For one person? Yes, definitely. For a whole family? No.
Its sadly the Standard in “Pflegebranche”
Sufficient…. depends on your lifestyle and how many mouth you have to feed and so on.
I would say so, especially the extra payments.
Seems pretty standard.
I’d be curious about the 25 days of holidays though, because nursing is usually a job with a 7 day week, so holidays should either be a set amount of hours or be given as 5×7=35 days because the mandated minimum holidays is 5 whole weeks, regardless of working hours.
Depends on where you you are located
In Salzburg, Inssbruck or Bregenz this will be hard
in St Pölten, Wels or some other weird place this will suffice for a modest standard of living, but it will not be a lot of fun
If you plan to live with your family in vienna, where the rent can be up to EUR 1000,- it will be harder.
If you will live in the landside, where rent will be 500-800€ it could be a lot easier.
If you don’t buy luxury foods/products a normal life is possible with that amount of money.
On the other hand, if your wife starts to work too, you will have a pretty solid life here, since you would have a net income of above EUR 3000,- which is pretty solid for a 3-person household.
EDIT: also don’t forget, in the salary included is already the health and retirement insurance including also the insurance if you loose your job. So these additional security should maybe be accounted for, when calculating life costs.
Depending on your definition on decent but it should be ok for a family of 3.
Additional you can get Familienbeihilfe for your kid.
if you have a chuld you get an extra of ~150/month from the government plus a tax reduction of 2.000 per year.
depends a lot on different things. if you are lucky to find a decent and cheap flat (they exists but they are hard to get) and you don’t need a car, then you can easily have a decent living!
Yes it is!!
it’s fine
If I may ask…. what company is this. A hospital or nursing home?
Seems alright for pflege standards
If you are 2 (working) adults and 1 child, it will definitly be enougth, if you are 2 children and 1 working adult it will still be possible, but you probably won’t have anything left at the end of the month. In any case you should check out the Kinderbeihilfe (I think it’s 150€/cild/month)
That’s a pretty average salary. It is considered acceptable, although in my personal opinion workers in the medical field are definitely underpaid here in Austria for how hard/important their jobs are.
It’s absolutel sufficient for a decent living, if you live alone. If you have a partner that isn’t working at all, it will be difficult.
you can survive but its not amazing. if you were on your own i would say easily doable.
Damn, they are really gettin desperate for new employees. When I quit at the same job position half a year ago, starting salary was 100€ less.
For a family of three it’s tight, but it’s not impossible. You probably also won’t get a higher playing job as a Pflegefachassistent, no one wants to pay more than necessary. Nursing doesn’t have a good lobby in Austria sadly.
As a part-time employee who is also going to school, I bring home about half of what you are inquiring about. And I seem to be doing just fine.
Granted, I live outside the city, have no friends, and no decent woman seems to want to date me.
For one person it is enough if you find an affordable flat (around 600 €/month, not counting energy and other bills like internet etc.), for a family of three where this is the only income it’s definitely not enough…then again it depends on the circumstances and needs but I think it would not be a healthy long-term decision.
Sadly, care workers are vastly udnerpaid for the work they do in Austria. I’d wish we payed them more.
But yes, this is a pretty standard salary. Liveable for 3 but you’ll count on every penny you have
It is sufficient for a decent living in the smaller towns.
The base income is based on 40h a week during normal office hours. The money is in the add ons to the hourly wages for night shifts, weekends and overtime and time outside the base 8 a day.
This is a shitty Payment, dont accept this. Im also working in Pflege, earning 3.300 Euro Brutto per month… dont sell yourself under worth. We have a crazy Staff shortage in Pflege you can litterally demand more Payment.
Just a notice:
Austrians tend to lament everything and nothing is ever good enough.
Also: at r/Austria, there are disproportionately many people working in IT, which have way above-average salaries, so their view of what is a “decent living/income” may diverge from the average family.
Take every statement in here at least with a little grain of salt.
