*If it concerned a play with five white guys that they’d held open auditions for, everything would have been fine. But you can’t ban people right from the start*
That is so arbitrary ha, they could have just had open audition and then picked 5 men anyway???
The production team was apparently majority women and had trans members too, while the estate of Beckett makes it mandatory that the 5 characters all be played by men and have sued productions that deviated in the past. The university’s policy made this into an unwinnable situation where everyone on the team, not just the 5 actors, lost.
Fecking wimen (I’m not sure if I’m being ironic)
It’s political incorrectness gone mad! Seriously though if this is the cast iron rule of the Beckett estate and they are very active protecting it then tough. The woke won’t see Waiting for Godot until 2058.
The revisionists will have their work cut out
>“We as a university stand for an open inclusive community where it is not appropriate to exclude others, on any basis.”
Does this mean a white actor can play the part of a black man now, or is that too inclusive?
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A woman can play the tree
Maybe the thinking is – that if people stop putting on Beckett plays the estate might change the rule (assuming they have the right to do it) and open it to all.
Beckett is mind numbing. Stare at a wall for a couple of hours. Same effect.
> “[Beckett] explicitly stated that this play should be performed by five men. Moving forward, times have changed. And that the idea that only men are suitable for this role is outdated and even discriminatory,” university press officer Elies Kouwenhoven said.
braindead. and notice how one sided it always is. white man = bad, everything else = good
Imagine respecting the creators wishes, instead of pushing your ideology? Heaven’s above!
I’m guessing its ok to have all females cast in the vagina monologues though? Its getting old now, all this political correctness, we’re gonna be left with nothing but dull, grey sludge.. pathetic.
Apply to logic to anything else and its obvious how stupid it is.
Also, who are these people to claim its outdated. They have no idea why the playwrite set those restrictions.
Key point here is that Beckett and his estate are being weird by insisting that it be an all male cast.
The university definitely missed the mark on their decision but ultimately none of it would be an issue if not for Beckett being discriminatory. The french ruling seems like the ideal solution.
Productions can have any cast as long as they read out a statement saying Beckett wouldn’t be happy with it.
Fucking ridiculous. Policing who stars in plays or who works in production is pandering to busy bodies
How dare they hire a man to play a man!!! 🤔🙄
Solution: cast Godot as female
>“If it concerned a play with five white guys that they’d held open auditions for, everything would have been fine.”
No it wouldn’t because they still would’ve gotten shit for not casting non-white people.
“All these ethnic people you auditioned and you STILL casted white males?”
This was a complete lose-lose situation for everyone involved in the production.
There’s a production cast post around where I live looking for a redheaded woman for a period movie. As a Thai black-hair male, should I apply? Working in the creative field myself, a bit tired to see creativity get altered by what fans/people want, not only in race or gender. Let the creatives be creative.
Seems like a silly case to turn into a culture war PoLiTiCaL cOrReCtNeSs GoNe MaD flashpoint. The director chose to stage a play that specifically went against university policy; the university apparently wasn’t even aware of what was happening until rehearsals were almost over. A five-minute meeting early on in the process that went, “You can cast whoever you want, but you have to let other people audition if they want to,” would have averted this entire thing.
Thought this was an Onion/warerfors whispers article.
How fuckin obtuse can they be jessausss
This is what happens when blind ideology replaces reason. Yes inclusivity is good but not at the expense of reason and common sense.
Can these idiots please just leave us all & Beckett alone. Fup off and write your own plays then you can cast whoever you want.
Is this in the Netherlands? What about zwart piet?!
So they tried to put on a play in probably the only place it wouldn’t be allowed… This has a scent of Mel Brooks about it.
First of all, that’s fucking obnoxious.
Secondly, what an awful play. I saw it several years ago, and it was the most boring, artsy-fartsy shite I’ve ever seen in my life. I get it, it’s just shite.
Meanwhile in the real world, trans people just want fair access to healthcare without multi-year waiting lists.
Anybody putting on a Beckett play should know before hand that Beckett himself was very protective of his work being exactly as he wrote it. There’s a famous case of him being enraged that Estragons trousers not falling the whole way down when he goes to hang himself. This should be common knowledge. I’m saying that when putting on a work just fucking use what characters are in the play. I don’t want to see 5 women in Godot because that’s not the play the same way I wouldn’t want to see riders to the sea performed in perfect Oxford English.
