Pump some significant funds & infrastructure into the 6 counties and we’ll call it even.
There’s probably far more descendants of famine victims living in England alone than Ireland. Jacob Rees Moggs great great great grandad was a catholic tenant farmer who had to leave Cork.
Can’t say the money matters at this point. Recognition they fucked up for everything they done here and they hold people accountable where they’re still here.
Soup
I wouldn’t want anything. I suppose what they could do is actually teach what really happened besides a “Lack of Potatoes”
6 bags of coal to raffle off at local parishes
Reparations in the form of Northern Ireland.
I wonder should we chase the Vatican as it was a Pope that told the Brits to come here first
How embarrassing. Fair enough if the Famine was in living memory, but it isn’t.
English people don’t have a clue about their past history they are taught about their Kings and Queens and how they brought civilisation to all the backward countries ‘listen to the words of the Fields of Athenry it gives you a good idea of how the Irish were cheated out of their land and died of starvation ‘apologies have been made but I think the way forward is education .
Just the famine?
Nonsense. Reparations no longer target the direct victims, its impossibe to quantify, and it encourages divisiveness.
An apology, and openness to discussing the issues in the teaching of history is all that’s needed.
Sometimes in life it’s better to keep a dignified silence than constantly be seen as a whinger.
They’re going to give one bowl of soup to every resident, all you have to do to sign up is convert to COE and anglicise your name.
UK is poor as shit, it’s like taking money from undeveloped African countries that dealt in Barbary piracy
The whole concept of paying reparations for something that everyone involved in is dead 100 years at this stage is ridiculous.
There’s enough shite on this island due to people not letting go of the past. We’re over it. Look forward not back.
They should invest the would-be reparations into an Irish history class for its own citizens
I’d prefer if they admitted, specifically, that colonising the country was wrong. That the Ulster plantation was wrong , and has left a lasting problem for Irish people to solve. To admit that they were complicit in loyalist murder throughout the 20th century
It’s a joke to some people over there.
I remember returning to my classroom one day to find a potatoes left on my laptop with a note that said something like ‘in case you get homesick’.
Never found out who did it. Probably a student , I guess.
Famine was nearly 200 years ago. Get over it.
Who’d get the reparations?
The descendants of those who were forced to emigrate (many of whom live in the UK) or those who were able to stay (i.e. most people reading this post)?
Just a simple acknowledgment of some level of fault would be far more appreciated, I think. They’ve been avoiding that so far.
And such reparations should come in the form of population and all the associated urban development and infrastructure
It’s always really weird to me when people who are not responsible for what happened long ago are expected to pay to people who were never impacted by it.
The famine was over 150 years ago. There’s at least an argument to be made for paying things back to people who have been harmed in the recent past but IMO to insist on something like this is bitter and petty. I think it’ll cause more harm than good so better to just let it go.
Feck that, we don’t need or want their money, it happened centuries ago now anyway, everyone it would have mattered to are gone.
Why do people think the UK was primarily responsible for the famine, and its devastating effects?
Can we get a bit of this in the north?
Publishing the unreleased documents relating to the Dublin Monaghan bombing, action the Pat Finucane inquiry, jail Soldier F, jail that cunt who got off with murdering Aidan McAnespie, try Mike Jackson for crimes against humanity for the awful shit he done to people in Derry and Ballymurphy, strip cunts like Frank Kitson of his war medals and acknowledge him for the criminal that he is.
Tell us how far up the chain of command in the British Government were they aware of these events, who gave these actions the final go ahead.
Fuck me lads Mi5 planned the murder of Charlie Haughey (a leader of an independent state) and set up the torture of the hooded men in advance.
Instead of looking for famine reparations, we should be trying to achieve justice, accountability, and closure for victims, their families, and British perpetrators who are still alive.
(And before someone comes at me for the usually tit for tat endless 0 sum game argument, yes I believe provos who murdered civilians re:kingsmill, la mon, should be held to account also)
Be grand
I’m with others here. we don’t need their money but it would be nice if they acknowledged it and actually taught it in schools. It’s shocking to me how little English people know about not just our history but their own too.
I think more than anything I just want them to have a bit of fucking interest. I live in England and any time I post a letter home or goes to “Southern Ireland” and I just don’t feel like breaking out the history lessons for the poor Post Office workers.
An acknowledgment they fucked up would be fine. Teach it better in schools because it was part of the UK as well at one point. I don’t want money because I’m still see salty cunts banging on about the 7 billion they gave us during the bailout (repaid fully with interest btw) so they’d never stop cribbing about this.
We don’t want famine reparations, our economy is doing far better than theirs we don’t need their weak money. This is what we want.
For them to except that the famine was an attempted genocide and to apologise for it.
To apologise for the penal laws.
To apologise for the prison ships.
To apologise for the crimes committed in the war of independence.
