> “believing that Jewish people are promoting immigration and …causes, such as LGBTQ+ rights, in the supposed hope of weakening white communities and lowering white birth rates”
I’m REALLY keen that the media do their fucking job this time around and report who is organising the protests.
Slippery slope to requiring permission to travel between them
Let’s all go on a walk to protest against walkable cities.
> Protesters were expected to **march** from the city centre towards Cowley Road
Shoulda driven.
None/hardly any of these protesting were from Oxford, the far right took a narrative and spun it out of control, huge numbers came in from Wales, the north etc – I know this as they were waving Welsh flags etc!!
Bit of a joke really and embrassing.
The people of Oxford generally welcome the schemes.
All the ones I met were seriously thick or properly bonkers. Doesn’t exactly help those with legitimate concerns when you’ve got a bunch of people banging on about “carbon is good we actually need more of it” claiming to represent you
British ain’t happy unless they are dodging fly tipped waste and dog shit whilst driving their oversized motors 5 minutes to the local Tesco.
This country is a dump.
What’s worrying is that these schemes have been hijacked by conspiracy nuts. Notice the ‘There is no climate crises’ banner in the article image
Really worrying how the far right qanon type conspiracy lunatics seem to have adopted this as their latest “cause” since the shite about “climate lockdown” started spreading. Rage inducing how much damage conspiracy theories are doing.
It’s not a traffic scheme per se. Its a WEF plan to stop movements of people.
I have friends who live there. The problem is that they are effectively barring certain major internal roads (they may not be physically blocked but fining people who travel on them is the same thing) without having done anything to increase capacity on the alternative routes or provide decent non-car alternatives. Someone who lives in one section of Oxford and works in another (inc in hospitals, schools etc) could now need to travel out to the ring road, round and back in again. Given how bad the ring road can be at rush hour already, that’s adding a lot of time to their journey. Its going to be particularly problematic for those with kids who need school/nursery drop offs too. The whole thing just seems terribly managed.
We are extorted by the government to own and drive our cars. We should be bloody well allowed to use the roads that we also paid and pay for. It’s a piss take what they’re trying to do.
Nice to see what was a ‘conspiracy’ a year ago is being shown as a real threat and being challenged by residents.
Everyone against reducing car usage needs to get their head in the game and keep up with the times.
How about instead of ruining the entire transport network with stupid laws on when and where you can drive, Oxford just invests in actually decent public transport and pedestrianisation? You can fit an entire medium sized suburban traffic jam’s worth of cars into a handful of buses or trams, plus public transit generates a hell of a lot of jobs, especially trams with all the conductors, electricians, mechanics and rail engineers!
But no, because “trams are too ugly for a beautiful southern university city like Oxford”, as if the horrible traffic situation isn’t infinitely more of an eyesore than a few overhead trolleybus wires or tram lines.
Just wait until the cameras are re-purposed or replaced with facial recognition units, the exemptions and the buses are all cancelled, and the effective block-by-fine is extended to everyone, even pedestrian and cyclist, using facial recognition. That is the real issue with 5G – it can handle the data rate needed to do that. It is already happening in China with so-called ‘jaywalkers’. It will extend to all pavements, and all pedestrians.
You obviously don’t understand politicians if you think that this will stop at being levied against cars. Ask yourself how many pen strokes, once they have a good enough internet connection to/from the camera, it would take to turn them on you and send you fines in the post based on your face?
Oh, and it was the last L**our government who tried to introduce ID cards, doubt it not that when(ever) they get back in, they will try again and facial recognition technology is good enough that your face is your registration plate and you will be getting fines just for walking through these filters. Oh and the council will find a way to force you onto the system unless you start pushing back now.
How is reducing available road space supposed to improve air quality? People in Britain keep their heating and aircon running (it’s a need, given the cold in winter and heat island effects in summer) so you can’t really turn engines off in the way you think you can. It would also be an irony if an electric car was carrying its backup generator on a trailer and someone ^accidentally^ left the registration plate off the trailer and the view of the main plate got blocked as well.
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Residential areas shouldn’t be used for cut through traffic
Strange how they were able to get to the road… almost like it being closed doesn’t actually matter
Given the way the media chose (in the recent trans book reader protest) to largely NOT point out that the protesters (‘Patriotic Alternative’) had an ideology that [HopeNotHate](https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/08/05/stop-drag-queen-story-hour-a-new-far-right-campaign-emerges/) describes as “fascist” and
> “believing that Jewish people are promoting immigration and …causes, such as LGBTQ+ rights, in the supposed hope of weakening white communities and lowering white birth rates”
I’m REALLY keen that the media do their fucking job this time around and report who is organising the protests.
