Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine are all locked in territorial disputes with Moscow. The leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan are attending the summit but are not seeking EU membership. Belarus’s President Alexander Lukashenko, hit by Western sanctions over his human rights record, stayed away.
Netherlands will be against, as usual. France is also a traditional opponent with their Gaullist bullshit. Belgium follows the latter two. Germany is in Russia’s pocket so that’s a no as well. Southern Europe has generally been against all eastward expansion as they fear less structural funds.
Not optimistic even though I strongly wish it.
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yea have fun. hope it wont happen in the next 30 years
I think they should definitely be allowed to join when they have fulfilled the criteria for it.
The issue of their seized territories is more than a little thorny though. Perhaps those territories can be given some kind of special status and be exempt from EU commitments. Expecting EU countries to join wars for them would be hard to achieve and possibly counter-productive. The near term goal I think should be to get most of these countries into the EU and then use diplomatic means (or whatever’s reasonable) to try to get Transnistria, Crimea and Georgia’s territories back.
I don’t really want to give them money nor voting rights though. I suppose if the seperatist regions are excluded, they fulfill the requirements, and they don’t take too much money it would be ok
Doesn’t sound as a good idea. The EU is already unstable enough due to the fact that there are too much differences between groups of members. The EU should first be reorganized before new members can be considered.
The first two have a ton of internal issues they will have to solve before they can enter. The latter one isn’t even in Europe FFS!
Just let them in, who cares by now? Sweden would probably be better off with 1 million Ukrainians and their conservative votes 😀
Moldova should and could join. Ukraine should but can’t join. Georgia shouldn’t join (not a European country).
Having clear roadmap with executable chapters would certainly help.
This way we could pressure our politicians to execute reforms.
Realistically though, I don’t see a way in which Ukraine gets membership in the next couple of decades. We could get EEA deal eventually though.
How would Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia benefit from the membership? Won’t imports from the EU significantly outweigh exports? In what sectors can they compete with EU production?
After Polexit in 2027 there will be some space for them.
I mean with borders this unstable, you’re not really doing yourself a favor by allowing them in. Especially with nutcases like (formerly) the UK + two bellends that actively veto and hate everything the EU does, except for their grants.
As a georgian i think our goverment hasnt been trying to lean more towards west.ukrain has been doing quite good lately and im hoping all 3 of us will join EU.
After Poland and Hungary finally leave the EU – the cash machine they hate -, there may be space for nEUwbies. Each of the three countries Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia comes with ‘a Russia issue’ though, so it won’t be easy as long as Putin is in power. For several reasons, Moldova would probably be the easiest addition, provided its Transnistria issue can be settled.
It’s gonna be a cold winter in Europe.
I get Ukraine and Moldova,but Georgia?Georgia is not even in Europe.
This absolutely cannot happen and will not happen. All three of these countries are too unstable, and have far too small economies to be admitted in. I’m sorry if this sounds harsh, but it’s the truth. The EU has several internal problems of its own and it cannot afford to admit three more countries, one of which is still fighting local conflicts in its own territory.
Only in their dreams 🤣🤣
Georgians are too stubborn. Really friendly and welcomi g people. But stubborn. If they want to join the EU, they have to accept and embrace our values.
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Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine are all locked in territorial disputes with Moscow. The leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan are attending the summit but are not seeking EU membership. Belarus’s President Alexander Lukashenko, hit by Western sanctions over his human rights record, stayed away.
Netherlands will be against, as usual. France is also a traditional opponent with their Gaullist bullshit. Belgium follows the latter two. Germany is in Russia’s pocket so that’s a no as well. Southern Europe has generally been against all eastward expansion as they fear less structural funds.
Not optimistic even though I strongly wish it.
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yea have fun. hope it wont happen in the next 30 years
I think they should definitely be allowed to join when they have fulfilled the criteria for it.
The issue of their seized territories is more than a little thorny though. Perhaps those territories can be given some kind of special status and be exempt from EU commitments. Expecting EU countries to join wars for them would be hard to achieve and possibly counter-productive. The near term goal I think should be to get most of these countries into the EU and then use diplomatic means (or whatever’s reasonable) to try to get Transnistria, Crimea and Georgia’s territories back.
I don’t really want to give them money nor voting rights though. I suppose if the seperatist regions are excluded, they fulfill the requirements, and they don’t take too much money it would be ok
Doesn’t sound as a good idea. The EU is already unstable enough due to the fact that there are too much differences between groups of members. The EU should first be reorganized before new members can be considered.
The first two have a ton of internal issues they will have to solve before they can enter. The latter one isn’t even in Europe FFS!
Just let them in, who cares by now? Sweden would probably be better off with 1 million Ukrainians and their conservative votes 😀
Moldova should and could join. Ukraine should but can’t join. Georgia shouldn’t join (not a European country).
Having clear roadmap with executable chapters would certainly help.
This way we could pressure our politicians to execute reforms.
Realistically though, I don’t see a way in which Ukraine gets membership in the next couple of decades. We could get EEA deal eventually though.
How would Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia benefit from the membership? Won’t imports from the EU significantly outweigh exports? In what sectors can they compete with EU production?
After Polexit in 2027 there will be some space for them.
I mean with borders this unstable, you’re not really doing yourself a favor by allowing them in. Especially with nutcases like (formerly) the UK + two bellends that actively veto and hate everything the EU does, except for their grants.
As a georgian i think our goverment hasnt been trying to lean more towards west.ukrain has been doing quite good lately and im hoping all 3 of us will join EU.
After Poland and Hungary finally leave the EU – the cash machine they hate -, there may be space for nEUwbies. Each of the three countries Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia comes with ‘a Russia issue’ though, so it won’t be easy as long as Putin is in power. For several reasons, Moldova would probably be the easiest addition, provided its Transnistria issue can be settled.
It’s gonna be a cold winter in Europe.
I get Ukraine and Moldova,but Georgia?Georgia is not even in Europe.
This absolutely cannot happen and will not happen. All three of these countries are too unstable, and have far too small economies to be admitted in. I’m sorry if this sounds harsh, but it’s the truth. The EU has several internal problems of its own and it cannot afford to admit three more countries, one of which is still fighting local conflicts in its own territory.
Only in their dreams 🤣🤣
Georgians are too stubborn. Really friendly and welcomi g people. But stubborn. If they want to join the EU, they have to accept and embrace our values.