Good luck with that, they all come from great families.
The more people call this out the better. Good on them.
I’m so ashamed of my city that it has come to this. If you could manage to get some international media coverage please do, as it’s the only thing the powers that be here will pay any attention to. Or get your embassy to kick up.
Wasn’t there a big protest by the deliveroo drivers a year or two ago. Nothing happened. Government won’t do anything this time either.
I’m one such immigrant from another country. My opinion is that, no country should bring “strong laws” to control minors. Because punishment is not the way to go on them IMO. I hope that the exorbitant amount of tax money brought into the country by the same immigrants is used to improve the educational quality of the minors so that they behave better.
I don’t really see how tougher laws would change this situation.
The condition of growing up for these kids needs to be changed. These are not feral kids. They actually have families. That’s where the problem is happening.
Suspended sentence or not, youth diversion program or not, anyone guilty of a violent crime should lose any and all entitlement to social welfare (maybe earn it back once they have a certain number of PRSI stamps).
At some point we have to recognise that there’s a substantial population who can’t meet even the most basic obligation they have to society, and the response is that society should have no further obligations to them.
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>It’s a sad reality where we migrate legally, pay taxes and look forward to contributing to the community but we’ve got no legal protection and a system that’s biased. Even before a confrontation starts we know we are at a disadvantage because we’re here on a visa. The state looks at us as cash cows, paying exorbitant often more than twice fees for pursuing a master’s and then paying more tax than EU citizens ( Getting an IRP card is 300€ yearly ? Why 🙂 ) and then you realise you don’t even have legal protection.
>Absolutely condemning the incident but if it was an Irish / Eu person on the receiving end I bet the nature of the altercation would have been different and the response from the state too ! You could even retaliate and get away with it but that’s not really an option when you’re not caucasian.
The good news is that I don’t think the police response would be any different if the victim was Irish, so no bias there!
Parents of these kids have a lot to answer for.
The government fixing a problem they caused? Doubtful
Its an effect of disenfranchised, these kids come from shit so they act like shit. Of course there’s the rampant drug abuse that these kids watch from a young age and then get involved in because the drug dealers are the only ones with money in their areas.
Stricter laws will have little effect. Its about investing into communities
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How has Dublin gotten to this state? What is happening in Ireland?
We need a scrote hunter
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“It was particularly dissapointing that even a police complaint didn’t do any good and the only time I heard back (no calls were taken by the supposed officer in charge) after lodging an FIR was when they confirmed through a letter that they had hit a deadend and the investigation had been closed”
Gardaí are just not fit for purpose, ill-disciplined and lazy.
Shitty lenient judges and lack of actual consequences may play a part but ffs, Gardaí not even bothering their arses in the first place doesn’t help at all.
Gardai in Ballymun as an example last year were nowhere to be seen for the whole year and the previous two, when another Garda in the station made a protected whistle-blower complaint that his colleagues were turning up for their shifts, clocking in and then going home or to other jobs. It got a little paragraph in the newspaper then not a peep since and the Garda was forced out of the station and reassigned elsewhere.
The problem is you always have 1 or 2 scumbags leading a group. The bleeding heart simpletons will then come along and defend the leading scumbags. “Oh you can’t ruin his life ” etc. Instead of making an example you let him spread his ways. And then a dozen scumbags.
The reality is that some kids are a write off.
The youth know who the easy target is! Look foreign? They make a beeline for you! Knowing that the victim cannot retaliate. Witnessed too many assaults towards anybody visibly-different.
Good on them. This issue needs to be addressed
They should be damn well listened to, for all our sakes.
Scrote hunting should be legalised in Ireland. Maybe monthly purge nights would keep the numbers down.
They need resources..not to get their teeth kicked in.
I live in a part of the world where there’s comparatively little anti social behaviour from kids compared to home, and it’s because the public schools like the housing are mixed in terms of income, and every kid has a plethora of stuff to do everyday. How does society afford this? Money trees.. or, taxes taxes and more taxes.
About time. These people literally act with impunity.
I am an Asian living in Dublin. We had the opposite experience.
