Proximus is in this meme and it hate it. Seriously, it would be time to do something about it. I’m French and it’s mind boggling to see that taking a french telephone subscription is far far cheaper than taking any Belgium one. Free is just the goat.
To be fair, he *did* update his personal webpage since it was still suck in 2004.
Proximus has monopol over the belgian market and this shouldn’t be happening.
I mean at this point they are borderline scamming Belgium with really high prices and offering basic stuff. And their internet… Well, lets just read the reviews.
Why would he do anything about the government’s duopoly position?
If I read correctly he found money to start the works again on the ‘justitiepaleis’. That’s an achievement that none of his predecessors since a good 20 years were able to achieve…
Is dat dan exact dezelfde kwaliteit/snelheid/dekking? Of artificiëel gecapped op een of andere manier? Tevreden van?
Ik zit momenteel bij Proximus, maar er gaat niet veel veranderen in de markt als we allemaal op zijn Belgisch blijven plakken bij waar we over klagen, en enkel maar klagen…
Ban porn?! HERESY!!!
I like Orange :). Good price quality and nothing to complain about.
Everyone is saying Proximus i thought Telenet was the big player here? Seeing as they’re acualy on the Wiki Page as An example of a monopoly along with companies like Microsoft Belgacom and the VOC
My dad instals fiber but Hates te shit out of Proximus.i will never join those fuckers
One fact is that in Flanders, Telenet is the one having the most customers and they are deciding of the prices there (they also have the highest prices last time i looked). Telenet main shareholder is an US pension fund if i remember correctly. In Wallonia, most places just don’t have any competition : it is either proximus or nothing, except in the things like Liege area and some municipalities here and there where VOO is active. And the government being a large shareholder of Proximus, they actually don’t want to drop price as they gain a lot of money from the profit.
Also, we are a small market, so the profit scheme vs France isn’t the same. Orange is a multinational that can gather profit in multiple countries (Spain, Belgium, …) while fighting low price in France. Proximus or Telenet are just in Belgium. All these companies are hold by shareholders (pension funds, government, …) that want profit so prices are high. Also in practice, deploying fixed network cost a lot of money in our country due to many factors (especially labour price), so even without the profit aspect, it wouldn’t drop the price that low in practice. Competition is fine, but politician that would understand how infrastructure works would be better. Maybe one future solution would be to separate the infrastructure and services in two companies (like for Electricity or even how Orange and Proximus are together for mobile now), so we could just have a well build and efficient network while having only the service (provider) aspect in other companies that would just use this network.
in many EU countries (NL), non food retail is already 20 to 50% online electronics 50%, fashion 20%. food is still 5% online. in US food is about 20 %. major challenge in Belgium is the small market,
the lack of delivery infrastructure and market awareness for online opportunities in general. Covid was a push forward but the oligopoly between proximus / telenet / orange is still a problem.
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Proximus is in this meme and it hate it. Seriously, it would be time to do something about it. I’m French and it’s mind boggling to see that taking a french telephone subscription is far far cheaper than taking any Belgium one. Free is just the goat.
To be fair, he *did* update his personal webpage since it was still suck in 2004.
Proximus has monopol over the belgian market and this shouldn’t be happening.
I mean at this point they are borderline scamming Belgium with really high prices and offering basic stuff. And their internet… Well, lets just read the reviews.
Why would he do anything about the government’s duopoly position?
If I read correctly he found money to start the works again on the ‘justitiepaleis’. That’s an achievement that none of his predecessors since a good 20 years were able to achieve…
Heeft er iemand ervaring met [Youfone](https://www.youfone.be/nl/gsm-abonnement)? Is een Nederlandse provider die hier op het netwerk van Proximus actief is.
Is dat dan exact dezelfde kwaliteit/snelheid/dekking? Of artificiëel gecapped op een of andere manier? Tevreden van?
Ik zit momenteel bij Proximus, maar er gaat niet veel veranderen in de markt als we allemaal op zijn Belgisch blijven plakken bij waar we over klagen, en enkel maar klagen…
Ban porn?! HERESY!!!
I like Orange :). Good price quality and nothing to complain about.
Everyone is saying Proximus i thought Telenet was the big player here? Seeing as they’re acualy on the Wiki Page as An example of a monopoly along with companies like Microsoft Belgacom and the VOC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_o8vYUU-jo
What is the “promote Crypto” bullshit about?
My dad instals fiber but Hates te shit out of Proximus.i will never join those fuckers
One fact is that in Flanders, Telenet is the one having the most customers and they are deciding of the prices there (they also have the highest prices last time i looked). Telenet main shareholder is an US pension fund if i remember correctly. In Wallonia, most places just don’t have any competition : it is either proximus or nothing, except in the things like Liege area and some municipalities here and there where VOO is active. And the government being a large shareholder of Proximus, they actually don’t want to drop price as they gain a lot of money from the profit.
Also, we are a small market, so the profit scheme vs France isn’t the same. Orange is a multinational that can gather profit in multiple countries (Spain, Belgium, …) while fighting low price in France. Proximus or Telenet are just in Belgium. All these companies are hold by shareholders (pension funds, government, …) that want profit so prices are high. Also in practice, deploying fixed network cost a lot of money in our country due to many factors (especially labour price), so even without the profit aspect, it wouldn’t drop the price that low in practice. Competition is fine, but politician that would understand how infrastructure works would be better. Maybe one future solution would be to separate the infrastructure and services in two companies (like for Electricity or even how Orange and Proximus are together for mobile now), so we could just have a well build and efficient network while having only the service (provider) aspect in other companies that would just use this network.
in many EU countries (NL), non food retail is already 20 to 50% online electronics 50%, fashion 20%. food is still 5% online. in US food is about 20 %. major challenge in Belgium is the small market,
the lack of delivery infrastructure and market awareness for online opportunities in general. Covid was a push forward but the oligopoly between proximus / telenet / orange is still a problem.