing down on the next generation
People buy cars; the tax from cars and from petrol go to government; the government like tax and can spend it on stuff to keep them in government.
Vs
The government have to spend hundreds of billions on infrastructure that they mightn’t get to take credit for, because they probably won’t be in government when it’s completed.
This could be a reason why metros in this country won’t happen
No watch what happens when we add a convenor belt and a compactor to the equation.
I can’t smoke joints on my way to work in a tram though 😉
Ireland absolutely needs more rail but that doesn’t mean some places need more roads. Galway probably needs one.
Nice idea but our population density in most of the country isn’t high enough to support good public transport. Only in Dublin is it really good enough to support things like light rail and metros with the smaller cities getting by with a bus service after.
In rural Ireland cars are simply a necessity and that’s never going to change so long as the density is to low.
A 9m wide metro track isn’t enough either. There also have to be enough trains with enough carriages with enough capacity travelling fast enough and a high enough frequency.
That’s only 5 eggs per bloke per day
https://unevenearth.org/2018/08/the-social-ideology-of-the-motorcar/
The social ideology of the motorcar by Andre Gorz linked above is a fantastic essay that I’d encourage you all to read.
Cars really have to be done away with if we want livable cities.
When I’m in a car, I am at low risk of respiratory infections.
Galway needs a ring road.
Do you really think the government would give us a metro? Or even a Luas?
It’s cheaper for me and the missus to drive Into the city and pay for parking than it is to pay for the bus in and out. Driving is way more convenient and bad for the environment yet it’s the cheapest option.
Proper transport police are needed, with actual fucking enforcement. Public transport is so uncomfortable these days. We’re back to 100% capacity and half the passengers have their mask under their nose or chin, or worse, no mask at all.
If Dublin Bus was actually quicker than private transport, I’d be all for it. But what should be 20 mins from my flat turns into at least a 40 minute ordeal on a good day, and 80 minutes on a bad day.