May ask you where you’re from? Just beacuse I’m curious what your education is, and if you meet the qualifications needed as a Pflegefachassistenz? Or maybe if you could work as DGKP, because this means more money for you 🙂
Just because the model of PFA’s is pretty new to Austria (since 2016) and I didn’t know there was an equivalent. I’m sorry if this too personal for you, I’m really just curious 🙂
I get close to 2k netto (24h per week in the bulding, 6h per week homeoffice, 4 workdays a week), no kids, 2 people in the household. I paid half of the monthly Stoff like energy and rent and most of the groceries + going out or ordering food, tobacco, fresh meat and fruits, netflix, Amazon, HBO, etc.
And for myself i buy monthly new games on steam or Switch, some clothing, stuff for my Hobby, etc…
I manage to save between 200-400€ each month.
We also did like 2 vacations abroad per year and a way more vacations inside of Austria.
Now both of US have an income, we live more or less the Same but can save way more.
But 3 children change the whole thing of course. So it might be below average for a 5 Person household
In Vorarlberg we have a different Kollektivvertrag(collective contract) in this line of work(sozialberufe). You’ll get a lot more money, also we have 30 days paid vacation instead of 25 days. But cost of living is also higher.
Alternatively you could live in vorarlberg and work in switzerland or liechtenstein. Then you could easily live on one income with a family of three.
Edit: Right now, you’ll get a job anywhere in this line of work. Staff shortages, staff shortages everywhere.
1 person:
Vienna, Salzburg, Tyrol and Vorarlberg: No
Everywhere else in Austria: Yes
2+ persons if only 1 is earning:
Everywhere in Austria: No
Rent is way higher in Vienna, Salzburg, Tyrol and Vorarlberg than everwhere else here, keep that in mind.
I saw that you are considering moving to Graz and work there at Kages.
Graz has regions with high rents and regions with relatively low rent. Graz has also quite a lot of Kages hospitals, located in regions of Graz with high rent as well as these with low rent, so I have no idea where you are planning to start. What Graz is well known for though is a great public transport infrastructure which is also very affordable. I would recommend you to look for apartements in cheaper regions of Graz like Liebenau, Jakomini, Puntigam, Gries or Lend. If your place of work is near a railway station, you can consider moving to one of the towns around Graz like Gratkorn, Gleisdorf or Leibnitz and commute via train. Rent shoould be lower there and the apartements usually bigger. In any case, your husband should try to find work too. Austria, unfortunately is not a country where one average salary earner (and your posted salary would be average) can feed a family of 4 without struggling. If he cant communicate in German yet, there are workplaces for him where language is not required like cleaning or cooking jobs. Let me know if you have any further questions, I am from Graz and I know working and migration landscape here very well.
PS: There are also hospital jobs en masse in all sorts of small towns in Austria which have hospitals. They are paid the same amount of money as in Graz due to the collective worker contracts, but rent is significantly lower in these smaller towns than in and around Graz. Example of small towns with large hospitals for example just in Styria alone (the region where Graz is located): Low rents: Leoben, Bruck an der Mur, Fürstenfeld, Hartberg, Voitsberg. Very low rents (50%+ lower rent compared to Graz): Mürzzuschlag, Feldbach, Rottenmann, Mautern.You should easily be able to find a job anywhere there, each of the towns have schools for your children and you will spend way less money on rent and also you have cleaner air, less noise and live closer to nature than compared to Graz.
Celery in Austria is pretty decent
According to google it looks like a normal salary for the role.
Whether it is sufficient for a decent living depends on your definition of decent living, with the extra allowances you will end up slightly above the average Austrian wage.
You will also get money from the state per child. It is called Familienbeihilfe. The most important thing is to find a place where the rent is low and that the flat is very well isolated. If the isolation is poor, your heating bill will make you poor.
As to the salary: there is not much room, the salary for a nurse is more or less standardised. Of course, if you are good at negotioating, you might be able to raise it a little bit, but then focus on negotiating additional money, called bonus.
