What is there to think about? I dont realy think about trash I got rid off years ago.
Primarily only people who have not lived in/been a part of the Soviet Union glamorise it and view it as an idyllic, non-oppressive system. Those who have actually experienced it can recognise it for what it is: a shitfest
A trash state that was corrupt to it’s core. Based on the systematic destruction of different nationalities via forbidding their language, their traditions, their culture and forcing onto them whatever you call that piece of shit USSR had created. Genocide committing assholes, that are no better (or worse) than the USA. I was happy to see it fall, but god damn, once the reality set in about how poor we are (as everything we worked towards to, went to the union).
Happy to see now it has changed.
With that being said, there were some positive things that came out of USSR – like the fact that we are less progressive thinking, so we accept less of the woke degenerate shit that is sometimes showed into faces of western Europeans.
Imagine how we fucked up nowadays, when peoples dreaming about future want return back in past🤷♂️
Hujna pēdējā
If all you know about the USSR is terror and autocracy, then your information bubble is as narrow as that of those who speak only positively about the USSR.
There’s a shitton of tankies primarly from western countries, who glorify and have wet dreams about soviet union and current chinese government.
Soviet Union was a different time, nevertheless, it was a total shit show, but modern russia beat that shit show but a huge margin so I can see why many want USSR back – it was simpler and better life for bottoms where government at least tried to look like they care.
But nobody in their right mind with even monkey brains wants Soviet Union back, that just show how dumb are those who crave it back.
I bet you ment soviet Onion.
Unlike Nazis that had the ideology, Soviets had a choice:
a: Stick to the peace treaty, in which Soviet Russia recognized the territory and independence of Baltic countries and let em leave in peace.
b: Occupy it, murder, rape and torture everyone that wanted to be free. Start the ethnic cleansing by deporting native people to Siberian gulags and replace those people with Russians. Start the Russification by banning and destroying everything regarding the culture of the Baltics. Raid the homes, burn the books, flags etc etc.
We all know which choice they made and for that we’ll never forgive those ‘ liberators and heroes’.
That’s my opinion as an Estonian. Sorry Latvians for invading your reddit but this topic gets my blood boiling.
When you burning down churches and turn them into factories, your country or imperialism is doomed and people cursed. That is way Soviet Union ceased to exist and people is still drinking and using drugs in many former countries.
Good system for people without ambition. Can work low level, easy jobs and earning 70 roubles when tram ticket was 0,03 roubles and expenses for an apartment was under 15 roubles/ month. Meanwhile hight level career people still got same stuff. No reaso for self development at all.
Why is reddit so full of communism posts right now? Russian trolls or is it just because I clicked on a few the algorithm is shoving it down my throat?
Anyway, the Soviet Union was literally worse than the nazis. It disgusts me that so many reddit tankies glorify the USSR or have fooled themselves into thinking that “true communism” can exist or would even be desirable.
The problem is that a lot of people form their opinions about it not based upon what it truly was, but what it might have been and people, who didn’t know better, were lead to believe it was. Basically propaganda and blatant lies. Believing Russian tales about what it was is the same as believing that all of the Ukrainian civilian infrastructure right now is deliberately being bombed to bits by mystical Ukrainian Nazis who worship the devil as part of some never ending year long false flag.
In other words – if people talk about fairy tale, imaginary USSR, that only existed in imaginary plane – I can see why some people might be attracted to it.
Problem is that tankies have thought about it for so long, that this positive straw man is what they take as measure, not the reality as it was on the ground.
And to add to it. If there ever was a nation that could theoretically bring this imaginary “fairy tale” world to life, it is most definitely not Russians. They are people who are blessed with reverse Midas touch. Everything they touch turns to shit.
What do I think about SU? Well. Soviet Union, namely, Soviet Russia is a regime the bunch of lefttist extremist-terrorists established after overthrowing legitimately elected parliament february duma and government. Yeltzin coup in nineties overthrowed last elected parliament of “soviet” russia. We can additionaly argue that later “lawful” actions does not establish lawfullness, if previous history is basically unlawful. But, ok, so it goes.
Where do we stand now, in todays situation? This regime is legitimate only as far the international community recognises it, and formally does not have any right to claim the heritage of previous formations, or claims to any previous territories. Somewhere like todays taliban in afganistan imo.
