I have the LGBT thing but there is a new letter now.
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Shame that in the modern age people can be so animalistic towards others.
> Europeans who identify as LGBTI face an increasingly toxic, violent and even deadly environment, despite several legislative victories achieved over the past year, a new report has warned.
>
> Suicides among the LGBTI population have climbed up, migration movements to flee repression have intensified and the space for civil society has gradually shrunk across the continent, the paper says.
>
> The situation of trans people has become of particular concern as hateful rhetoric, polarised politics and deceptive arguments coalesced into a climate of insecurity and hostility.
>
> Meanwhile, education has turned into a “battleground” as the progress on sexual education is “challenged at a fundamental level” in countries like Hungary, Serbia, Russia, Italy and the United Kingdom.
>
> The findings were compiled in the annual report of ILGA-Europe, an umbrella NGO that encompasses over 600 entities across Europe and Central Asia, and make for sobering reading.
>
> Released on Monday morning, the study shows the steepest rise in anti-LGBTI violence since the organisation began publishing its annual report 12 years ago.
>
> The trends in 2022 present not only a marked increase in the number of attacks but especially in the severity and lethality with which they were conducted, such as the shootings in Bratislava and in Oslo, where the attackers were said to have purposely targeted queer people.
>
> “It’s deliberate attacks with a wish to kill,” says Evelyne Paradis, executive director at ILGA-Europe.
>
> The report pays no mind to the traditional West-East divide and instead points the finger at a long list of European countries where anti-LGBTI hate crimes are “on the rise,” including France, Hungary, Germany, Montenegro, Iceland, Romania, Spain, Turkey, Switzerland and Russia.
>
> The reasons behind this violence are multi-fold and vary from country to country but they all can be traced back to one common pattern: hateful rhetoric.
>
> “There’s a rise in hate speech – and hate speech often by politicians, by elected officials, by key opinion leaders and, dare I say, also hate speech that has been allowed to be disseminated by the media as well,” Paradis told Euronews in an interview.
>
> “Hateful speech always has an impact. It always translates, at one point or another, into physical violence, because it does contribute to creating a climate where physical violence is enabled.”
>
> In a positive evolution, the report notes this rise in hate crime has been met with a rise in successful prosecutions as European courts become more responsive to bias-motivated violence.
>
> However, the legal cases take place only “after the fact” and have little bearing in the prevention of the violence itself, Paradis said, which is the task of elected representatives and law enforcement.
>
> **’Enormous backlash’ against trans people**
>
> Throughout the study, which covers developments across the 54 countries in which ILGA-Europe’s affiliates are present, a key area of concern is the situation of trans people, who are reported to face an “enormous backlash” and persistent legal obstacles.
>
> Trans people frequently seek legal recognition of their affirmed gender, which is different from the sex they were assigned at birth, through the issuance of a new certificate.
>
> This process, known as gender recognition, is wildly different across Europe: some states provide self-identification to make the change easier while others demand a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria, a requirement that activists oppose because it equates the trans identity to a mental health disorder.
>
> Over the years, as trans rights made inroads into legislatures, the debate has turned fiercer and the opposition louder, diluting the human dimension of the issues at stake and endangering the physical and mental health of trans people, Paradis said.
>
> “Trans people are an easy target for right-wing politicians, and they’re an easy target because there is still a prevailing lack of understanding of what the realities of trans people are, what the reality of being trans is,” Paradis said.
>
> “It’s been very difficult to have civil discussions around much-needed laws that actually protect people because amidst all of this people are being dehumanised.”
>
> Spain and Finland are among the European countries that recently passed progressive laws to strengthen trans rights, an effort that came about only after a protracted and heated back-and-forth.
>
> In the United Kingdom, where trans rights are often placed in direct opposition to women’s rights, the subject has become an even hotter topic of conversation, acquiring the characteristics of a culture war.
>
> Last month, Westminster took the unusual step to block Scotland’s new gender recognition bill, based on a system of self-identification, arguing it could have a detrimental impact on nationwide equality laws. In response, Holyrood called the move a “full-frontal attack” on its democratically-elected parliament.
>
> Still, despite the negative trends seen throughout 2022, the ILGA-Europe report highlights positive developments across the continent, including new bans on conversion therapies and unnecessary interventions on intersex children, whose bodies do not fit a strict male-female binary.
>
> Additionally, the study says, 2022 saw same-sex marriage becoming legal in Switzerland and Slovenia, a first in Eastern Europe, and notable progress in same-sex parenthood rights in Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Czech Republic, Lithuania and Spain.
>
> “All of these positive changes are made possible because people are still fighting and they’re still determined, despite the fact that the context is getting not easier for them,” Paradis said.
>
> “The community is still very much determined and able to create change. So for me, that remains the glimmer of hope.”