My son and another Asian kid were on their way from school when a grown man stopped them and started yelling nasty things like “Go back to your country, you ****”. These are just boys and there was nobody else around and they were terrified. They ran and got away but my son took a week to start sleeping properly again. They called the Garda immediately and they were asked “Are you OK now?”. They said yes because they had already gotten away. The guard said that’s good and put the phone down. There has been no follow-up that we know of.
These types of protests should be banned. Think of the trauma and emotional damage this might do to our little angels.
Sure they have no facilities, they are more or less forced to roam in packs attacking people and property.
Because the Irish won’t do a thing. Period.
Good for them. I’d protest with them – if I’d know. Dublin scumbags are the vermin of our city, it’s mortifying to hear about them accosting these folks
Given that youths face little to no repercussions for acts of hooliganism I think there should be financial responsibly put onto the parents. Yes its harsh and lets be honest we know the groups of people these kids come from are more often, (no not always) less then wealthy families, maybe amount can be based on tax bracket.
It would create more incentive to keep your kids from doing bad and maybe create revenue to put back into communities that need it, youth programs and the like.
Maybe?
Honestly, at this stage if they won’t apply appropriate sentencing or any other measures to combat this, just let the gards beat the fuck out of these wasters
In fairness the amount of abuse racial minorities get here is insane.
Oh look someone actually did a thing and surprise, they’re not from here orginally.
Why are we so…inert?
In another thread someone said this was going on forever. I don’t remember when I was a teenager, I hung around with rebellious types. We drank in the woods or in parks, smoked weed, occasionally did graffiti. Fights or ‘getting jumped’ did happen but was relatively rare and always with other teens. No one ever attacked adults minding their business.
Round em and stick them on an island ala lord of the scrote flies
Scrotes are something Ireland does not need. But sadly, the government don’t want to lift a finger to tackle the problem.
Honestly what we need is a proper police presents and less hands off bullshit with the local ferals, some of these fuckers thrive on violence and can only be kowtowed by the threat of greater violence in retaliation against them.
Sad that it should come to this but you cannot reason with those who are essentially of a predatory mindset.
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Good luck with that, they all come from great families.
The more people call this out the better. Good on them.
I’m so ashamed of my city that it has come to this. If you could manage to get some international media coverage please do, as it’s the only thing the powers that be here will pay any attention to. Or get your embassy to kick up.
Wasn’t there a big protest by the deliveroo drivers a year or two ago. Nothing happened. Government won’t do anything this time either.
I’m one such immigrant from another country. My opinion is that, no country should bring “strong laws” to control minors. Because punishment is not the way to go on them IMO. I hope that the exorbitant amount of tax money brought into the country by the same immigrants is used to improve the educational quality of the minors so that they behave better.
I don’t really see how tougher laws would change this situation.
The condition of growing up for these kids needs to be changed. These are not feral kids. They actually have families. That’s where the problem is happening.
Suspended sentence or not, youth diversion program or not, anyone guilty of a violent crime should lose any and all entitlement to social welfare (maybe earn it back once they have a certain number of PRSI stamps).
At some point we have to recognise that there’s a substantial population who can’t meet even the most basic obligation they have to society, and the response is that society should have no further obligations to them.
One of the comments
>It’s a sad reality where we migrate legally, pay taxes and look forward to contributing to the community but we’ve got no legal protection and a system that’s biased. Even before a confrontation starts we know we are at a disadvantage because we’re here on a visa. The state looks at us as cash cows, paying exorbitant often more than twice fees for pursuing a master’s and then paying more tax than EU citizens ( Getting an IRP card is 300€ yearly ? Why 🙂 ) and then you realise you don’t even have legal protection.
>Absolutely condemning the incident but if it was an Irish / Eu person on the receiving end I bet the nature of the altercation would have been different and the response from the state too ! You could even retaliate and get away with it but that’s not really an option when you’re not caucasian.
The good news is that I don’t think the police response would be any different if the victim was Irish, so no bias there!
Parents of these kids have a lot to answer for.
The government fixing a problem they caused? Doubtful
Its an effect of disenfranchised, these kids come from shit so they act like shit. Of course there’s the rampant drug abuse that these kids watch from a young age and then get involved in because the drug dealers are the only ones with money in their areas.