To apologise for the Ulster Plantation and to acknowledge it should never have happened.
To educate their students about what they really did to us and not just “they used to be British”.
Ridiculous. The Irish would often raid what was The U.K before England properly formed. Should we pay them back the stuff we took?
There’s pretty much zero chance of them ever doing this while they still occupy the north-east. Like, how could they make reparations to the south without also making them in the north, which they consider to be theirs.
I mean, they absolutely should, I just don’t see it ever happening. And I don’t just mean the money, I don’t see them even just making an acknowledgement of their actions.
I don’t care about the money, I’d prefer a formal recognition and apology for what they did on this island
We neither want nor need their money. They’ll just hold it up as a reason why they shouldn’t feel bad.
It should be recognised as a genocide, they.never would’ve let this happen in Britain even though both were part of the UK.
Are we going to DNA test the population to see who is owed what ?
Here is the thing with reparations it dose not actually fix what happened to our ancestors their suffering dose not equate to you having a fist full of cash.
You are never going to see cash from the UK because it’s kinda like that guy that has dirt on you they demand you to pay to make it go away and then a few weeks later the guy comes back asking for more and more till you say no. Unfortunately, that’s how the UK see this situation that’s even if they even give any thought to given reparations at all, I’d say we are lucky to get an apology off them.
I think the only reparation that would be worthy of the blood shed they caused in this county is the full return of the North Ireland.
Dunno. Everyone that’s alive in the UK today wasn’t around in the 19th century, so they’ll just be saddled with financial obligations that they feel are uncalled for. I assume that most modern day Brits have morals – they’ll feel some guilt if they, say, move here and learn the truth about their colonial past rather than some misbegotten one sided narrative that they were some force of good or whatever.
I have less sympathy for the English political class and relevant Crown agencies; these are the ones who should foot any bill, and only them. Especially regarding NI reparations for the Troubles, which I’d support, but is another matter. Doing this on the basis of ancestry will just perpetuate the bad blood.
Regarding the wider population, I think it’s only fair if they revamp their history curriculum and learn it properly so they learn it from the point of view of the oppressed. Stop claiming Irish people as Brits when they win accolades, drop the xenophobic slurs etc., and more.
Scotland and believe it or not, Wales were also colonised by the same entity. Is it fair to demand anything from them? If yes, then the same logic could be used to demand reparations from Ireland. So we should be targeting England with any demands.
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No thanks
Will it be means tested?
Pump some significant funds & infrastructure into the 6 counties and we’ll call it even.
There’s probably far more descendants of famine victims living in England alone than Ireland. Jacob Rees Moggs great great great grandad was a catholic tenant farmer who had to leave Cork.
Can’t say the money matters at this point. Recognition they fucked up for everything they done here and they hold people accountable where they’re still here.
Soup
I wouldn’t want anything. I suppose what they could do is actually teach what really happened besides a “Lack of Potatoes”
6 bags of coal to raffle off at local parishes
Reparations in the form of Northern Ireland.
I wonder should we chase the Vatican as it was a Pope that told the Brits to come here first
How embarrassing. Fair enough if the Famine was in living memory, but it isn’t.
English people don’t have a clue about their past history they are taught about their Kings and Queens and how they brought civilisation to all the backward countries ‘listen to the words of the Fields of Athenry it gives you a good idea of how the Irish were cheated out of their land and died of starvation ‘apologies have been made but I think the way forward is education .
Just the famine?
Nonsense. Reparations no longer target the direct victims, its impossibe to quantify, and it encourages divisiveness.
An apology, and openness to discussing the issues in the teaching of history is all that’s needed.
Sometimes in life it’s better to keep a dignified silence than constantly be seen as a whinger.
They’re going to give one bowl of soup to every resident, all you have to do to sign up is convert to COE and anglicise your name.
UK is poor as shit, it’s like taking money from undeveloped African countries that dealt in Barbary piracy
The whole concept of paying reparations for something that everyone involved in is dead 100 years at this stage is ridiculous.
There’s enough shite on this island due to people not letting go of the past. We’re over it. Look forward not back.
They should invest the would-be reparations into an Irish history class for its own citizens
I’d prefer if they admitted, specifically, that colonising the country was wrong. That the Ulster plantation was wrong , and has left a lasting problem for Irish people to solve. To admit that they were complicit in loyalist murder throughout the 20th century
It’s a joke to some people over there.
I remember returning to my classroom one day to find a potatoes left on my laptop with a note that said something like ‘in case you get homesick’.
Never found out who did it. Probably a student , I guess.
Famine was nearly 200 years ago. Get over it.
Who’d get the reparations?
The descendants of those who were forced to emigrate (many of whom live in the UK) or those who were able to stay (i.e. most people reading this post)?
Just a simple acknowledgment of some level of fault would be far more appreciated, I think. They’ve been avoiding that so far.
