>The fire control system offers hunter-killer as well as killer-killer capabilities, while an autotracker can be used to automate the firing process
That’s cheating, no aimbots!
to be precise the contract was signed for 1400 of these, they also announced the start of the developement of the heavier variant of it comparable to south korean AS21 Redback.
How long until Poland becomes one of the strongest if not the strongest army in Europe? (not including Russia)
One thousand IFVs and 400 specialist vehicles were ordered.
Additionally the announced heavy IFV project will most likely be based on K9 drivetrain and ZSSW-30 turret with a new chassis (prototype is expected to be finished by the end of 2023). [This information is not in this article.]
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>Source: [https://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/au/articles/aktualnosci/bwp-borsuk-dla-sil-zbrojnych-rp/](https://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/au/articles/aktualnosci/bwp-borsuk-dla-sil-zbrojnych-rp/)
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>The agreement, concluded between the Armament Agency, representing the State Treasury of the Republic of Poland, and a consortium of companies comprising: Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa S.A. and Huta Stalowa Wola S.A., is aimed at defining the principles and conditions for concluding individual executive contracts related to the supply of BORSUK infantry fighting vehicles (BWP) and the entire family of specialised tracked vehicles based on the universal modular tracked platform (UMPG) for the Armed Forces of the Republic of Poland.
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>As a result of the concluded framework agreement, a total of nearly 1,400 vehicles will be acquired over the course of the entire project, of which more than 1,000 are tobe BWP BORSUK.
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>Other specialist vehicles will include: ŻUK tracked reconnaissance transporters, OSET tracked command vehicles, GOTEM medical evacuation vehicles, GEKON technical protection vehicles and ARES contamination reconnaissance transporters. The estimated value of executive orders to be awarded on the basis of the contract in question will reach several dozen billion PLN, while deliveries of the first vehicles of selected types are planned already in the years 2024-2025.
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>It is worth emphasising that the BORSUK BWP is a fundamental response to the current and future needs of mechanised armies and will be the dominant solution in thisarea in the Polish Armed Forces in the future, while the very process of generational replacement of the post-Soviet BWP-1 will require intensificationof the contractor’s production capacities in order to strengthen the defencepotential of the Polish Armed Forces as urgently as possible.
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>The BWP BORSUK is being developed on the basis of a contract concluded between the National Centre for Research and Development (NCBR) and a consortium of Polish entities, of which Huta Stalowa Wola S.A. is the leader. It is worth noting that on 28 April 2022, an additional four prototypes were contracted fortesting in a system environment. The results of these tests will influence the target configuration of the BWP BORSUK and the development of the product insubsequent production tranches. According to the agreement, the above prototypes should reach the Polish Armed Forces by the end of the first half of this year.
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>The Contractor is also carrying out work related to the construction and development of an experimental vehicle for the entire New Combat Infantry Fighting Vehicle project, which also includes other vehicles based on auniversal modular crawler platform. This vehicle will be used to test further innovative solutions.
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>BWP BORSUK, which is based on the Universal Modular Tracked Platform (UMPG), is equipped with a remotely controlled turret system (ZSSW-30). It is crewed by 3 soldiers: a commander, an armament operator and a driver. The vehicle is designed to transport 6 soldiers to the battlefield region, ensuring an adequate level of protection, as well as to carry out tasks related to the support of infantry subunits using on-board weapons. The vehicle, with the use of the on-board weapon system, has the ability to fight infantry, armoured vehicles, air targets and other objects used by the enemy, in any weather conditions and at any time of day.
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>The BWP BORSUK will also be a very effective tool in terms of interoperability with subdivisions of the K2 family of tanks, which will enterthe equipment of, among others, the 16th Mechanised Division. The vehicle is characterised by its high mobility and ability to overcome terrain obstacles, including water obstacles by swimming, and can be operated in various climatic conditions. The maximum speed when moving on paved roads is 65 km/h and swimming is 8 km/h. The combat weight in the basic variant is 28 tonnes.
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>A very important element of the BWP BORSUK is the aforementioned ZSSW-30 remotely controlled turret system, developed by Huta Stalowa Wola S.A. together with WB Electronics S.A., whose main armament is the Bushmaster Mk.44S automatic cannon allowing fire in automatic and semi-automatic mode, with the use of five different types of ammunition, including programmable ammunition. The secondary armament, integrated into the turret, is a cannon-coupled modified 7.62mm UKM-2000C machine gun. Additional armament includes a double anti-tank guidedmissile launcher.
