This is an insidious demand – it will stall majorly because even if Sweden wants to do it, it might require changing the constitution. Which requires a new election. Which the current government doesn’t want since they just came to power and are impopular
In which European countries is it illegal to burn the Quran? And what does the specific law say about it? I’m genuinely curious.
Fuck religion and Fuck religious shits.
Erdogan can go fuck himself.
If we change Sweden the way that idiot wants us to change, then there’s nothing left to defend so then we don’t need Nato anyway.
Little man syndrome strikes again.
I hope Sweden never agrees to this, democratic countries should never bow to demands of backwater dictators with medieval views in the 21st century.
Europeans demand: make it illegal to lock up your political rivals on trumped-up charges.
If he’s such a great defender of islam now, why doesn’t he rather demand Winnie the Pooh to release Uyghur detainees from the concentration camps ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Never.
Freedom goes both ways.
Can’t have religious freedom if other are not allowed to burn your holy book.
That would be religious oppression.
To give some perspective on when it would even be possible to make a ban on burning the Koran:
4. In 2026, majority in the Riksdag must *still* agree that the law should be changed.
It is thus 2026 at the earliest that it is even possible to make a change in the law that prohibits burning religious books.
This perhaps gives an understanding of how strong a constitution is here in Sweden.
Turkey and Sweden have had an agreement, a signed contract, what was required for the Turkish government to accept Sweden’s NATO application.
We have pretty much done all of these things that we agreed upon.
This thing about forbidding burning a religious book was not in the contract, so that this is even a thing that he talks about is to break this contract.
So here’s my plan.
Make it illegal, enter NATO, then immediately make it legal again.
Then build a giant middle finger statue to commemorate the occasion.
So what about the current Nato countries where it’s legal to burn the Quran? (and was done not so long ago)
Erdogan is turning me into a Sweden supporter and defender, and I hate it, it’s not right.
I still say someone should invent a machine that prints and binds religious texts and dumps them directly into an incinerator, livestreamed 24/7. People could donate on the stream, and it would be like “This one is for ErdoganGoatFucker69!”
The Republic of Turkey is a secular state. Erdogan’s reflection of his personal Islamic ideas on the state administration is sad both for freedom of expression and for citizens.
Erdogan and Turkey can just fuck off. Where the hell is the rest of NATO in this mess? Are they really going to allow Turkey to make NATO look like a clusterfuck of clowns?
somebody should do something that would get me banned from reddit for saying it, it’s not like he’s eligible for a third term anyway
I didn’t know one of the Nato requirements was to have blasphemy laws…
This guy is a total demagogue.
What about pissing on it? Or submerging in acid? There are so many options.
For me wood and coal is holy. Make it illegal to burn it.
It makes me remember when that iranian fellow went to France in what was supposed to be a *diplomatic* event : he didn’t want to drink any wine of course, and this was respected, but he also wanted nobody else around did, too… In the very presidential palace of France. From a guy whose country makes foreign women wear a scarf because you must respect our laws.
The reception was canceled. That’s always the same problem with those guys : always whining “boohoo racist westerners who don’t respect our culture” while they absolutely don’t respect anything that is not their own culture.
Fuck turkey
We can burn any paper we like. GTFO, you little pocket dictator
Erdogan wanna be the arab defensor but he is only a bastard new Hitler trying to destroy the last lil pieces if democracy in turkey ..fuck him and Quran
How about you make it illegal to be a dumb fuck dictator then we’ll talk.
Jokes but this guy is happy to jeapardise the alliance for personal political and material gain (from putin). If Turkey doesn’t kick him we should kick turkey.
Never bow down to facists
But with what else would I fuel my delicious barbecue for the summer?
It’s funny how Turkey commented that it’s completely unreasonable to tie US sales of F-16’s to Turkey with Turkey approving Sweden and Finland to join NATO. As those two things are completely separate. But apparently it’s perfectly OK to demand Sweden to change their domestic legislation to satisfy Turkish whims.
Kick Turkey out.
Bring Sweden and Finland in.
NATO is an alliance of Western Democracies.
An Islamic dictatorship has no place in NATO.
(Of course, there are geostrategic consequences of this – Turkey would then immediately align with Russia and China agains the West – but in any case Turkey is an unreliable ally. We cannot trust them. They are not on the same page.)