Stricter laws will have little effect. Its about investing into communities
[removed]
How has Dublin gotten to this state? What is happening in Ireland?
We need a scrote hunter
[removed]
“It was particularly dissapointing that even a police complaint didn’t do any good and the only time I heard back (no calls were taken by the supposed officer in charge) after lodging an FIR was when they confirmed through a letter that they had hit a deadend and the investigation had been closed”
Gardaí are just not fit for purpose, ill-disciplined and lazy.
Shitty lenient judges and lack of actual consequences may play a part but ffs, Gardaí not even bothering their arses in the first place doesn’t help at all.
Gardai in Ballymun as an example last year were nowhere to be seen for the whole year and the previous two, when another Garda in the station made a protected whistle-blower complaint that his colleagues were turning up for their shifts, clocking in and then going home or to other jobs. It got a little paragraph in the newspaper then not a peep since and the Garda was forced out of the station and reassigned elsewhere.
The problem is you always have 1 or 2 scumbags leading a group. The bleeding heart simpletons will then come along and defend the leading scumbags. “Oh you can’t ruin his life ” etc. Instead of making an example you let him spread his ways. And then a dozen scumbags.
The reality is that some kids are a write off.
The youth know who the easy target is! Look foreign? They make a beeline for you! Knowing that the victim cannot retaliate. Witnessed too many assaults towards anybody visibly-different.
Good on them. This issue needs to be addressed
They should be damn well listened to, for all our sakes.
Scrote hunting should be legalised in Ireland. Maybe monthly purge nights would keep the numbers down.
They need resources..not to get their teeth kicked in.
I live in a part of the world where there’s comparatively little anti social behaviour from kids compared to home, and it’s because the public schools like the housing are mixed in terms of income, and every kid has a plethora of stuff to do everyday. How does society afford this? Money trees.. or, taxes taxes and more taxes.
About time. These people literally act with impunity.
I am an Asian living in Dublin. We had the opposite experience.
My son and another Asian kid were on their way from school when a grown man stopped them and started yelling nasty things like “Go back to your country, you ****”. These are just boys and there was nobody else around and they were terrified. They ran and got away but my son took a week to start sleeping properly again. They called the Garda immediately and they were asked “Are you OK now?”. They said yes because they had already gotten away. The guard said that’s good and put the phone down. There has been no follow-up that we know of.
These types of protests should be banned. Think of the trauma and emotional damage this might do to our little angels.
Sure they have no facilities, they are more or less forced to roam in packs attacking people and property.
Because the Irish won’t do a thing. Period.
Good for them. I’d protest with them – if I’d know. Dublin scumbags are the vermin of our city, it’s mortifying to hear about them accosting these folks
Given that youths face little to no repercussions for acts of hooliganism I think there should be financial responsibly put onto the parents. Yes its harsh and lets be honest we know the groups of people these kids come from are more often, (no not always) less then wealthy families, maybe amount can be based on tax bracket.
It would create more incentive to keep your kids from doing bad and maybe create revenue to put back into communities that need it, youth programs and the like.
Maybe?
Honestly, at this stage if they won’t apply appropriate sentencing or any other measures to combat this, just let the gards beat the fuck out of these wasters
In fairness the amount of abuse racial minorities get here is insane.
Oh look someone actually did a thing and surprise, they’re not from here orginally.
Why are we so…inert?
In another thread someone said this was going on forever. I don’t remember when I was a teenager, I hung around with rebellious types. We drank in the woods or in parks, smoked weed, occasionally did graffiti. Fights or ‘getting jumped’ did happen but was relatively rare and always with other teens. No one ever attacked adults minding their business.
Round em and stick them on an island ala lord of the scrote flies
Scrotes are something Ireland does not need. But sadly, the government don’t want to lift a finger to tackle the problem.
Honestly what we need is a proper police presents and less hands off bullshit with the local ferals, some of these fuckers thrive on violence and can only be kowtowed by the threat of greater violence in retaliation against them.
Sad that it should come to this but you cannot reason with those who are essentially of a predatory mindset.