Slippery slope to requiring permission to travel between them
Let’s all go on a walk to protest against walkable cities.
> Protesters were expected to **march** from the city centre towards Cowley Road
Shoulda driven.
None/hardly any of these protesting were from Oxford, the far right took a narrative and spun it out of control, huge numbers came in from Wales, the north etc – I know this as they were waving Welsh flags etc!!
Bit of a joke really and embrassing.
The people of Oxford generally welcome the schemes.
Details of the plans from [Oxford council](https://news.oxfordshire.gov.uk/six-traffic-filters-to-be-trialled-in-oxford/)
FullFact’s fact check on [some of the claims about it.](https://fullfact.org/online/Oxford-traffic-scheme/)
All the ones I met were seriously thick or properly bonkers. Doesn’t exactly help those with legitimate concerns when you’ve got a bunch of people banging on about “carbon is good we actually need more of it” claiming to represent you
British ain’t happy unless they are dodging fly tipped waste and dog shit whilst driving their oversized motors 5 minutes to the local Tesco.
This country is a dump.
What’s worrying is that these schemes have been hijacked by conspiracy nuts. Notice the ‘There is no climate crises’ banner in the article image
Really worrying how the far right qanon type conspiracy lunatics seem to have adopted this as their latest “cause” since the shite about “climate lockdown” started spreading. Rage inducing how much damage conspiracy theories are doing.
It’s not a traffic scheme per se. Its a WEF plan to stop movements of people.
I have friends who live there. The problem is that they are effectively barring certain major internal roads (they may not be physically blocked but fining people who travel on them is the same thing) without having done anything to increase capacity on the alternative routes or provide decent non-car alternatives. Someone who lives in one section of Oxford and works in another (inc in hospitals, schools etc) could now need to travel out to the ring road, round and back in again. Given how bad the ring road can be at rush hour already, that’s adding a lot of time to their journey. Its going to be particularly problematic for those with kids who need school/nursery drop offs too. The whole thing just seems terribly managed.
We are extorted by the government to own and drive our cars. We should be bloody well allowed to use the roads that we also paid and pay for. It’s a piss take what they’re trying to do.
Nice to see what was a ‘conspiracy’ a year ago is being shown as a real threat and being challenged by residents.
Everyone against reducing car usage needs to get their head in the game and keep up with the times.
How about instead of ruining the entire transport network with stupid laws on when and where you can drive, Oxford just invests in actually decent public transport and pedestrianisation? You can fit an entire medium sized suburban traffic jam’s worth of cars into a handful of buses or trams, plus public transit generates a hell of a lot of jobs, especially trams with all the conductors, electricians, mechanics and rail engineers!
But no, because “trams are too ugly for a beautiful southern university city like Oxford”, as if the horrible traffic situation isn’t infinitely more of an eyesore than a few overhead trolleybus wires or tram lines.
Just wait until the cameras are re-purposed or replaced with facial recognition units, the exemptions and the buses are all cancelled, and the effective block-by-fine is extended to everyone, even pedestrian and cyclist, using facial recognition. That is the real issue with 5G – it can handle the data rate needed to do that. It is already happening in China with so-called ‘jaywalkers’. It will extend to all pavements, and all pedestrians.
You obviously don’t understand politicians if you think that this will stop at being levied against cars. Ask yourself how many pen strokes, once they have a good enough internet connection to/from the camera, it would take to turn them on you and send you fines in the post based on your face?
Oh, and it was the last L**our government who tried to introduce ID cards, doubt it not that when(ever) they get back in, they will try again and facial recognition technology is good enough that your face is your registration plate and you will be getting fines just for walking through these filters. Oh and the council will find a way to force you onto the system unless you start pushing back now.
How is reducing available road space supposed to improve air quality? People in Britain keep their heating and aircon running (it’s a need, given the cold in winter and heat island effects in summer) so you can’t really turn engines off in the way you think you can. It would also be an irony if an electric car was carrying its backup generator on a trailer and someone ^accidentally^ left the registration plate off the trailer and the view of the main plate got blocked as well.