Finding a balance during a pandemic is never straightforward and hindsight is always great. At least we had one of the lowest death rates, so restrictions had a good impact in aggregate, even if some wouldn’t have been the best choice.
A commission of inquiry into our Covid response was promised in (I think) 2021 but there’s no sign of it so far. I think it’s an important step in determining what we got right and what we got wrong, so we’ll be prepared for the next pandemic.
What’s his motive for doing this?
a member of my family worked in a nursing home during the first Christmas of COVID, he actually moved in for 12 to 13 days over the Christmas period so he could get a block of time off for the new year and see our elderly father and mother as well as his children, he slept in a store room that had a bed put into it. He watched COVID rip through the residents of that nursing home and it was heartbreaking to see people die alone what was worse was during his time off and once the restrictions lifted were people coming to these vulnerable long stay residential homes symptomatic sometimes out of disregard for others health other times because a family member was passing and out of sheer desperation to see the person they loved before they passed which we can all empathise with. All it takes is one person and several people could die. There was no solution to the problems that COVID left us with and looking back now saying this and that was inhumane is looking back with 20/20 vision which was impossible to do at the time.
It’s great that he can see things so clearly after they have already happened. It wasn’t inhumane. Nursing homes were being fadonked by covid.
Fuck off. I feel this is a sensationalist headline that actually doesn’t indicate what he really says.
The people who abandoned our actual pandemic protocols should be held to account..
Hindsight is a great thing. Of course things could have been done better, but it was unknown times.
Speaking as a nurse who has to enforce these restrictions, being able to call these restrictions inhumane is a luxury for the living. Iv seen covid go like wildfire through wards. I wouldn’t wish it on anyway. Hard choices had to be made to save lives. Op you are a bitch.
“The Experts” here are gonna fucking love this article.
School was still happening via zoom. Have some consideration for teachers, snas etc who, even more so than other settings outside of medicine, have close contact with students.
I’m in an SEN setting currently. We were the first to go back.. Which was insane as mainstream classes can distance more and don’t need physical supports. We could not distance from some of these kids due to physical need and their own sensory needs. We need to touch to help them learn in some cases and they touch us without warning at times. Many would have been seriously ill if they stayed open, especially in SEN classes/ settings. I guarantee you OP would have been one of the one sitting at home. You can’t talk until you’ve been in these settings. I very often was down an sna as we couldn’t get staff cover with the illness, making my job so difficult. We were also in while many worked from home and were deemed unsafe to return.. Amazing that!!
To be fair, a lot of the survivors think we went too far with restrictions.
So was having the schools open with the windows open. Ran my son into the ground with evey dose going including covid. They should have had hepa filters or heat recovery ventilation
Big whoop. There will be various opinions on any team like NPHET and there should be in order to hammer out the best strategy for any given issue. This only shows that NPHET wasn’t the “dystopian blah blah yakety shmakety”.
How quickly some people in this thread forget the mass graves in New York and Bergamo.
I have no respect for someone who sells out his colleagues to act like he had the answers now that we all have the hindsight.
No one knew how bad things were going to get. If our ICUs would be full, If elderly patients wouldn’t get ventilated.
I’m quite pleased at the lack of Captain Hindsights which have appeared, it’s very easy to be clever after the fact. I remember the desperate Aer Lingus flights to China in the first few weeks, I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of that stuff wasn’t used and it doesn’t matter because it was still the right thing to do.
As a country we pulled together, did what we thought best given the facts we knew at the time, and I’m proud of us – and feel nothing but contempt BTW for the small number of “what about meeeee” whingers who emerged during Covid.
A review of our response would be good to be better prepared for the next time this happens, but a commission of enquiry sounds a bit too much like an attempt to find blame for something.
Ahh the brilliance of hindsight, why didn’t we know this before we knew this …
Those “conspiracy theorists” get another lucky win.
Youd swear the restrictions were some sadists wet dream. We had a global pandemic and too few resources to medically support our vulnerable, so we protected them in other ways.
5km restrictions is up there. Going to an open air beach, think again.
Just need to get working on that time machine now
It was extreme but in the absence of much information people did the best to protect the most vulnerable, I have no issues
Hindsight is 20/20
***Vaccine – A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious or malignant disease***
I got 3 vaccines, caught Covid twice and apparently I’m still not immune.
There is no issue with the validity of implementing a national response around a vaccine roll out. The issue is that we never had a vaccine around which to base our roll out but we ploughed ahead as if we did.
Basically it was all built on a completely unstable foundation and once we realised that, we had invested too much to back track so we had to stick with the programme.