I think… the problem is that, no matter how noble a cause… the more you push something on people, the more they are going to resist it.
I think we peaked in our tolerance about 5-10 years ago on this one, and since then it has become a total minefield of TLAs and job losing pitfalls, to the point where people’s attitudes towards the whole theme are turning negative. And at the extremes of that negativity you’re going to get toxicity and violence.
There becomes an increasing sense of “them and us”, the more aggressive the campaign becomes.
Whereas it should be “we are one, despite our differences”, which I think was the approach that had success in the 90s and 2000s.
That’s the reality, unfortunately.
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Lol judging by the comments r/europe is done with their “tolerance” because yall throat’s are being showed with lgbt as if yall ain’t showing heterosexuality all day everyday
People who are down voting this are in huge denial…….
Lmao if Europe is a toxic environment they should try living in Arabian countries for a couple of years.
Y’all be saying all this and then go google lesbian porn at 1AM. Trans people are getting stabbed, assaulted and teenagers are being stabbed and beaten up. It’s easy to miss what is happening when it isn’t happening to you.
Frankly, I totally get why. Used to be a time it was all about people who simply love differently from the majority being accepted and understood and not discriminated against based on something they cannot choose or control.
Back then, the people who said it would become what it is today were right-wing lunatics shouting incoherent nonsense. It wasn’t about schools or kids or everything being LGBT, just about being accepted and allowed to be happy. Nowadays I sometimes find myself thinking some of those voices were seeing the future and I worry when I hear what the voices of today are saying.
The social shift to the right the western world has gone through over the last year or so is kinda worrying
r/europe when the US does something backwards: “*Oh, what barbarians! I for one am blessed to live in enlightened and civilized Europa, where we’re so far above all this base filth!*”
r/europe when gays, trans people or gypsies are so much as mentioned: *[removed]*
Wow, these comments are something else… You guys are proving that what this article is talking about is true. There’s so much fucking hate for literally no reason. How exactly do LGBT+ people have such an impact on your life to the extend that you feel the need to target us with your hatred? It’s pathetic and vile really.
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Is this the weekly r/europe trans bashing thread?
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Wow, greater economic pressure increase lack of understanding and willingness to vilify
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Most of the comments section is heterosexuals saying it isn’t true (because presumably they know better than actual gay people) or if they do agree they quickly justify the hatred and dismiss any arguments.
As if to say “stop trying to be different, fall in line like the rest of us. You’ll get your rights eventually, just stop making so much noise about equal rights”
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There has been a resurgence of right-wing “conservative” extremists and new people in the “top-G” segment of the population. Figures such as Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate have gotten more followers recently.
Roe v Wade and similar changes in law has given a platform to the uneducated. If it happens somewhere in the world, it can easily spill over and then a flood happens. An example is how any type of education is seen as highly sexual and that gay people just existing near a child are often accused of predatory tendencies.
Finally, in the last few years all aspects of LGBT has been shoved down many peoples throats. From drag shows and visits to elementary schools (I know 90% weren’t necessarily bad, but the last 10% are what everyone posted on social media), stories of MTF trans individuals taking advantage of sports regulations and prisons, people suddenly taking it too far with asinine pronouns (not they/them, but things like xe/xy/xem, etc.) just to be different. Also using words such as “tolerant” and “intolerant” are kinda dumb. Surely better terms can be applied.
There have been sooooo many things from both sides of the “argument” that I honestly don’t see how it could have ended differently. Shame that the majority who just want to enjoy life without persecution have to endure this vile hatred.
The comments check out.
Absolutely no surprise Reddit continues the evil streak.
Holy shit, this thread is an apocalyptic dumpster fire
Christ wtf is happening to this subreddit with these vile comments
I don’t know why I assumed the European countries were more tolerant than the US, but I was truly shocked when I wandered past a LARGE protest in Paris over a new law that would allow single mothers and lesbians to adopt children.
I didnt know what it was about, so I asked one of the people who was handing out information. Turns out she was hard of hearing, but she explained how they wanted to support the traditional roles of fathers and fight against this bill.
She asked me what I thought, and I replied that I loved it, I just didn’t think it went far enough. That we should also restrict Muslims from adopting, because I wanted to support traditional Christian values. That we should keep immigrants in general from adopting, so we could enforce traditional French values. And certainly we must prevent the deaf or disabled from adopting, I mean can you imagine the horrors of raising a child with a parent that can’t speak in the traditional way?
I didn’t hang around too long to see how that settled, but the look on her face right as I said it was all I could have hoped for.
Because they get fed the same ChristoFascist propaganda america does. People have seen the model in the states and the money they can make from it and of course they jump into that grift and hate with both feet.
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What’s the I bit ?
I have the LGBT thing but there is a new letter now.
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Shame that in the modern age people can be so animalistic towards others.