I don’t care about them as long as they stay only in their area. If they start taking over other countries and forcing people who don’t want to be a part of it, into it they can fuck right off.
Yes ofc i loved it!! why shouldn’t i?? /s
We still feel that SU mindset in workplaces and even households sometimes. Ive heard stories from my aunt when she was a teenager that at school she was talking some anti SU stuff during class and the teachers called her parents so she shuts up xd.
In some workplaces especially factories the bosses just dont care about u and they will overwork u without extra pay no humanity at all, messed up.
Zheleznij zanives.No info from outside.Isolated . Just Girbachove giwet some freedom.But them quikly owerpowerd him and making fun figure…Was sht and is sht to this time..Just some nice intelegent persons who are oppresed by gov.orgs
I think when people praise the food or job possibilities in the late USSR, they, most of the time, do only talk about these positives, as it truly was easier to get a better salary/food for less work/money in the USSR, and they don’t mean that overall their lives were so much better then.
You can praise aspects of Hitlers regime too – the industry/military and overall living standards after the Weimar Republic were much higher – while acknowledging that overall the regimes were harsh, and much more violent than regimes today (Federal Germany, or Latvian Republic), and we should be happy that they crashed and burned, because the cons much outweigh the pros.
It was a shith0le. Full of poor people. Brain drain of people either running away, grabbing a shovel up north or being cut down by the nazis (or bolsheviks).
What is more controversial and might bite your ear, is that the same nationalism (prevalent in sovok) is now very much well and alive in lv. With the same methods of information control, blocking foreign media, censorship, and laws to make it happen.
And the same convincing of the populous that there is a foreign enemy. Russia is bad. Pathetic.
shit show, corruption, no growth, debt, drinker nation, killed 30mil, ruined everything they touch
Kaka uz koka
No love for commie scum. Better dead than red.
My father and my mother lived in the Soviet Union. They said it wasn’t ideal but they had food,shelter and jobs. School was also accessible. But they did live in a rural area so there was none of the chaos that was in more major cities. I asked my grandmother about this yesterday and she preferred it that way. She said that back then she didn’t have to worry if she could find a job or if she would have food. It strongly depends on many factors but I cannot have an opinion on it since I have not experienced the life. Overall my father,mother and my grandmother didn’t like it per se but it was good life. Always had some sense of purpose, like you would line up at 5am for a chance to get some bananas or something exotic like that.
I’m not talking about the atrocities they committed, I’m more focused on the living conditions for an average citizen in those times. And from my experience almost all of the Russians I know hate the Soviet Union. I’ve been to Moscow many times and I consider it the City of Capitalism. Many hate the idea of communism because they couldn’t have the wealth they earned. Including me, I CANNOT stand the idea of communism
Highly developed with high standards or living… oh fuck…
My grandfather was disable person – he had only right leg. He had a car, Moskvitch that he bought around 1983. It had manual transmission, because there were really no options to get a car with automatic transmission. His car had a handle on the left from the steering wheel to operate the clutch – imagine the shitty process to accelerate swapping hands on the wheel to switch gears and operate the clutch. But no one heard that this could be any different.
Another relative had a Volga car (a marvelous review by a US guy so you have an impression: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuidQ9ang1Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuidQ9ang1Q)). But the fun part is that he brought it to the USSR from Kuba where he worked. Reasoning – export cars had better quality. Logistics, costs, common sense – who cares.
Of course USSR had some interesting sides – importance of money was lower then in a capitalistic society – there was no idea of private business, private property was kinda limited. Personal relations were more important. Or personal relations plus home-produced alcohol – that was means of payment in rural areas.
Oh, yes – shopping experience was… specific. Typically – separate shops for bread, dairy, vegetables. With queues in these.
Some things could be called good – due to lack of private cars people mostly used public transport – there was no traffic jams in cities. No advertisement on TV. Dairy products were in glass bottles that were repeatedly used. Low utilities costs – water, heating, etc – there we no gas or water counters in flats.
In overall – technologically undeveloped and inefficient country with not much incentives for people to improve and to things better. Many of those people got traumatized when the system broke and they met “the real world”. Actually, this trauma might be the cause of these dreams for old “innocent” times.