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>Photo: Staff Sergeant Mariusz Kraśnicki/15 Giżycko Mechanised Brigade
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>Translated by DeepL
Could this possibly indicate further donations of existing equipment to Ukraine?
When it comes to polish language used in elements of the article: B for effort.
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It should be “Huta Stalowa Wola” (nominative) not “Hutę Stalowa Wola” (accusative) (“Stalowa Wola” being the proper name”), and “Nowy Pływający Bojowy Wóz Piechoty” (nominative) not “Nowego Pływającego Bojowego Wozu Piechoty” (genitive).
Sounds as if someone took a polish article and translated it poorly word by word.
Aa in Turkish we call it Porsuk (Honey Badger)
So Poland won the international lottery?
I’m not seeing where all this money is coming from to build & maintain such an impressive military 🤷♂️
Finally, our army still uses BMP-1 as the only IFV.
I hate so much how we humans spend so much time and effort on making machines like this. It’s no wonder that, despite automation and other advances, between this and consumerism and planned obsolescence, we still need to work 40h/week to make end’s meet.
How come Estonians have never heard of this webpage?
The source is suspicious to say the least.
With the insane amounts of weapons this government buys, I have to wonder: Where are all the soldiers who are going to operate these?
1000 K2 tanks and 1400 IFV’s is a lot. All of this needs to be accompanied by specialist vehicles (bridge layers, mine clearing tanks, armored recovery vehicles, command vehicles), trainers, engineers for repairs, logistics specialists etc. The same applies to the 366 M1 Abrams, 506 HIMARS, 288 Chunmoo, 460 K9 Thunder, 32 F-35, 48 FA-50, 96 AH-64 Apache.
Each of those systems requires a caravan of people behind it just to keep it operational. Those are numbers which the polish army simply does not have.
Either Poland has to send a lot of this into storage, sells it further, scraps part of the orders – or they _have_ to introduce conscription. There is no way the polish army can operate all of this without a conscript based army.
This seems like a much better option for Ukraine than U.S. Abrams.
They can deploy hundreds of these at a time.
So with all the other equipment thats 32 billion poland is buying military hardware for in the next 5 years.
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Badger, badger, badger, badger…
>The fire control system offers hunter-killer as well as killer-killer capabilities, while an autotracker can be used to automate the firing process
That’s cheating, no aimbots!
to be precise the contract was signed for 1400 of these, they also announced the start of the developement of the heavier variant of it comparable to south korean AS21 Redback.
How long until Poland becomes one of the strongest if not the strongest army in Europe? (not including Russia)
One thousand IFVs and 400 specialist vehicles were ordered.
Additionally the announced heavy IFV project will most likely be based on K9 drivetrain and ZSSW-30 turret with a new chassis (prototype is expected to be finished by the end of 2023). [This information is not in this article.]
​
>Source: [https://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/au/articles/aktualnosci/bwp-borsuk-dla-sil-zbrojnych-rp/](https://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/au/articles/aktualnosci/bwp-borsuk-dla-sil-zbrojnych-rp/)
>
>The agreement, concluded between the Armament Agency, representing the State Treasury of the Republic of Poland, and a consortium of companies comprising: Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa S.A. and Huta Stalowa Wola S.A., is aimed at defining the principles and conditions for concluding individual executive contracts related to the supply of BORSUK infantry fighting vehicles (BWP) and the entire family of specialised tracked vehicles based on the universal modular tracked platform (UMPG) for the Armed Forces of the Republic of Poland.
>
>As a result of the concluded framework agreement, a total of nearly 1,400 vehicles will be acquired over the course of the entire project, of which more than 1,000 are tobe BWP BORSUK.
>
>Other specialist vehicles will include: ŻUK tracked reconnaissance transporters, OSET tracked command vehicles, GOTEM medical evacuation vehicles, GEKON technical protection vehicles and ARES contamination reconnaissance transporters. The estimated value of executive orders to be awarded on the basis of the contract in question will reach several dozen billion PLN, while deliveries of the first vehicles of selected types are planned already in the years 2024-2025.
>
>It is worth emphasising that the BORSUK BWP is a fundamental response to the current and future needs of mechanised armies and will be the dominant solution in thisarea in the Polish Armed Forces in the future, while the very process of generational replacement of the post-Soviet BWP-1 will require intensificationof the contractor’s production capacities in order to strengthen the defencepotential of the Polish Armed Forces as urgently as possible.