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This is an insidious demand – it will stall majorly because even if Sweden wants to do it, it might require changing the constitution. Which requires a new election. Which the current government doesn’t want since they just came to power and are impopular
In which European countries is it illegal to burn the Quran? And what does the specific law say about it? I’m genuinely curious.
Fuck religion and Fuck religious shits.
Erdogan can go fuck himself.
If we change Sweden the way that idiot wants us to change, then there’s nothing left to defend so then we don’t need Nato anyway.
Little man syndrome strikes again.
I hope Sweden never agrees to this, democratic countries should never bow to demands of backwater dictators with medieval views in the 21st century.
Europeans demand: make it illegal to lock up your political rivals on trumped-up charges.
If he’s such a great defender of islam now, why doesn’t he rather demand Winnie the Pooh to release Uyghur detainees from the concentration camps ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Never.
Freedom goes both ways.
Can’t have religious freedom if other are not allowed to burn your holy book.
That would be religious oppression.
To give some perspective on when it would even be possible to make a ban on burning the Koran:
1. First, the majority of the [Riksdag](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riksdag) must agree that it should be changed before the next election.
2. Then it must be an elections.
3. The next election in Sweden is in 2026.
4. In 2026, majority in the Riksdag must *still* agree that the law should be changed.
It is thus 2026 at the earliest that it is even possible to make a change in the law that prohibits burning religious books.
This perhaps gives an understanding of how strong a constitution is here in Sweden.
Turkey and Sweden have had an agreement, a signed contract, what was required for the Turkish government to accept Sweden’s NATO application.
We have pretty much done all of these things that we agreed upon.
This thing about forbidding burning a religious book was not in the contract, so that this is even a thing that he talks about is to break this contract.
So here’s my plan.
Make it illegal, enter NATO, then immediately make it legal again.
Then build a giant middle finger statue to commemorate the occasion.
So what about the current Nato countries where it’s legal to burn the Quran? (and was done not so long ago)
Erdogan is turning me into a Sweden supporter and defender, and I hate it, it’s not right.
I still say someone should invent a machine that prints and binds religious texts and dumps them directly into an incinerator, livestreamed 24/7. People could donate on the stream, and it would be like “This one is for ErdoganGoatFucker69!”
The Republic of Turkey is a secular state. Erdogan’s reflection of his personal Islamic ideas on the state administration is sad both for freedom of expression and for citizens.
Erdogan and Turkey can just fuck off. Where the hell is the rest of NATO in this mess? Are they really going to allow Turkey to make NATO look like a clusterfuck of clowns?
somebody should do something that would get me banned from reddit for saying it, it’s not like he’s eligible for a third term anyway
I didn’t know one of the Nato requirements was to have blasphemy laws…
This guy is a total demagogue.
What about pissing on it? Or submerging in acid? There are so many options.
For me wood and coal is holy. Make it illegal to burn it.
It makes me remember when that iranian fellow went to France in what was supposed to be a *diplomatic* event : he didn’t want to drink any wine of course, and this was respected, but he also wanted nobody else around did, too… In the very presidential palace of France. From a guy whose country makes foreign women wear a scarf because you must respect our laws.
The reception was canceled. That’s always the same problem with those guys : always whining “boohoo racist westerners who don’t respect our culture” while they absolutely don’t respect anything that is not their own culture.
Fuck turkey
We can burn any paper we like. GTFO, you little pocket dictator
Erdogan wanna be the arab defensor but he is only a bastard new Hitler trying to destroy the last lil pieces if democracy in turkey ..fuck him and Quran
How about you make it illegal to be a dumb fuck dictator then we’ll talk.
Jokes but this guy is happy to jeapardise the alliance for personal political and material gain (from putin). If Turkey doesn’t kick him we should kick turkey.
Never bow down to facists
But with what else would I fuel my delicious barbecue for the summer?
It’s funny how Turkey commented that it’s completely unreasonable to tie US sales of F-16’s to Turkey with Turkey approving Sweden and Finland to join NATO. As those two things are completely separate. But apparently it’s perfectly OK to demand Sweden to change their domestic legislation to satisfy Turkish whims.
Kick Turkey out.
Bring Sweden and Finland in.
NATO is an alliance of Western Democracies.
An Islamic dictatorship has no place in NATO.
(Of course, there are geostrategic consequences of this – Turkey would then immediately align with Russia and China agains the West – but in any case Turkey is an unreliable ally. We cannot trust them. They are not on the same page.)