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Same as nazis
What is there to think about? I dont realy think about trash I got rid off years ago.
Primarily only people who have not lived in/been a part of the Soviet Union glamorise it and view it as an idyllic, non-oppressive system. Those who have actually experienced it can recognise it for what it is: a shitfest
A trash state that was corrupt to it’s core. Based on the systematic destruction of different nationalities via forbidding their language, their traditions, their culture and forcing onto them whatever you call that piece of shit USSR had created. Genocide committing assholes, that are no better (or worse) than the USA. I was happy to see it fall, but god damn, once the reality set in about how poor we are (as everything we worked towards to, went to the union).
Happy to see now it has changed.
With that being said, there were some positive things that came out of USSR – like the fact that we are less progressive thinking, so we accept less of the woke degenerate shit that is sometimes showed into faces of western Europeans.
Imagine how we fucked up nowadays, when peoples dreaming about future want return back in past🤷♂️
Hujna pēdējā
If all you know about the USSR is terror and autocracy, then your information bubble is as narrow as that of those who speak only positively about the USSR.
There’s a shitton of tankies primarly from western countries, who glorify and have wet dreams about soviet union and current chinese government.
Soviet Union was a different time, nevertheless, it was a total shit show, but modern russia beat that shit show but a huge margin so I can see why many want USSR back – it was simpler and better life for bottoms where government at least tried to look like they care.
But nobody in their right mind with even monkey brains wants Soviet Union back, that just show how dumb are those who crave it back.
I bet you ment soviet Onion.
Unlike Nazis that had the ideology, Soviets had a choice:
a: Stick to the peace treaty, in which Soviet Russia recognized the territory and independence of Baltic countries and let em leave in peace.
b: Occupy it, murder, rape and torture everyone that wanted to be free. Start the ethnic cleansing by deporting native people to Siberian gulags and replace those people with Russians. Start the Russification by banning and destroying everything regarding the culture of the Baltics. Raid the homes, burn the books, flags etc etc.
We all know which choice they made and for that we’ll never forgive those ‘ liberators and heroes’.
That’s my opinion as an Estonian. Sorry Latvians for invading your reddit but this topic gets my blood boiling.
When you burning down churches and turn them into factories, your country or imperialism is doomed and people cursed. That is way Soviet Union ceased to exist and people is still drinking and using drugs in many former countries.
Good system for people without ambition. Can work low level, easy jobs and earning 70 roubles when tram ticket was 0,03 roubles and expenses for an apartment was under 15 roubles/ month. Meanwhile hight level career people still got same stuff. No reaso for self development at all.
Why is reddit so full of communism posts right now? Russian trolls or is it just because I clicked on a few the algorithm is shoving it down my throat?
Anyway, the Soviet Union was literally worse than the nazis. It disgusts me that so many reddit tankies glorify the USSR or have fooled themselves into thinking that “true communism” can exist or would even be desirable.
The problem is that a lot of people form their opinions about it not based upon what it truly was, but what it might have been and people, who didn’t know better, were lead to believe it was. Basically propaganda and blatant lies. Believing Russian tales about what it was is the same as believing that all of the Ukrainian civilian infrastructure right now is deliberately being bombed to bits by mystical Ukrainian Nazis who worship the devil as part of some never ending year long false flag.
In other words – if people talk about fairy tale, imaginary USSR, that only existed in imaginary plane – I can see why some people might be attracted to it.
Problem is that tankies have thought about it for so long, that this positive straw man is what they take as measure, not the reality as it was on the ground.
And to add to it. If there ever was a nation that could theoretically bring this imaginary “fairy tale” world to life, it is most definitely not Russians. They are people who are blessed with reverse Midas touch. Everything they touch turns to shit.
What do I think about SU? Well. Soviet Union, namely, Soviet Russia is a regime the bunch of lefttist extremist-terrorists established after overthrowing legitimately elected parliament february duma and government. Yeltzin coup in nineties overthrowed last elected parliament of “soviet” russia. We can additionaly argue that later “lawful” actions does not establish lawfullness, if previous history is basically unlawful. But, ok, so it goes.
Where do we stand now, in todays situation? This regime is legitimate only as far the international community recognises it, and formally does not have any right to claim the heritage of previous formations, or claims to any previous territories. Somewhere like todays taliban in afganistan imo.