> Europeans who identify as LGBTI face an increasingly toxic, violent and even deadly environment, despite several legislative victories achieved over the past year, a new report has warned.
>
> Suicides among the LGBTI population have climbed up, migration movements to flee repression have intensified and the space for civil society has gradually shrunk across the continent, the paper says.
>
> The situation of trans people has become of particular concern as hateful rhetoric, polarised politics and deceptive arguments coalesced into a climate of insecurity and hostility.
>
> Meanwhile, education has turned into a “battleground” as the progress on sexual education is “challenged at a fundamental level” in countries like Hungary, Serbia, Russia, Italy and the United Kingdom.
>
> The findings were compiled in the annual report of ILGA-Europe, an umbrella NGO that encompasses over 600 entities across Europe and Central Asia, and make for sobering reading.
>
> Released on Monday morning, the study shows the steepest rise in anti-LGBTI violence since the organisation began publishing its annual report 12 years ago.
>
> The trends in 2022 present not only a marked increase in the number of attacks but especially in the severity and lethality with which they were conducted, such as the shootings in Bratislava and in Oslo, where the attackers were said to have purposely targeted queer people.
>
> “It’s deliberate attacks with a wish to kill,” says Evelyne Paradis, executive director at ILGA-Europe.
>
> The report pays no mind to the traditional West-East divide and instead points the finger at a long list of European countries where anti-LGBTI hate crimes are “on the rise,” including France, Hungary, Germany, Montenegro, Iceland, Romania, Spain, Turkey, Switzerland and Russia.
>
> The reasons behind this violence are multi-fold and vary from country to country but they all can be traced back to one common pattern: hateful rhetoric.
>
> “There’s a rise in hate speech – and hate speech often by politicians, by elected officials, by key opinion leaders and, dare I say, also hate speech that has been allowed to be disseminated by the media as well,” Paradis told Euronews in an interview.
>
> “Hateful speech always has an impact. It always translates, at one point or another, into physical violence, because it does contribute to creating a climate where physical violence is enabled.”
>
> In a positive evolution, the report notes this rise in hate crime has been met with a rise in successful prosecutions as European courts become more responsive to bias-motivated violence.
>
> However, the legal cases take place only “after the fact” and have little bearing in the prevention of the violence itself, Paradis said, which is the task of elected representatives and law enforcement.
>
> **’Enormous backlash’ against trans people**
>
> Throughout the study, which covers developments across the 54 countries in which ILGA-Europe’s affiliates are present, a key area of concern is the situation of trans people, who are reported to face an “enormous backlash” and persistent legal obstacles.
>
> Trans people frequently seek legal recognition of their affirmed gender, which is different from the sex they were assigned at birth, through the issuance of a new certificate.
>
> This process, known as gender recognition, is wildly different across Europe: some states provide self-identification to make the change easier while others demand a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria, a requirement that activists oppose because it equates the trans identity to a mental health disorder.
>
> Over the years, as trans rights made inroads into legislatures, the debate has turned fiercer and the opposition louder, diluting the human dimension of the issues at stake and endangering the physical and mental health of trans people, Paradis said.
>
> “Trans people are an easy target for right-wing politicians, and they’re an easy target because there is still a prevailing lack of understanding of what the realities of trans people are, what the reality of being trans is,” Paradis said.
>
> “It’s been very difficult to have civil discussions around much-needed laws that actually protect people because amidst all of this people are being dehumanised.”
>
> Spain and Finland are among the European countries that recently passed progressive laws to strengthen trans rights, an effort that came about only after a protracted and heated back-and-forth.
>
> In the United Kingdom, where trans rights are often placed in direct opposition to women’s rights, the subject has become an even hotter topic of conversation, acquiring the characteristics of a culture war.
>
> Last month, Westminster took the unusual step to block Scotland’s new gender recognition bill, based on a system of self-identification, arguing it could have a detrimental impact on nationwide equality laws. In response, Holyrood called the move a “full-frontal attack” on its democratically-elected parliament.
>
> Still, despite the negative trends seen throughout 2022, the ILGA-Europe report highlights positive developments across the continent, including new bans on conversion therapies and unnecessary interventions on intersex children, whose bodies do not fit a strict male-female binary.
>
> Additionally, the study says, 2022 saw same-sex marriage becoming legal in Switzerland and Slovenia, a first in Eastern Europe, and notable progress in same-sex parenthood rights in Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Czech Republic, Lithuania and Spain.
>
> “All of these positive changes are made possible because people are still fighting and they’re still determined, despite the fact that the context is getting not easier for them,” Paradis said.
>
> “The community is still very much determined and able to create change. So for me, that remains the glimmer of hope.”
Edit: [The actual report, if you wanna look at it.](https://ilga-europe.org/report/annual-review-2023/) It’s an annual review of developments during the last year on a country-by-country basis.