>
>The BWP BORSUK is being developed on the basis of a contract concluded between the National Centre for Research and Development (NCBR) and a consortium of Polish entities, of which Huta Stalowa Wola S.A. is the leader. It is worth noting that on 28 April 2022, an additional four prototypes were contracted fortesting in a system environment. The results of these tests will influence the target configuration of the BWP BORSUK and the development of the product insubsequent production tranches. According to the agreement, the above prototypes should reach the Polish Armed Forces by the end of the first half of this year.
>
>The Contractor is also carrying out work related to the construction and development of an experimental vehicle for the entire New Combat Infantry Fighting Vehicle project, which also includes other vehicles based on auniversal modular crawler platform. This vehicle will be used to test further innovative solutions.
>
>BWP BORSUK, which is based on the Universal Modular Tracked Platform (UMPG), is equipped with a remotely controlled turret system (ZSSW-30). It is crewed by 3 soldiers: a commander, an armament operator and a driver. The vehicle is designed to transport 6 soldiers to the battlefield region, ensuring an adequate level of protection, as well as to carry out tasks related to the support of infantry subunits using on-board weapons. The vehicle, with the use of the on-board weapon system, has the ability to fight infantry, armoured vehicles, air targets and other objects used by the enemy, in any weather conditions and at any time of day.
>
>The BWP BORSUK will also be a very effective tool in terms of interoperability with subdivisions of the K2 family of tanks, which will enterthe equipment of, among others, the 16th Mechanised Division. The vehicle is characterised by its high mobility and ability to overcome terrain obstacles, including water obstacles by swimming, and can be operated in various climatic conditions. The maximum speed when moving on paved roads is 65 km/h and swimming is 8 km/h. The combat weight in the basic variant is 28 tonnes.
>
>A very important element of the BWP BORSUK is the aforementioned ZSSW-30 remotely controlled turret system, developed by Huta Stalowa Wola S.A. together with WB Electronics S.A., whose main armament is the Bushmaster Mk.44S automatic cannon allowing fire in automatic and semi-automatic mode, with the use of five different types of ammunition, including programmable ammunition. The secondary armament, integrated into the turret, is a cannon-coupled modified 7.62mm UKM-2000C machine gun. Additional armament includes a double anti-tank guidedmissile launcher.
>
>Photo: Staff Sergeant Mariusz Kraśnicki/15 Giżycko Mechanised Brigade
>
>Translated by DeepL
Could this possibly indicate further donations of existing equipment to Ukraine?
When it comes to polish language used in elements of the article: B for effort.
​
It should be “Huta Stalowa Wola” (nominative) not “Hutę Stalowa Wola” (accusative) (“Stalowa Wola” being the proper name”), and “Nowy Pływający Bojowy Wóz Piechoty” (nominative) not “Nowego Pływającego Bojowego Wozu Piechoty” (genitive).
Sounds as if someone took a polish article and translated it poorly word by word.
Aa in Turkish we call it Porsuk (Honey Badger)
So Poland won the international lottery?
I’m not seeing where all this money is coming from to build & maintain such an impressive military 🤷♂️
Finally, our army still uses BMP-1 as the only IFV.
I hate so much how we humans spend so much time and effort on making machines like this. It’s no wonder that, despite automation and other advances, between this and consumerism and planned obsolescence, we still need to work 40h/week to make end’s meet.
How come Estonians have never heard of this webpage?
The source is suspicious to say the least.
With the insane amounts of weapons this government buys, I have to wonder: Where are all the soldiers who are going to operate these?
1000 K2 tanks and 1400 IFV’s is a lot. All of this needs to be accompanied by specialist vehicles (bridge layers, mine clearing tanks, armored recovery vehicles, command vehicles), trainers, engineers for repairs, logistics specialists etc. The same applies to the 366 M1 Abrams, 506 HIMARS, 288 Chunmoo, 460 K9 Thunder, 32 F-35, 48 FA-50, 96 AH-64 Apache.
Each of those systems requires a caravan of people behind it just to keep it operational. Those are numbers which the polish army simply does not have.
Either Poland has to send a lot of this into storage, sells it further, scraps part of the orders – or they _have_ to introduce conscription. There is no way the polish army can operate all of this without a conscript based army.
This seems like a much better option for Ukraine than U.S. Abrams.
They can deploy hundreds of these at a time.
So with all the other equipment thats 32 billion poland is buying military hardware for in the next 5 years.
Oh yes its an election year.