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For one person? Yes, definitely. For a whole family? No.
Its sadly the Standard in “Pflegebranche”
Sufficient…. depends on your lifestyle and how many mouth you have to feed and so on.
I would say so, especially the extra payments.
Seems pretty standard.
I’d be curious about the 25 days of holidays though, because nursing is usually a job with a 7 day week, so holidays should either be a set amount of hours or be given as 5×7=35 days because the mandated minimum holidays is 5 whole weeks, regardless of working hours.
Depends on where you you are located
In Salzburg, Inssbruck or Bregenz this will be hard
in St Pölten, Wels or some other weird place this will suffice for a modest standard of living, but it will not be a lot of fun
If you plan to live with your family in vienna, where the rent can be up to EUR 1000,- it will be harder.
If you will live in the landside, where rent will be 500-800€ it could be a lot easier.
If you don’t buy luxury foods/products a normal life is possible with that amount of money.
On the other hand, if your wife starts to work too, you will have a pretty solid life here, since you would have a net income of above EUR 3000,- which is pretty solid for a 3-person household.
EDIT: also don’t forget, in the salary included is already the health and retirement insurance including also the insurance if you loose your job. So these additional security should maybe be accounted for, when calculating life costs.
Depending on your definition on decent but it should be ok for a family of 3.
Additional you can get Familienbeihilfe for your kid.
if you have a chuld you get an extra of ~150/month from the government plus a tax reduction of 2.000 per year.
depends a lot on different things. if you are lucky to find a decent and cheap flat (they exists but they are hard to get) and you don’t need a car, then you can easily have a decent living!
Yes it is!!
it’s fine
If I may ask…. what company is this. A hospital or nursing home?
Seems alright for pflege standards
If you are 2 (working) adults and 1 child, it will definitly be enougth, if you are 2 children and 1 working adult it will still be possible, but you probably won’t have anything left at the end of the month. In any case you should check out the Kinderbeihilfe (I think it’s 150€/cild/month)
That’s a pretty average salary. It is considered acceptable, although in my personal opinion workers in the medical field are definitely underpaid here in Austria for how hard/important their jobs are.
It’s absolutel sufficient for a decent living, if you live alone. If you have a partner that isn’t working at all, it will be difficult.
you can survive but its not amazing. if you were on your own i would say easily doable.
Damn, they are really gettin desperate for new employees. When I quit at the same job position half a year ago, starting salary was 100€ less.
For a family of three it’s tight, but it’s not impossible. You probably also won’t get a higher playing job as a Pflegefachassistent, no one wants to pay more than necessary. Nursing doesn’t have a good lobby in Austria sadly.
As a part-time employee who is also going to school, I bring home about half of what you are inquiring about. And I seem to be doing just fine.
Granted, I live outside the city, have no friends, and no decent woman seems to want to date me.
For one person it is enough if you find an affordable flat (around 600 €/month, not counting energy and other bills like internet etc.), for a family of three where this is the only income it’s definitely not enough…then again it depends on the circumstances and needs but I think it would not be a healthy long-term decision.
Sadly, care workers are vastly udnerpaid for the work they do in Austria. I’d wish we payed them more.
But yes, this is a pretty standard salary. Liveable for 3 but you’ll count on every penny you have
It is sufficient for a decent living in the smaller towns.
The base income is based on 40h a week during normal office hours. The money is in the add ons to the hourly wages for night shifts, weekends and overtime and time outside the base 8 a day.
This is a shitty Payment, dont accept this. Im also working in Pflege, earning 3.300 Euro Brutto per month… dont sell yourself under worth. We have a crazy Staff shortage in Pflege you can litterally demand more Payment.
Just a notice:
Austrians tend to lament everything and nothing is ever good enough.
Also: at r/Austria, there are disproportionately many people working in IT, which have way above-average salaries, so their view of what is a “decent living/income” may diverge from the average family.
Take every statement in here at least with a little grain of salt.
