Disgusting, is anything sacred with this government?
Didn’t this happen before? I want to say when Theresa May was PM.
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They do know bees are essential for humans’ survival I hope
There may well be corruption afoot here. Those pesticides were BIG money makers that farms became dependant on.
The price and limited stock of fertilizer may also have been a factor. If yields are lower, taking an extra hit from pests may be critical.
Short term think continues. Nothing matters past next election because it won’t be their problem to fix
It’s going to be this kind of headlines for a while 🙂
We’re not adapting to a future with less energy and flux of matter.
It’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportion.
Give what’s happening with every factory, be it in the UK, in the USA or in France, it’s a sad joke 🙂 We’re polluting everything, us humans included.
I wonder when the fertility rate will be so low we’ll be like “Oh my, how can this be ?” ; “We need to make more studies to know which of the 1000s of chemicals we ingest is causing this”; “Oh shit, it’s half of them”; “Oh well, this is goodbye.”.
Once again, the BBC failing to differentiate between measures only applying to England and those applying to the whole of the UK. It’s almost as if they don’t want you to notice the differences in approach.
Its a myth that the UK cares about bees etc.
Try and get someone to leave some dandelions in their fetish-level control of their lawn.
If you use weedkiller you dont care about insects. There’s no such thing as a weed or a poison that knows exactly which plants or animals to kill.
These pesticides was a massive lea omg point for UK farmers to leave the EU as they were banned under EU rules/regs/laws/whatever.
Just highlights how much of a bunch of cunts some people are.
I work in this industry, and this sort of thing is *entirely* the fault of defra ministers.
Scientists will check the risks, and will sometimes go to a board of independent expert scientists for recommendations on use.
The scientists tell them it has clear risks, and usually they don’t recommend it being authorised at all. The ministers will then look at the recommendations and often completely disregard them because of the risks of ‘economic damages’ or ‘food security’ from whatever pest it targets. Then they’ll overrule the scientific advice. I think the only exception to this is when it has risks to consumers.
Considering how corruptible the government is, it wouldn’t surprise me if somebody is paying them off or they’re personal friends with the grower or agchem company selling the stuff or something.
I can understand some emergency applications going through, as they are genuine emergencies (some pests can cause total crop loss). But it’s still abused. I think we’re better than some EU member states, but the situation on the whole still isn’t great. It’s a loophole that’s taken advantage of- an open secret if you’ve got the ministers ear.
Meh… Who needs bees or even an ecosystem were we are going?
Once the bees go, we are only shortly behind them. Bees are vital, as are all flying insects. Their numbers have plummeted due to insecticide use, air pollution (this can mess with bee’s navigation) and people refusing to rewild gardens. All this will do is accelerate their demise and our food sufficiency with it. I’ve given up hope of people caring about nature these days. People want it on TV but seem to hate it in real life, unless it is a heavily sanitised version of it at least, we will look at our garden land in 30 years and curse ourselves for actions such as this.
Looking forward to having more crops now at the low low cost of no crops later.
ISTR that the method of delivery makes a difference. Last time this was in the news, an article reported that one method encapsulated the actual pesticide (instead of spraying it as a liquid) so it wasn’t harmful to bees.
they can’t make money off it (through kickbacks and incentives)
therefore it shouldn’t exist…that’s the tories in a nutshell.
Look, the banning of Neonicotinoids was a huge positive step, and seems already to have been having an effect in terms of some insect populations recovering.
However it’s also left farmers and chemical companies in a bit of a scramble to replace it and be able to continue high crop yield.
Sugar beet is actually big business in the UK, it’s a crop our climate is suited for. And this crop has a particular issue at the moment that threatens that industry. I’m sure a safer alternative is in the pipeline somewhere for this particular aphid but it’s not arrived yet. So reluctantly I can see the argument for a limited usage on this particular crop for a year or two.
And indeed it may not be needed – it wasn’t in the end last year.
Sugar beets are a stupid crop anyway. Plant something else and fuck off with the whole thing.
Isn’t British sugar still run by the husband of a Tory MP?
Bees are one of the most important lifeforms on the planet. So of course tories want to kill them. Fuck you and fuck anyone that even tries to defend this.
Tossers. When are they gonna declare the population an emergency and sort that out. If we can’t make enought food without killing the future we should sort ourselves out
Emergency? Because there are still bees alive and there’s not enough food scarcity?
Dutch shut down lots of their farms. UK start killing off bees. I’m sure it’s all just a conspiracy theory.
At what point are we allowed to say enough is enough and force these scumbags out of office?
Yeah let’s finish the little fuckers off, what could possibly go wrong..?
Absolute pantomine government
We have a government of whores and pimps. They’ll bend over take it up the shitter from anyone if the price is right.
Jesus fuckimg christ. This government are just cunts
So, is anything actually going right in this country right now? Is there at all a good future for any of us here?
I think a lot of people don’t understand anything about the sugar beet crop.
Sugar beet is a root crop, it doesn’t flower therefore doesn’t attract insects similar to a crop like rape seed would for example
So yes this might be harmful bee’s, if the bee’s would be attracted to the sugar beet crop.