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I think… the problem is that, no matter how noble a cause… the more you push something on people, the more they are going to resist it.
I think we peaked in our tolerance about 5-10 years ago on this one, and since then it has become a total minefield of TLAs and job losing pitfalls, to the point where people’s attitudes towards the whole theme are turning negative. And at the extremes of that negativity you’re going to get toxicity and violence.
There becomes an increasing sense of “them and us”, the more aggressive the campaign becomes.
Whereas it should be “we are one, despite our differences”, which I think was the approach that had success in the 90s and 2000s.
That’s the reality, unfortunately.
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Lol judging by the comments r/europe is done with their “tolerance” because yall throat’s are being showed with lgbt as if yall ain’t showing heterosexuality all day everyday
People who are down voting this are in huge denial…….
Lmao if Europe is a toxic environment they should try living in Arabian countries for a couple of years.
Y’all be saying all this and then go google lesbian porn at 1AM. Trans people are getting stabbed, assaulted and teenagers are being stabbed and beaten up. It’s easy to miss what is happening when it isn’t happening to you.
Frankly, I totally get why. Used to be a time it was all about people who simply love differently from the majority being accepted and understood and not discriminated against based on something they cannot choose or control.
Back then, the people who said it would become what it is today were right-wing lunatics shouting incoherent nonsense. It wasn’t about schools or kids or everything being LGBT, just about being accepted and allowed to be happy. Nowadays I sometimes find myself thinking some of those voices were seeing the future and I worry when I hear what the voices of today are saying.
The social shift to the right the western world has gone through over the last year or so is kinda worrying
r/europe when the US does something backwards: “*Oh, what barbarians! I for one am blessed to live in enlightened and civilized Europa, where we’re so far above all this base filth!*”
r/europe when gays, trans people or gypsies are so much as mentioned: *[removed]*
Wow, these comments are something else… You guys are proving that what this article is talking about is true. There’s so much fucking hate for literally no reason. How exactly do LGBT+ people have such an impact on your life to the extend that you feel the need to target us with your hatred? It’s pathetic and vile really.
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Is this the weekly r/europe trans bashing thread?
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Wow, greater economic pressure increase lack of understanding and willingness to vilify
[removed]
Most of the comments section is heterosexuals saying it isn’t true (because presumably they know better than actual gay people) or if they do agree they quickly justify the hatred and dismiss any arguments.
As if to say “stop trying to be different, fall in line like the rest of us. You’ll get your rights eventually, just stop making so much noise about equal rights”
[removed]
There has been a resurgence of right-wing “conservative” extremists and new people in the “top-G” segment of the population. Figures such as Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate have gotten more followers recently.
Roe v Wade and similar changes in law has given a platform to the uneducated. If it happens somewhere in the world, it can easily spill over and then a flood happens. An example is how any type of education is seen as highly sexual and that gay people just existing near a child are often accused of predatory tendencies.
Finally, in the last few years all aspects of LGBT has been shoved down many peoples throats. From drag shows and visits to elementary schools (I know 90% weren’t necessarily bad, but the last 10% are what everyone posted on social media), stories of MTF trans individuals taking advantage of sports regulations and prisons, people suddenly taking it too far with asinine pronouns (not they/them, but things like xe/xy/xem, etc.) just to be different. Also using words such as “tolerant” and “intolerant” are kinda dumb. Surely better terms can be applied.
There have been sooooo many things from both sides of the “argument” that I honestly don’t see how it could have ended differently. Shame that the majority who just want to enjoy life without persecution have to endure this vile hatred.
The comments check out.
Absolutely no surprise Reddit continues the evil streak.
Holy shit, this thread is an apocalyptic dumpster fire
Christ wtf is happening to this subreddit with these vile comments
I don’t know why I assumed the European countries were more tolerant than the US, but I was truly shocked when I wandered past a LARGE protest in Paris over a new law that would allow single mothers and lesbians to adopt children.
I didnt know what it was about, so I asked one of the people who was handing out information. Turns out she was hard of hearing, but she explained how they wanted to support the traditional roles of fathers and fight against this bill.
She asked me what I thought, and I replied that I loved it, I just didn’t think it went far enough. That we should also restrict Muslims from adopting, because I wanted to support traditional Christian values. That we should keep immigrants in general from adopting, so we could enforce traditional French values. And certainly we must prevent the deaf or disabled from adopting, I mean can you imagine the horrors of raising a child with a parent that can’t speak in the traditional way?
I didn’t hang around too long to see how that settled, but the look on her face right as I said it was all I could have hoped for.
Because they get fed the same ChristoFascist propaganda america does. People have seen the model in the states and the money they can make from it and of course they jump into that grift and hate with both feet.
Not surprised.