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*If it concerned a play with five white guys that they’d held open auditions for, everything would have been fine. But you can’t ban people right from the start*
That is so arbitrary ha, they could have just had open audition and then picked 5 men anyway???
The production team was apparently majority women and had trans members too, while the estate of Beckett makes it mandatory that the 5 characters all be played by men and have sued productions that deviated in the past. The university’s policy made this into an unwinnable situation where everyone on the team, not just the 5 actors, lost.
Fecking wimen (I’m not sure if I’m being ironic)
It’s political incorrectness gone mad! Seriously though if this is the cast iron rule of the Beckett estate and they are very active protecting it then tough. The woke won’t see Waiting for Godot until 2058.
The revisionists will have their work cut out
>“We as a university stand for an open inclusive community where it is not appropriate to exclude others, on any basis.”
Does this mean a white actor can play the part of a black man now, or is that too inclusive?
[deleted]
A woman can play the tree
Maybe the thinking is – that if people stop putting on Beckett plays the estate might change the rule (assuming they have the right to do it) and open it to all.
Beckett is mind numbing. Stare at a wall for a couple of hours. Same effect.
> “[Beckett] explicitly stated that this play should be performed by five men. Moving forward, times have changed. And that the idea that only men are suitable for this role is outdated and even discriminatory,” university press officer Elies Kouwenhoven said.
braindead. and notice how one sided it always is. white man = bad, everything else = good
Imagine respecting the creators wishes, instead of pushing your ideology? Heaven’s above!
I’m guessing its ok to have all females cast in the vagina monologues though? Its getting old now, all this political correctness, we’re gonna be left with nothing but dull, grey sludge.. pathetic.
Apply to logic to anything else and its obvious how stupid it is.
Also, who are these people to claim its outdated. They have no idea why the playwrite set those restrictions.
Key point here is that Beckett and his estate are being weird by insisting that it be an all male cast.
The university definitely missed the mark on their decision but ultimately none of it would be an issue if not for Beckett being discriminatory. The french ruling seems like the ideal solution.
Productions can have any cast as long as they read out a statement saying Beckett wouldn’t be happy with it.
Fucking ridiculous. Policing who stars in plays or who works in production is pandering to busy bodies
How dare they hire a man to play a man!!! 🤔🙄
Solution: cast Godot as female
>“If it concerned a play with five white guys that they’d held open auditions for, everything would have been fine.”
No it wouldn’t because they still would’ve gotten shit for not casting non-white people.
“All these ethnic people you auditioned and you STILL casted white males?”
This was a complete lose-lose situation for everyone involved in the production.
There’s a production cast post around where I live looking for a redheaded woman for a period movie. As a Thai black-hair male, should I apply? Working in the creative field myself, a bit tired to see creativity get altered by what fans/people want, not only in race or gender. Let the creatives be creative.
Seems like a silly case to turn into a culture war PoLiTiCaL cOrReCtNeSs GoNe MaD flashpoint. The director chose to stage a play that specifically went against university policy; the university apparently wasn’t even aware of what was happening until rehearsals were almost over. A five-minute meeting early on in the process that went, “You can cast whoever you want, but you have to let other people audition if they want to,” would have averted this entire thing.
Thought this was an Onion/warerfors whispers article.
How fuckin obtuse can they be jessausss
This is what happens when blind ideology replaces reason. Yes inclusivity is good but not at the expense of reason and common sense.
Can these idiots please just leave us all & Beckett alone. Fup off and write your own plays then you can cast whoever you want.
Is this in the Netherlands? What about zwart piet?!
So they tried to put on a play in probably the only place it wouldn’t be allowed… This has a scent of Mel Brooks about it.
First of all, that’s fucking obnoxious.
Secondly, what an awful play. I saw it several years ago, and it was the most boring, artsy-fartsy shite I’ve ever seen in my life. I get it, it’s just shite.
Meanwhile in the real world, trans people just want fair access to healthcare without multi-year waiting lists.
Anybody putting on a Beckett play should know before hand that Beckett himself was very protective of his work being exactly as he wrote it. There’s a famous case of him being enraged that Estragons trousers not falling the whole way down when he goes to hang himself. This should be common knowledge. I’m saying that when putting on a work just fucking use what characters are in the play. I don’t want to see 5 women in Godot because that’s not the play the same way I wouldn’t want to see riders to the sea performed in perfect Oxford English.