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Disgusting, is anything sacred with this government?
Didn’t this happen before? I want to say when Theresa May was PM.
[removed]
They do know bees are essential for humans’ survival I hope
There may well be corruption afoot here. Those pesticides were BIG money makers that farms became dependant on.
The price and limited stock of fertilizer may also have been a factor. If yields are lower, taking an extra hit from pests may be critical.
Short term think continues. Nothing matters past next election because it won’t be their problem to fix
It’s going to be this kind of headlines for a while 🙂
We’re not adapting to a future with less energy and flux of matter.
It’s going to be a shitshow of epic proportion.
Give what’s happening with every factory, be it in the UK, in the USA or in France, it’s a sad joke 🙂 We’re polluting everything, us humans included.
I wonder when the fertility rate will be so low we’ll be like “Oh my, how can this be ?” ; “We need to make more studies to know which of the 1000s of chemicals we ingest is causing this”; “Oh shit, it’s half of them”; “Oh well, this is goodbye.”.
Once again, the BBC failing to differentiate between measures only applying to England and those applying to the whole of the UK. It’s almost as if they don’t want you to notice the differences in approach.
Its a myth that the UK cares about bees etc.
Try and get someone to leave some dandelions in their fetish-level control of their lawn.
If you use weedkiller you dont care about insects. There’s no such thing as a weed or a poison that knows exactly which plants or animals to kill.
These pesticides was a massive lea omg point for UK farmers to leave the EU as they were banned under EU rules/regs/laws/whatever.
Just highlights how much of a bunch of cunts some people are.
I work in this industry, and this sort of thing is *entirely* the fault of defra ministers.
Scientists will check the risks, and will sometimes go to a board of independent expert scientists for recommendations on use.
The scientists tell them it has clear risks, and usually they don’t recommend it being authorised at all. The ministers will then look at the recommendations and often completely disregard them because of the risks of ‘economic damages’ or ‘food security’ from whatever pest it targets. Then they’ll overrule the scientific advice. I think the only exception to this is when it has risks to consumers.
Considering how corruptible the government is, it wouldn’t surprise me if somebody is paying them off or they’re personal friends with the grower or agchem company selling the stuff or something.
I can understand some emergency applications going through, as they are genuine emergencies (some pests can cause total crop loss). But it’s still abused. I think we’re better than some EU member states, but the situation on the whole still isn’t great. It’s a loophole that’s taken advantage of- an open secret if you’ve got the ministers ear.
Meh… Who needs bees or even an ecosystem were we are going?
Once the bees go, we are only shortly behind them. Bees are vital, as are all flying insects. Their numbers have plummeted due to insecticide use, air pollution (this can mess with bee’s navigation) and people refusing to rewild gardens. All this will do is accelerate their demise and our food sufficiency with it. I’ve given up hope of people caring about nature these days. People want it on TV but seem to hate it in real life, unless it is a heavily sanitised version of it at least, we will look at our garden land in 30 years and curse ourselves for actions such as this.
Looking forward to having more crops now at the low low cost of no crops later.
ISTR that the method of delivery makes a difference. Last time this was in the news, an article reported that one method encapsulated the actual pesticide (instead of spraying it as a liquid) so it wasn’t harmful to bees.
they can’t make money off it (through kickbacks and incentives)
therefore it shouldn’t exist…that’s the tories in a nutshell.
Look, the banning of Neonicotinoids was a huge positive step, and seems already to have been having an effect in terms of some insect populations recovering.
However it’s also left farmers and chemical companies in a bit of a scramble to replace it and be able to continue high crop yield.
Sugar beet is actually big business in the UK, it’s a crop our climate is suited for. And this crop has a particular issue at the moment that threatens that industry. I’m sure a safer alternative is in the pipeline somewhere for this particular aphid but it’s not arrived yet. So reluctantly I can see the argument for a limited usage on this particular crop for a year or two.
And indeed it may not be needed – it wasn’t in the end last year.
Sugar beets are a stupid crop anyway. Plant something else and fuck off with the whole thing.
Isn’t British sugar still run by the husband of a Tory MP?
Bees are one of the most important lifeforms on the planet. So of course tories want to kill them. Fuck you and fuck anyone that even tries to defend this.
Tossers. When are they gonna declare the population an emergency and sort that out. If we can’t make enought food without killing the future we should sort ourselves out
Emergency? Because there are still bees alive and there’s not enough food scarcity?
Dutch shut down lots of their farms. UK start killing off bees. I’m sure it’s all just a conspiracy theory.
At what point are we allowed to say enough is enough and force these scumbags out of office?
Yeah let’s finish the little fuckers off, what could possibly go wrong..?
Absolute pantomine government
We have a government of whores and pimps. They’ll bend over take it up the shitter from anyone if the price is right.
Jesus fuckimg christ. This government are just cunts
So, is anything actually going right in this country right now? Is there at all a good future for any of us here?
I think a lot of people don’t understand anything about the sugar beet crop.
Sugar beet is a root crop, it doesn’t flower therefore doesn’t attract insects similar to a crop like rape seed would for example
So yes this might be harmful bee’s, if the bee’s would be attracted to the sugar beet crop.