Mfer thats like saying “its utterly ridiculous to say boiled dough with sauce is from one country”
Nobody even uses that sub, and indeed nobody in the Netherlands thinks of stoofvlees (or anything from the frituur) as a Belgian thing
@ u/FriendlyBelgian
I still can’t reply to you directly. Very weird. It says I have blocked you (which I haven’t) but I can still read your posts and visit your profile etc… Only not react. Anyway.
Zuurvlees is not stoofvlees. Stoofvlees is beef with beer and onions. Zuurvlees has vinegar and syrup. Saying these are the same is like saying amatriciana and puttanesca are the same because they’re both pasta with tomato sauce.
EDIT: My father is from Limburg. Zuurvlees tastes like the word says: sour. Because of the vinegar. The sauce is sweet with the syrup, but the meat itself is acid because of the marinade. Also: when you make zuurvlees, you put the raw meat straight from the vinegar marinade into the cooking liquid. Stoofvlees should be roasted first. Stoofvlees also keeps chunks of meat. They easily fall apart, but they’re still chunks. While zuurvlees often has more of a draadjesvlees consistency. Little threads of meat, not large chunks. In texture, the crap you get at the frituur looks more like zuurvlees than stoofvlees. In taste, it’s just badly made stoofvlees (often there’s no beer in it).
PS do you have an alt account? Maybe I blocked your other account and Reddit knows you’re the same person?
I moved to Holland.
They do not have fucking stoofvlees here. Claiming so if fucking ridiculous.
I feel we should be able to declare war over this.
I’ve only been living here for 5 months and I’m absolutely outraged by this
Don’t play chess with a pigeon. Their culinary imagination doesn’t go past taking the word stoofvlees literally.
That thread is fucked, one of them even answered witloof. I don’t even like witloof in den oven but I can’t deny it’s possibly the most Belgian dish ever created.
Them’s fighting words.
Die focking Hollanders..
haha a Dutchman trying to have a say in anything related to cuisine. Perhaps try not having sugar-laden mayonnaise first.
says you can’t claim a dish and its international….while claiming one themselves
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Y’all ever tasted the Dutch stoofvlees.. it’s fucking disgusting. Even if they try to make the Belgian style version, they have absolutely no clue how to make it. Speaking from a Belgian living in the Netherlands. So don’t worry they can try claiming, they know damn well they suck.
Yeah, well bitterballen are universal too!!!
No, all funnyness on a stick, as a Dutchy in Be for 12 years. In my day I never saw stoofvlees. Of course, one knew that you can stew meat, but it wasn’t part of the culture, let alone that you could buy it in every single restaurant and frituur. I have seen in Dutch Snackbars more now, but that’s something from the last 10 years.
It can’t be Dutch because you need a -good- beer to make it.
“Not talking about snacks”
And then the Dutch ran out of ideas…
The Dutch don’t have a food culture, period.
Oh the irony:
“Stoofvlees is a Dutch dish!”
“Stoofvlees is an international dish”
What is it???
(Of course it’s Belgian but still)
Never in my life seen ‘stoofvlees’ on a Dutch menu. Its standard dish in every Belgian restaurant and frituur.
“Its as Belgian as Dutch or German”. Its our national dish.
They also claim pannekoeken en croque monsieur and “thin fries”, so yeah.
Poor Dutch people. They dont have a cullinairy culture, so they claim others.
What can you expect from a culture that gets their food from a wall.
We would like a formal apology. Call the Dutch ambassador!
We go to war !
Nonono in France it’s boeuf bourguignon. Yes it’s stewed meat, no it’s not stoofvlees. There’s a reason it’s called carbonade Flamand in French.
This is literally like saying pelmini is the same as a gyoza.
Let’s claim peperkoek and stroopwafels, we shall see how they like that lol
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The audacity
Way too lazy to make the borat meme.
They can claim nothing. NOTHING!
Mfer thats like saying “its utterly ridiculous to say boiled dough with sauce is from one country”
Nobody even uses that sub, and indeed nobody in the Netherlands thinks of stoofvlees (or anything from the frituur) as a Belgian thing
@ u/FriendlyBelgian
I still can’t reply to you directly. Very weird. It says I have blocked you (which I haven’t) but I can still read your posts and visit your profile etc… Only not react. Anyway.
Zuurvlees is not stoofvlees. Stoofvlees is beef with beer and onions. Zuurvlees has vinegar and syrup. Saying these are the same is like saying amatriciana and puttanesca are the same because they’re both pasta with tomato sauce.
EDIT: My father is from Limburg. Zuurvlees tastes like the word says: sour. Because of the vinegar. The sauce is sweet with the syrup, but the meat itself is acid because of the marinade. Also: when you make zuurvlees, you put the raw meat straight from the vinegar marinade into the cooking liquid. Stoofvlees should be roasted first. Stoofvlees also keeps chunks of meat. They easily fall apart, but they’re still chunks. While zuurvlees often has more of a draadjesvlees consistency. Little threads of meat, not large chunks. In texture, the crap you get at the frituur looks more like zuurvlees than stoofvlees. In taste, it’s just badly made stoofvlees (often there’s no beer in it).
PS do you have an alt account? Maybe I blocked your other account and Reddit knows you’re the same person?
I moved to Holland.
They do not have fucking stoofvlees here. Claiming so if fucking ridiculous.
I feel we should be able to declare war over this.
I’ve only been living here for 5 months and I’m absolutely outraged by this
Don’t play chess with a pigeon. Their culinary imagination doesn’t go past taking the word stoofvlees literally.
That thread is fucked, one of them even answered witloof. I don’t even like witloof in den oven but I can’t deny it’s possibly the most Belgian dish ever created.
Them’s fighting words.
Die focking Hollanders..
haha a Dutchman trying to have a say in anything related to cuisine. Perhaps try not having sugar-laden mayonnaise first.
says you can’t claim a dish and its international….while claiming one themselves
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Y’all ever tasted the Dutch stoofvlees.. it’s fucking disgusting. Even if they try to make the Belgian style version, they have absolutely no clue how to make it. Speaking from a Belgian living in the Netherlands. So don’t worry they can try claiming, they know damn well they suck.
Yeah, well bitterballen are universal too!!!
No, all funnyness on a stick, as a Dutchy in Be for 12 years. In my day I never saw stoofvlees. Of course, one knew that you can stew meat, but it wasn’t part of the culture, let alone that you could buy it in every single restaurant and frituur. I have seen in Dutch Snackbars more now, but that’s something from the last 10 years.
It can’t be Dutch because you need a -good- beer to make it.
“Not talking about snacks”
And then the Dutch ran out of ideas…
The Dutch don’t have a food culture, period.
Oh the irony:
“Stoofvlees is a Dutch dish!”
“Stoofvlees is an international dish”
What is it???
(Of course it’s Belgian but still)
Never in my life seen ‘stoofvlees’ on a Dutch menu. Its standard dish in every Belgian restaurant and frituur.
“Its as Belgian as Dutch or German”. Its our national dish.
They also claim pannekoeken en croque monsieur and “thin fries”, so yeah.
Poor Dutch people. They dont have a cullinairy culture, so they claim others.
What can you expect from a culture that gets their food from a wall.
We would like a formal apology. Call the Dutch ambassador!
We go to war !
Nonono in France it’s boeuf bourguignon. Yes it’s stewed meat, no it’s not stoofvlees. There’s a reason it’s called carbonade Flamand in French.
This is literally like saying pelmini is the same as a gyoza.
Let’s claim peperkoek and stroopwafels, we shall see how they like that lol