I don’t care about them as long as they stay only in their area. If they start taking over other countries and forcing people who don’t want to be a part of it, into it they can fuck right off.
Yes ofc i loved it!! why shouldn’t i?? /s
We still feel that SU mindset in workplaces and even households sometimes. Ive heard stories from my aunt when she was a teenager that at school she was talking some anti SU stuff during class and the teachers called her parents so she shuts up xd.
In some workplaces especially factories the bosses just dont care about u and they will overwork u without extra pay no humanity at all, messed up.
Zheleznij zanives.No info from outside.Isolated . Just Girbachove giwet some freedom.But them quikly owerpowerd him and making fun figure…Was sht and is sht to this time..Just some nice intelegent persons who are oppresed by gov.orgs
I think when people praise the food or job possibilities in the late USSR, they, most of the time, do only talk about these positives, as it truly was easier to get a better salary/food for less work/money in the USSR, and they don’t mean that overall their lives were so much better then.
You can praise aspects of Hitlers regime too – the industry/military and overall living standards after the Weimar Republic were much higher – while acknowledging that overall the regimes were harsh, and much more violent than regimes today (Federal Germany, or Latvian Republic), and we should be happy that they crashed and burned, because the cons much outweigh the pros.
It was a shith0le. Full of poor people. Brain drain of people either running away, grabbing a shovel up north or being cut down by the nazis (or bolsheviks).
What is more controversial and might bite your ear, is that the same nationalism (prevalent in sovok) is now very much well and alive in lv. With the same methods of information control, blocking foreign media, censorship, and laws to make it happen.
And the same convincing of the populous that there is a foreign enemy. Russia is bad. Pathetic.
shit show, corruption, no growth, debt, drinker nation, killed 30mil, ruined everything they touch
Kaka uz koka
No love for commie scum. Better dead than red.
My father and my mother lived in the Soviet Union. They said it wasn’t ideal but they had food,shelter and jobs. School was also accessible. But they did live in a rural area so there was none of the chaos that was in more major cities. I asked my grandmother about this yesterday and she preferred it that way. She said that back then she didn’t have to worry if she could find a job or if she would have food. It strongly depends on many factors but I cannot have an opinion on it since I have not experienced the life. Overall my father,mother and my grandmother didn’t like it per se but it was good life. Always had some sense of purpose, like you would line up at 5am for a chance to get some bananas or something exotic like that.
I’m not talking about the atrocities they committed, I’m more focused on the living conditions for an average citizen in those times. And from my experience almost all of the Russians I know hate the Soviet Union. I’ve been to Moscow many times and I consider it the City of Capitalism. Many hate the idea of communism because they couldn’t have the wealth they earned. Including me, I CANNOT stand the idea of communism
Highly developed with high standards or living… oh fuck…
My grandfather was disable person – he had only right leg. He had a car, Moskvitch that he bought around 1983. It had manual transmission, because there were really no options to get a car with automatic transmission. His car had a handle on the left from the steering wheel to operate the clutch – imagine the shitty process to accelerate swapping hands on the wheel to switch gears and operate the clutch. But no one heard that this could be any different.
Another relative had a Volga car (a marvelous review by a US guy so you have an impression: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuidQ9ang1Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuidQ9ang1Q)). But the fun part is that he brought it to the USSR from Kuba where he worked. Reasoning – export cars had better quality. Logistics, costs, common sense – who cares.
Of course USSR had some interesting sides – importance of money was lower then in a capitalistic society – there was no idea of private business, private property was kinda limited. Personal relations were more important. Or personal relations plus home-produced alcohol – that was means of payment in rural areas.
Oh, yes – shopping experience was… specific. Typically – separate shops for bread, dairy, vegetables. With queues in these.
Some things could be called good – due to lack of private cars people mostly used public transport – there was no traffic jams in cities. No advertisement on TV. Dairy products were in glass bottles that were repeatedly used. Low utilities costs – water, heating, etc – there we no gas or water counters in flats.
In overall – technologically undeveloped and inefficient country with not much incentives for people to improve and to things better. Many of those people got traumatized when the system broke and they met “the real world”. Actually, this trauma might be the cause of these dreams for old “innocent” times.