> The Claim :“We are ensuring the flow of patients through emergency care is faster than ever, we are discharging people at a record rate out of hospitals to ease the constraints they are facing.”RISHI SUNAK MP, 18 JANUARY 2023.
> This exchange was also later shared by the Conservative party Twitter account.
> Over the past two weeks we’ve repeatedly asked the government what Mr Sunak was referring to in these comments, but we have not been given any data which supports the claims.
> We asked Number 10 about the claims [on 18,19,24, and 27thJan] but have not received any response.
> We also asked the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC). In a reply on 18 January it pointed us toward weekly-published situation reports …but did not explain which specific figures supported Mr Sunak’s claim. …The DHSC did not respond to further requests for clarification on 19 January and 27 January.
> …Other data published by the NHS does show that in England the volume of A&E attendances in December was the highest on record. ..Health experts have told us this may be what Mr Sunak was referring to when he talked about “A&E patient flow”. However, they also said that A&E waiting times are the highest since current records began, while the proportion of patients declared medically fit who are discharged each day is lower than it was last winter.
> Ministers must back up the claims they make. Anyone making serious claims in public debate should be prepared to back up their claims with evidence, and that should clearly apply to the Prime Minister making a high-profile claim about a key issue such as this. So it’s disappointing that neither Number 10 nor the DHSC have offered any figures to back up Mr Sunak’s specific claim, or even explained exactly what he meant.
The sun is going to set at 11pm, I’ve won the lottery, my car has grown wings, Sunak tells the truth.
Who the fuck is “we”?
This cretin hasn’t stepped foot inside a hospital for anything other than PR and photos.
Ambulance queues outside EDs across the country easily disprove this. I had a colleague wait for 15 hours in the ED before going home because of how bad the wait time was, staff sickness meant that there was just not enough staff to keep wait times to less than 24 hours. We can see hospital occupancy in the staff intranet and we had no beds on our site, nor our sister site, on Friday. Patient flow is now top priority for clinical staff but it constantly falls short because of staffing levels and a complete lack of social care for those with no family/no family nearby.
When there are no consequences for lying, why tell the truth?
I’m not sure what’s worse: either he thought we were stupid enough to believe this, or he’s stupid enough to believe it himself
It’s just never ending lies and gaslighting
If they spent a fraction of their time governing they would have to spend all their time lying and gaslighting us.
We can all see what’s happening, that’s why your polling is fucked.
The pathway from A&E to the grave has never been quicker!
Next thing they’ll tell us is that the country has never been stronger and better funded.
Teachers happiness is highest in history and all the nurses love their stress free jobs?
The lies will continue until SOMEONE in the media has the balls to call him out on it. “Mr Sunak, last week you claimed A&E patient flow is faster than ever. That statement isn’t true, is it? Why did you lie to the British people?”
We really need to start seeing the government face repercussions for making statements in the house that aren’t true and then not going on to publicly correct the record.
I was in hospital 2weeks ago, there were 5-6 people waiting including me, took 6 hours.
My wife is an A&E nurse. A few days ago the wait time was 7 hours and a complaint was levelled against her because the waiting room was so full of p[patients and their relatives that she stood on a step stool and issued the instruction that chairs were for patients only, relatives would have to stand or leave.
In fairness, there weren’t any queues for him to witness when _he_ had to attend a medical appointment
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> The Claim :“We are ensuring the flow of patients through emergency care is faster than ever, we are discharging people at a record rate out of hospitals to ease the constraints they are facing.”RISHI SUNAK MP, 18 JANUARY 2023.
> This exchange was also later shared by the Conservative party Twitter account.
> Over the past two weeks we’ve repeatedly asked the government what Mr Sunak was referring to in these comments, but we have not been given any data which supports the claims.
> We asked Number 10 about the claims [on 18,19,24, and 27thJan] but have not received any response.
> We also asked the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC). In a reply on 18 January it pointed us toward weekly-published situation reports …but did not explain which specific figures supported Mr Sunak’s claim. …The DHSC did not respond to further requests for clarification on 19 January and 27 January.
> …Other data published by the NHS does show that in England the volume of A&E attendances in December was the highest on record. ..Health experts have told us this may be what Mr Sunak was referring to when he talked about “A&E patient flow”. However, they also said that A&E waiting times are the highest since current records began, while the proportion of patients declared medically fit who are discharged each day is lower than it was last winter.
> Ministers must back up the claims they make. Anyone making serious claims in public debate should be prepared to back up their claims with evidence, and that should clearly apply to the Prime Minister making a high-profile claim about a key issue such as this. So it’s disappointing that neither Number 10 nor the DHSC have offered any figures to back up Mr Sunak’s specific claim, or even explained exactly what he meant.
The sun is going to set at 11pm, I’ve won the lottery, my car has grown wings, Sunak tells the truth.
Who the fuck is “we”?
This cretin hasn’t stepped foot inside a hospital for anything other than PR and photos.
Ambulance queues outside EDs across the country easily disprove this. I had a colleague wait for 15 hours in the ED before going home because of how bad the wait time was, staff sickness meant that there was just not enough staff to keep wait times to less than 24 hours. We can see hospital occupancy in the staff intranet and we had no beds on our site, nor our sister site, on Friday. Patient flow is now top priority for clinical staff but it constantly falls short because of staffing levels and a complete lack of social care for those with no family/no family nearby.
When there are no consequences for lying, why tell the truth?
I’m not sure what’s worse: either he thought we were stupid enough to believe this, or he’s stupid enough to believe it himself
It’s just never ending lies and gaslighting
If they spent a fraction of their time governing they would have to spend all their time lying and gaslighting us.
We can all see what’s happening, that’s why your polling is fucked.
The pathway from A&E to the grave has never been quicker!
Next thing they’ll tell us is that the country has never been stronger and better funded.
Teachers happiness is highest in history and all the nurses love their stress free jobs?
The lies will continue until SOMEONE in the media has the balls to call him out on it. “Mr Sunak, last week you claimed A&E patient flow is faster than ever. That statement isn’t true, is it? Why did you lie to the British people?”
We really need to start seeing the government face repercussions for making statements in the house that aren’t true and then not going on to publicly correct the record.
I was in hospital 2weeks ago, there were 5-6 people waiting including me, took 6 hours.
My wife is an A&E nurse. A few days ago the wait time was 7 hours and a complaint was levelled against her because the waiting room was so full of p[patients and their relatives that she stood on a step stool and issued the instruction that chairs were for patients only, relatives would have to stand or leave.
In fairness, there weren’t any queues for him to witness when _he_ had to attend a medical appointment