May ask you where you’re from? Just beacuse I’m curious what your education is, and if you meet the qualifications needed as a Pflegefachassistenz? Or maybe if you could work as DGKP, because this means more money for you 🙂
Just because the model of PFA’s is pretty new to Austria (since 2016) and I didn’t know there was an equivalent. I’m sorry if this too personal for you, I’m really just curious 🙂
I get close to 2k netto (24h per week in the bulding, 6h per week homeoffice, 4 workdays a week), no kids, 2 people in the household. I paid half of the monthly Stoff like energy and rent and most of the groceries + going out or ordering food, tobacco, fresh meat and fruits, netflix, Amazon, HBO, etc.
And for myself i buy monthly new games on steam or Switch, some clothing, stuff for my Hobby, etc…
I manage to save between 200-400€ each month.
We also did like 2 vacations abroad per year and a way more vacations inside of Austria.
Now both of US have an income, we live more or less the Same but can save way more.
But 3 children change the whole thing of course. So it might be below average for a 5 Person household
In Vorarlberg we have a different Kollektivvertrag(collective contract) in this line of work(sozialberufe). You’ll get a lot more money, also we have 30 days paid vacation instead of 25 days. But cost of living is also higher.
Alternatively you could live in vorarlberg and work in switzerland or liechtenstein. Then you could easily live on one income with a family of three.
Edit: Right now, you’ll get a job anywhere in this line of work. Staff shortages, staff shortages everywhere.
1 person:
Vienna, Salzburg, Tyrol and Vorarlberg: No
Everywhere else in Austria: Yes
2+ persons if only 1 is earning:
Everywhere in Austria: No
Rent is way higher in Vienna, Salzburg, Tyrol and Vorarlberg than everwhere else here, keep that in mind.
I saw that you are considering moving to Graz and work there at Kages.
Graz has regions with high rents and regions with relatively low rent. Graz has also quite a lot of Kages hospitals, located in regions of Graz with high rent as well as these with low rent, so I have no idea where you are planning to start. What Graz is well known for though is a great public transport infrastructure which is also very affordable. I would recommend you to look for apartements in cheaper regions of Graz like Liebenau, Jakomini, Puntigam, Gries or Lend. If your place of work is near a railway station, you can consider moving to one of the towns around Graz like Gratkorn, Gleisdorf or Leibnitz and commute via train. Rent shoould be lower there and the apartements usually bigger. In any case, your husband should try to find work too. Austria, unfortunately is not a country where one average salary earner (and your posted salary would be average) can feed a family of 4 without struggling. If he cant communicate in German yet, there are workplaces for him where language is not required like cleaning or cooking jobs. Let me know if you have any further questions, I am from Graz and I know working and migration landscape here very well.
PS: There are also hospital jobs en masse in all sorts of small towns in Austria which have hospitals. They are paid the same amount of money as in Graz due to the collective worker contracts, but rent is significantly lower in these smaller towns than in and around Graz. Example of small towns with large hospitals for example just in Styria alone (the region where Graz is located): Low rents: Leoben, Bruck an der Mur, Fürstenfeld, Hartberg, Voitsberg. Very low rents (50%+ lower rent compared to Graz): Mürzzuschlag, Feldbach, Rottenmann, Mautern.You should easily be able to find a job anywhere there, each of the towns have schools for your children and you will spend way less money on rent and also you have cleaner air, less noise and live closer to nature than compared to Graz.
Celery in Austria is pretty decent
According to google it looks like a normal salary for the role.
Whether it is sufficient for a decent living depends on your definition of decent living, with the extra allowances you will end up slightly above the average Austrian wage.
You will also get money from the state per child. It is called Familienbeihilfe. The most important thing is to find a place where the rent is low and that the flat is very well isolated. If the isolation is poor, your heating bill will make you poor.
As to the salary: there is not much room, the salary for a nurse is more or less standardised. Of course, if you are good at negotioating, you might be able to raise it a little bit, but then focus on negotiating additional money, called bonus.