It’s horrifying to think we’re apparently less than a year away from companies wanting to let people loose to remote control vehicles on public roads, with no regulation around safety, traceability or security.
This desperately needs banning before anyone tries it, before considering if there are adequate safety nets in place to allow it in the future.
now THATS an upper management wet dream. no tacho trace, no mandatory rest periods, no compensation for awkward hours, no tests for being a coked up drunkard. just them and their little lenovo xp desktop playing eurotruck simulator at 12fps
add in aggressive ignorance of technology, let alone latency to make this impossible. or security.
then the belief they have found their way around laws restricting their business they dont respect specifically because corpo bullshit excuses about how directors shouldnt go to prison for things they orchestrated, manipulated and bullied into happening.
also. had a few of these ***demo***d in northern ireland and iraq iirc.
Agreed; how do you take a breath sample from someone sat at a computer in another country?
It’s dangerous enough with people actually in the vehicles, able to react in real time.
I’d rather not be killed because someones laptop screen went black or they had some lag.
Controlling from a remote location will also absolutely make people behave more dangerously with them, even if the technology was perfect. Personally, automated vehicles worry me a huge amount – I’d only start to be a little more optimistic if they were on rails like giant scalextric…though not driven like them !!
Yeah that’s an aggressively crap idea. You just know it’ll end up with someone in charge of like four cars at once. If they crash one, getting three out of four to the destination ain’t bad right?
Remote driver ploughs their car into a crowd? “Well unfortunately they’re based in Belarus and Lukashenko is trying to make Putin laugh by acting like it didn’t happen”
Is that true for remote controlled politicians as well?
What in the actual fuck. How is this not already illegal?
I’m going to play devils advocate here: what about remote farming?
No getting up at 4am to plough around the weather.
Granted harvesting won’t change, but for ploughing, drilling, or spraying/mucking, maybe there are some advantages?
Why the hell are they even *remotely* considering something like this when they won’t allow people to use electric scooters in public.
Truck sim players have been training for this for years.
There are small wheeled drones that do food deliveries around Milton Keynes (run by a company called [Starship Technologies](https://www.starship.xyz/)), and Amazon are doing a very similar thing at some US universities.
The drones travel at slow speeds and are mostly automatic, but if the drone gets in a confusing situation they get remote controlled by a team of humans in Brazil.
For driving big lorries, I’d imagine in the near future they’ll be self driving on motorways and straight roads, with humans taking over for parking and complex manoeuvres.
From playing computer games, I’d imagine it’d be a lot easier doing difficult manoeuvres if the lorry could raise a 360° degree camera from the roof to get a birds eye view.
Self driving vehicles do raise a lot of interesting legal problems though. Pulling numbers out of my ass here, but if a typical human driven lorry causes two deaths per 100,000 miles, and self driving lorry only causes one death per 100,000 miles, then the self driving vehicles are safer, but the human driven lorry manufacturer is very, very rarely responsible for the deaths, while the makers of the self driving lorry would be facing corporate manslaughter.
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It’s horrifying to think we’re apparently less than a year away from companies wanting to let people loose to remote control vehicles on public roads, with no regulation around safety, traceability or security.
This desperately needs banning before anyone tries it, before considering if there are adequate safety nets in place to allow it in the future.
now THATS an upper management wet dream. no tacho trace, no mandatory rest periods, no compensation for awkward hours, no tests for being a coked up drunkard. just them and their little lenovo xp desktop playing eurotruck simulator at 12fps
add in aggressive ignorance of technology, let alone latency to make this impossible. or security.
then the belief they have found their way around laws restricting their business they dont respect specifically because corpo bullshit excuses about how directors shouldnt go to prison for things they orchestrated, manipulated and bullied into happening.
also. had a few of these ***demo***d in northern ireland and iraq iirc.
Agreed; how do you take a breath sample from someone sat at a computer in another country?
They already do this in Milton Keynes but to get around the laws they have a driver sat in the car to take over if needed. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59859587.amp
It’s dangerous enough with people actually in the vehicles, able to react in real time.
I’d rather not be killed because someones laptop screen went black or they had some lag.
Controlling from a remote location will also absolutely make people behave more dangerously with them, even if the technology was perfect. Personally, automated vehicles worry me a huge amount – I’d only start to be a little more optimistic if they were on rails like giant scalextric…though not driven like them !!
Yeah that’s an aggressively crap idea. You just know it’ll end up with someone in charge of like four cars at once. If they crash one, getting three out of four to the destination ain’t bad right?
Remote driver ploughs their car into a crowd? “Well unfortunately they’re based in Belarus and Lukashenko is trying to make Putin laugh by acting like it didn’t happen”
Is that true for remote controlled politicians as well?
What in the actual fuck. How is this not already illegal?
I’m going to play devils advocate here: what about remote farming?
No getting up at 4am to plough around the weather.
Granted harvesting won’t change, but for ploughing, drilling, or spraying/mucking, maybe there are some advantages?
Why the hell are they even *remotely* considering something like this when they won’t allow people to use electric scooters in public.
Truck sim players have been training for this for years.
There are small wheeled drones that do food deliveries around Milton Keynes (run by a company called [Starship Technologies](https://www.starship.xyz/)), and Amazon are doing a very similar thing at some US universities.
The drones travel at slow speeds and are mostly automatic, but if the drone gets in a confusing situation they get remote controlled by a team of humans in Brazil.
For driving big lorries, I’d imagine in the near future they’ll be self driving on motorways and straight roads, with humans taking over for parking and complex manoeuvres.
From playing computer games, I’d imagine it’d be a lot easier doing difficult manoeuvres if the lorry could raise a 360° degree camera from the roof to get a birds eye view.
Self driving vehicles do raise a lot of interesting legal problems though. Pulling numbers out of my ass here, but if a typical human driven lorry causes two deaths per 100,000 miles, and self driving lorry only causes one death per 100,000 miles, then the self driving vehicles are safer, but the human driven lorry manufacturer is very, very rarely responsible for the deaths, while the makers of the self driving lorry would be facing corporate manslaughter.