And such reparations should come in the form of population and all the associated urban development and infrastructure
It’s always really weird to me when people who are not responsible for what happened long ago are expected to pay to people who were never impacted by it.
The famine was over 150 years ago. There’s at least an argument to be made for paying things back to people who have been harmed in the recent past but IMO to insist on something like this is bitter and petty. I think it’ll cause more harm than good so better to just let it go.
Feck that, we don’t need or want their money, it happened centuries ago now anyway, everyone it would have mattered to are gone.
Why do people think the UK was primarily responsible for the famine, and its devastating effects?
Can we get a bit of this in the north?
Publishing the unreleased documents relating to the Dublin Monaghan bombing, action the Pat Finucane inquiry, jail Soldier F, jail that cunt who got off with murdering Aidan McAnespie, try Mike Jackson for crimes against humanity for the awful shit he done to people in Derry and Ballymurphy, strip cunts like Frank Kitson of his war medals and acknowledge him for the criminal that he is.
Tell us how far up the chain of command in the British Government were they aware of these events, who gave these actions the final go ahead.
Fuck me lads Mi5 planned the murder of Charlie Haughey (a leader of an independent state) and set up the torture of the hooded men in advance.
Instead of looking for famine reparations, we should be trying to achieve justice, accountability, and closure for victims, their families, and British perpetrators who are still alive.
(And before someone comes at me for the usually tit for tat endless 0 sum game argument, yes I believe provos who murdered civilians re:kingsmill, la mon, should be held to account also)
Be grand
I’m with others here. we don’t need their money but it would be nice if they acknowledged it and actually taught it in schools. It’s shocking to me how little English people know about not just our history but their own too.
I think more than anything I just want them to have a bit of fucking interest. I live in England and any time I post a letter home or goes to “Southern Ireland” and I just don’t feel like breaking out the history lessons for the poor Post Office workers.
An acknowledgment they fucked up would be fine. Teach it better in schools because it was part of the UK as well at one point. I don’t want money because I’m still see salty cunts banging on about the 7 billion they gave us during the bailout (repaid fully with interest btw) so they’d never stop cribbing about this.
We don’t want famine reparations, our economy is doing far better than theirs we don’t need their weak money. This is what we want.
For them to except that the famine was an attempted genocide and to apologise for it.
To apologise for the penal laws.
To apologise for the prison ships.
To apologise for the crimes committed in the war of independence.
To apologise for the Ulster Plantation and to acknowledge it should never have happened.
To educate their students about what they really did to us and not just “they used to be British”.
Ridiculous. The Irish would often raid what was The U.K before England properly formed. Should we pay them back the stuff we took?
There’s pretty much zero chance of them ever doing this while they still occupy the north-east. Like, how could they make reparations to the south without also making them in the north, which they consider to be theirs.
I mean, they absolutely should, I just don’t see it ever happening. And I don’t just mean the money, I don’t see them even just making an acknowledgement of their actions.
I don’t care about the money, I’d prefer a formal recognition and apology for what they did on this island
We neither want nor need their money. They’ll just hold it up as a reason why they shouldn’t feel bad.
It should be recognised as a genocide, they.never would’ve let this happen in Britain even though both were part of the UK.
Are we going to DNA test the population to see who is owed what ?
Here is the thing with reparations it dose not actually fix what happened to our ancestors their suffering dose not equate to you having a fist full of cash.
You are never going to see cash from the UK because it’s kinda like that guy that has dirt on you they demand you to pay to make it go away and then a few weeks later the guy comes back asking for more and more till you say no. Unfortunately, that’s how the UK see this situation that’s even if they even give any thought to given reparations at all, I’d say we are lucky to get an apology off them.
I think the only reparation that would be worthy of the blood shed they caused in this county is the full return of the North Ireland.
Dunno. Everyone that’s alive in the UK today wasn’t around in the 19th century, so they’ll just be saddled with financial obligations that they feel are uncalled for. I assume that most modern day Brits have morals – they’ll feel some guilt if they, say, move here and learn the truth about their colonial past rather than some misbegotten one sided narrative that they were some force of good or whatever.
I have less sympathy for the English political class and relevant Crown agencies; these are the ones who should foot any bill, and only them. Especially regarding NI reparations for the Troubles, which I’d support, but is another matter. Doing this on the basis of ancestry will just perpetuate the bad blood.
Regarding the wider population, I think it’s only fair if they revamp their history curriculum and learn it properly so they learn it from the point of view of the oppressed. Stop claiming Irish people as Brits when they win accolades, drop the xenophobic slurs etc., and more.
Scotland and believe it or not, Wales were also colonised by the same entity. Is it fair to demand anything from them? If yes, then the same logic could be used to demand reparations from Ireland. So we should be targeting England with any demands.