What’s r/belgium’s take on this? i refuse until they send me the notice of default. I bet I can still stretch this a year.
They were coming last week. I wasn’t really interested but I relented. I made an appointment and took a day off from work. They would come in the morning. At 15h I got a phonecall. ”our technician won’t be able to make it today”
Fuck them. I played nice. Now I’m gonna resist this until court.
Why is everyone so against a digital meter? As far as I understood with this new peak tariff thing, with a digital meter you pay what you use and without you pay the max for the whole month if you reach the threshold once. So it’s much more advantageous to get a digital meter. No?
We got a letter that they were going to come install one in the house we bought. Okay, we were planning on installing solar panels anyway so we’d have to get one anyway.
But, the house is currently empty while we’re waiting on our renovation plans to be approved, and they only give you a rough timespan of 5-6 hours for when the technician should arrive (e.g. 8-13h, or 12-18h) and we’re not keen to spend 5-6 hours in an empty house in the winter.
On top of that, once our renovation plans are approved and we’re done with the “ruwbouw” phase, we’ll have to ask them to move the meter to its new place. Also, the gas meter will be disconnected and removed. So they’d be doing a lot of unnecessary work now by replacing a meter that will be removed anyway, and another one that will be moved to a new place.
I explained all this to teaplus, the contractor that would install the digital meters for Fluvius. The first person on the phone agreed but could not cancel the appointment (so they could come at a later, to be determined date after the works). Transferred me to a person who was supposed to be able to do that, but that person just said “no you cannot cancel it or delay it, we can remove it from our system but then we need to notify Fluvius and they will take legal action”.
Called Fluvius, again the first person on the line agreed with me and sent an email to the internal department that handled the planning of the digital meters and ensured me they would delay it until after the works. Next day, got an email from that department saying that we can only “weiger” if we don’t want it now, but there would be legal steps and we’d have to pay for the installation later.
In the end we agreed to let them install it anyway but on a different day and the contractor told us they’d come to our house first thing in the morning so we wouldn’t have to wait 5-6 hours in an empty house. That still has to happen, so to be seen.
I get that they need to deal with a lot of people that don’t want the digital meter for financial and/or conspiracy reasons, but I’m getting tired of the stubbornness in the Belgian bureaucracy that doesn’t leave any wiggle room for actual practical reasons, that would also save them work and time.
This whole thing is a mess. They should have done it street by street, not house by house. It would be a lot cheaper for everyone due to the gain in efficiency.
And a lot less unfair because the difference between the first and last wouldn’t be 10+ years
What the digital meter should be able to do is be integrated with solar panels/battery pack. So that i can sell electricity when it is expensive and buy electricity when it is cheap. Automaticly.
That’s what we should be preparing to do in these green electricity times. Absorb electricity when there is an abundance and give it back when there is a shortage.
As i understand it, no such system exists today. What’s up with that? Nobody wants to make money?
Ik gebruik 0 gas en 2 stroom.
Fuck them, tinfoil hat and screw them. It’s organized crime, regulated by ‘our’ politicians.
Da goade gij nie bepale ze vriend!
You’d start to believe the people behind of it all (energy in general) are absolute retards. Just found out that two of our major power lines won’t be able to handle all of the electricity we’re producing since they didn’t take into account some nuclear plants are still going to be operational. Although they informed Elia 5 years ago nuclear plants were going to be shut down and fossil-fuel power stations were going to take its place. Now we get the fossil-fuel power stations on top of nuclear plants and on top of all that we have a growing number of households who produce their own energy. And now Elia told them that this scenario will literally blow their fuses and they won’t be able to adjust their infrastructure in time.
is it true they can deactivate the digital meter remotely
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What’s r/belgium’s take on this? i refuse until they send me the notice of default. I bet I can still stretch this a year.
They were coming last week. I wasn’t really interested but I relented. I made an appointment and took a day off from work. They would come in the morning. At 15h I got a phonecall. ”our technician won’t be able to make it today”
Fuck them. I played nice. Now I’m gonna resist this until court.
Why is everyone so against a digital meter? As far as I understood with this new peak tariff thing, with a digital meter you pay what you use and without you pay the max for the whole month if you reach the threshold once. So it’s much more advantageous to get a digital meter. No?
We got a letter that they were going to come install one in the house we bought. Okay, we were planning on installing solar panels anyway so we’d have to get one anyway.
But, the house is currently empty while we’re waiting on our renovation plans to be approved, and they only give you a rough timespan of 5-6 hours for when the technician should arrive (e.g. 8-13h, or 12-18h) and we’re not keen to spend 5-6 hours in an empty house in the winter.
On top of that, once our renovation plans are approved and we’re done with the “ruwbouw” phase, we’ll have to ask them to move the meter to its new place. Also, the gas meter will be disconnected and removed. So they’d be doing a lot of unnecessary work now by replacing a meter that will be removed anyway, and another one that will be moved to a new place.
I explained all this to teaplus, the contractor that would install the digital meters for Fluvius. The first person on the phone agreed but could not cancel the appointment (so they could come at a later, to be determined date after the works). Transferred me to a person who was supposed to be able to do that, but that person just said “no you cannot cancel it or delay it, we can remove it from our system but then we need to notify Fluvius and they will take legal action”.
Called Fluvius, again the first person on the line agreed with me and sent an email to the internal department that handled the planning of the digital meters and ensured me they would delay it until after the works. Next day, got an email from that department saying that we can only “weiger” if we don’t want it now, but there would be legal steps and we’d have to pay for the installation later.
In the end we agreed to let them install it anyway but on a different day and the contractor told us they’d come to our house first thing in the morning so we wouldn’t have to wait 5-6 hours in an empty house. That still has to happen, so to be seen.
I get that they need to deal with a lot of people that don’t want the digital meter for financial and/or conspiracy reasons, but I’m getting tired of the stubbornness in the Belgian bureaucracy that doesn’t leave any wiggle room for actual practical reasons, that would also save them work and time.
This whole thing is a mess. They should have done it street by street, not house by house. It would be a lot cheaper for everyone due to the gain in efficiency.
And a lot less unfair because the difference between the first and last wouldn’t be 10+ years
What the digital meter should be able to do is be integrated with solar panels/battery pack. So that i can sell electricity when it is expensive and buy electricity when it is cheap. Automaticly.
That’s what we should be preparing to do in these green electricity times. Absorb electricity when there is an abundance and give it back when there is a shortage.
As i understand it, no such system exists today. What’s up with that? Nobody wants to make money?
Ik gebruik 0 gas en 2 stroom.
Fuck them, tinfoil hat and screw them. It’s organized crime, regulated by ‘our’ politicians.
Da goade gij nie bepale ze vriend!
You’d start to believe the people behind of it all (energy in general) are absolute retards. Just found out that two of our major power lines won’t be able to handle all of the electricity we’re producing since they didn’t take into account some nuclear plants are still going to be operational. Although they informed Elia 5 years ago nuclear plants were going to be shut down and fossil-fuel power stations were going to take its place. Now we get the fossil-fuel power stations on top of nuclear plants and on top of all that we have a growing number of households who produce their own energy. And now Elia told them that this scenario will literally blow their fuses and they won’t be able to adjust their infrastructure in time.
is it true they can deactivate the digital meter remotely