Ministry of Truth IE Edition, it worked so well for the yanks.
Bad idea. Cant trust the government to get anything right so how are they going fo get this right. And alot of “disinformation” can only be proven to be disinformation after alot of analysis and time. Go out and do your own research and get both sides of an argument and analyse. Never take information on social media as fact and remember that mainstream media often has bias. After that go read an actual book on the subject.
Ireland needs US-style protections for freedom of speech – and then needs to expand those protections, to enforce them on social media companies.
Govern me harder Daddy
Would love to know what the false and harmful “disinformation” is. Not saying there hasn’t been any, but this kind of stuff needs to be laid out with the back up for the verifiably true info alongside it. Otherwise a bad precedent is being set to censor what isn’t liked by the establishment. I realise that last sentence may come across as very Alex Jones haha.
Last weekend my mother was saying how the person who dose her hair was talking about “how now a local school has to put in a litter box for a student who acts like a cat “this was from an anti transgender group and never happened anywhere, its insane how these misinformation conspiracies spread from America and people will read it once online and just go to tell everyone they know with confidence without fact checking
I’m glad it mentions transparency at least because true transparency is the only way this could be acceptable.
Largest focus to stop the spread would be education. If people know how to truly review sources and data and not just “do their own research” in an information bubble it would go a lot further than simply policing what is said/spread.
Gonna be about as useful as the people in charge of tackling homelessness..
This isn’t good either. Who decides what’s true? Censorship of any kind is bad.
Not every conversation is journalism though. People can and should be allowed to be wrong, publicly, on important topics.
Who decides what misinformation is?.. free speech is important as those of us with a brain can distinguish what’s fact or fiction. It’s amazing how these supposed liberals can’t realise they try to push through these Fascist ideas and not realise they are what they apparently oppose.
This sounds sketchy as fuck, who’s gonna be in charge of it? Who gets to decide what is and isn’t true? No thanks
State is unable to control the narrative even with no alternative media
Excellent – I think ireland is well suited towards working on this kind of project. A well educated population that likes taking the piss and complaining, with all of the best vectors for misinformation conveniently headquartered down the road for tax purposes
Reminds of those ads rte were running which made them seem like the arbiter of truth against online disinformation.
Rte is one of the most biased orgs when it comes to government reporting.
George Orwell’s 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a fucking manual.
Why stop at a working group? I think a ministry of truth would be truly fantastic.
I’m fairly conflicted on this one.
On the one hand, people have a right to information and a right to get informed, and this should probably extend to the right to be misinformed and be wrong in public, if it happens. If it does, then you’d hope they will ultimately be corrected or educated and learn what was wrong and why they were wrong.
But it doesn’t usually work like that in reality.
And now, with the added social media world that incentives people who deliberately make up bullshit or push false information, more people are becoming exposed to false information and being radicalised or at the very least joining protests, refusing medicine, etc based on made up bullshit.
So, the part of me that’s in favour of it looks at the past 3 months and sees how lots of people have been lured into a belief that every non-white asylum seeker that has recently arrived here is supposedly hell bent on sexually assaulting women/children, for example. And that makes me think the government, as the ultimate body running this place, needs to so something and _be better, sharper, educated_ on how to counter that and try and stop it happening. Disinformation is real and now it’s easy for anyone to make it or and spread it.
It’s still hard to shake those ‘Ministry of Truth’ connotations but I think, believing the govt is acting in the best interest of trying to stop that kind of disinformation, that this initiative is a smart idea. If ministers become more informed, it’s definitely worthwhile.
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The journal comments… 😂
Are they closing down social media and messaging apps?
I don’t like this, lots of things thought to be “disinformation” later turn out to be true. Who actually wants this kind of censorship?
Who gets to decide what is and isn’t the truth?
Sounds ominous as fuck.
I’m in the majority of people who now favour tighter restrictions
I have arrived at this position because I get my news from mainstream media
[Is this misinformation?](https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2023/0216/1357159-over-60-of-asylum-applicants-at-dublin-airport-had-no-id/#:~:text=In%20the%20period%20from%20February,those%20who%20had%20no%20documentation.)
Ministry of Truth IE Edition, it worked so well for the yanks.
Bad idea. Cant trust the government to get anything right so how are they going fo get this right. And alot of “disinformation” can only be proven to be disinformation after alot of analysis and time. Go out and do your own research and get both sides of an argument and analyse. Never take information on social media as fact and remember that mainstream media often has bias. After that go read an actual book on the subject.
Ireland needs US-style protections for freedom of speech – and then needs to expand those protections, to enforce them on social media companies.
Govern me harder Daddy
Would love to know what the false and harmful “disinformation” is. Not saying there hasn’t been any, but this kind of stuff needs to be laid out with the back up for the verifiably true info alongside it. Otherwise a bad precedent is being set to censor what isn’t liked by the establishment. I realise that last sentence may come across as very Alex Jones haha.
Last weekend my mother was saying how the person who dose her hair was talking about “how now a local school has to put in a litter box for a student who acts like a cat “this was from an anti transgender group and never happened anywhere, its insane how these misinformation conspiracies spread from America and people will read it once online and just go to tell everyone they know with confidence without fact checking
I’m glad it mentions transparency at least because true transparency is the only way this could be acceptable.
Largest focus to stop the spread would be education. If people know how to truly review sources and data and not just “do their own research” in an information bubble it would go a lot further than simply policing what is said/spread.
Gonna be about as useful as the people in charge of tackling homelessness..
This isn’t good either. Who decides what’s true? Censorship of any kind is bad.
Not every conversation is journalism though. People can and should be allowed to be wrong, publicly, on important topics.
Who decides what misinformation is?.. free speech is important as those of us with a brain can distinguish what’s fact or fiction. It’s amazing how these supposed liberals can’t realise they try to push through these Fascist ideas and not realise they are what they apparently oppose.
This sounds sketchy as fuck, who’s gonna be in charge of it? Who gets to decide what is and isn’t true? No thanks
State is unable to control the narrative even with no alternative media
Excellent – I think ireland is well suited towards working on this kind of project. A well educated population that likes taking the piss and complaining, with all of the best vectors for misinformation conveniently headquartered down the road for tax purposes
Reminds of those ads rte were running which made them seem like the arbiter of truth against online disinformation.
Rte is one of the most biased orgs when it comes to government reporting.
George Orwell’s 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a fucking manual.
Why stop at a working group? I think a ministry of truth would be truly fantastic.
I’m fairly conflicted on this one.
On the one hand, people have a right to information and a right to get informed, and this should probably extend to the right to be misinformed and be wrong in public, if it happens. If it does, then you’d hope they will ultimately be corrected or educated and learn what was wrong and why they were wrong.
But it doesn’t usually work like that in reality.
And now, with the added social media world that incentives people who deliberately make up bullshit or push false information, more people are becoming exposed to false information and being radicalised or at the very least joining protests, refusing medicine, etc based on made up bullshit.
So, the part of me that’s in favour of it looks at the past 3 months and sees how lots of people have been lured into a belief that every non-white asylum seeker that has recently arrived here is supposedly hell bent on sexually assaulting women/children, for example. And that makes me think the government, as the ultimate body running this place, needs to so something and _be better, sharper, educated_ on how to counter that and try and stop it happening. Disinformation is real and now it’s easy for anyone to make it or and spread it.
It’s still hard to shake those ‘Ministry of Truth’ connotations but I think, believing the govt is acting in the best interest of trying to stop that kind of disinformation, that this initiative is a smart idea. If ministers become more informed, it’s definitely worthwhile.
What on earth could possibly go wrong here then?