Not to mention that time we threatened anyone trying to leave the country with four digit fines or even fucking PRISON time, while simultaneously allowing people from _most_ other countries to enter with a 14 day self quarantine at most.
We didn’t get everything 100 % correct immediately… therefore the whole thing was a giant pharma, new-world population replacement genocide.
School closures inhumane? best day of the year hearing they were closing and the pe hall roof collapsed that day
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Finding a balance during a pandemic is never straightforward and hindsight is always great. At least we had one of the lowest death rates, so restrictions had a good impact in aggregate, even if some wouldn’t have been the best choice.
A commission of inquiry into our Covid response was promised in (I think) 2021 but there’s no sign of it so far. I think it’s an important step in determining what we got right and what we got wrong, so we’ll be prepared for the next pandemic.
What’s his motive for doing this?
a member of my family worked in a nursing home during the first Christmas of COVID, he actually moved in for 12 to 13 days over the Christmas period so he could get a block of time off for the new year and see our elderly father and mother as well as his children, he slept in a store room that had a bed put into it. He watched COVID rip through the residents of that nursing home and it was heartbreaking to see people die alone what was worse was during his time off and once the restrictions lifted were people coming to these vulnerable long stay residential homes symptomatic sometimes out of disregard for others health other times because a family member was passing and out of sheer desperation to see the person they loved before they passed which we can all empathise with. All it takes is one person and several people could die. There was no solution to the problems that COVID left us with and looking back now saying this and that was inhumane is looking back with 20/20 vision which was impossible to do at the time.
It’s great that he can see things so clearly after they have already happened. It wasn’t inhumane. Nursing homes were being fadonked by covid.
Fuck off. I feel this is a sensationalist headline that actually doesn’t indicate what he really says.
The people who abandoned our actual pandemic protocols should be held to account..
Hindsight is a great thing. Of course things could have been done better, but it was unknown times.
Speaking as a nurse who has to enforce these restrictions, being able to call these restrictions inhumane is a luxury for the living. Iv seen covid go like wildfire through wards. I wouldn’t wish it on anyway. Hard choices had to be made to save lives. Op you are a bitch.
“The Experts” here are gonna fucking love this article.
School was still happening via zoom. Have some consideration for teachers, snas etc who, even more so than other settings outside of medicine, have close contact with students.
I’m in an SEN setting currently. We were the first to go back.. Which was insane as mainstream classes can distance more and don’t need physical supports. We could not distance from some of these kids due to physical need and their own sensory needs. We need to touch to help them learn in some cases and they touch us without warning at times. Many would have been seriously ill if they stayed open, especially in SEN classes/ settings. I guarantee you OP would have been one of the one sitting at home. You can’t talk until you’ve been in these settings. I very often was down an sna as we couldn’t get staff cover with the illness, making my job so difficult. We were also in while many worked from home and were deemed unsafe to return.. Amazing that!!
To be fair, a lot of the survivors think we went too far with restrictions.
So was having the schools open with the windows open. Ran my son into the ground with evey dose going including covid. They should have had hepa filters or heat recovery ventilation
Big whoop. There will be various opinions on any team like NPHET and there should be in order to hammer out the best strategy for any given issue. This only shows that NPHET wasn’t the “dystopian blah blah yakety shmakety”.
How quickly some people in this thread forget the mass graves in New York and Bergamo.
I have no respect for someone who sells out his colleagues to act like he had the answers now that we all have the hindsight.
No one knew how bad things were going to get. If our ICUs would be full, If elderly patients wouldn’t get ventilated.
I’m quite pleased at the lack of Captain Hindsights which have appeared, it’s very easy to be clever after the fact. I remember the desperate Aer Lingus flights to China in the first few weeks, I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of that stuff wasn’t used and it doesn’t matter because it was still the right thing to do.
As a country we pulled together, did what we thought best given the facts we knew at the time, and I’m proud of us – and feel nothing but contempt BTW for the small number of “what about meeeee” whingers who emerged during Covid.
A review of our response would be good to be better prepared for the next time this happens, but a commission of enquiry sounds a bit too much like an attempt to find blame for something.
Ahh the brilliance of hindsight, why didn’t we know this before we knew this …
Those “conspiracy theorists” get another lucky win.
Youd swear the restrictions were some sadists wet dream. We had a global pandemic and too few resources to medically support our vulnerable, so we protected them in other ways.
5km restrictions is up there. Going to an open air beach, think again.
Just need to get working on that time machine now
It was extreme but in the absence of much information people did the best to protect the most vulnerable, I have no issues
Hindsight is 20/20
***Vaccine – A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious or malignant disease***
I got 3 vaccines, caught Covid twice and apparently I’m still not immune.
There is no issue with the validity of implementing a national response around a vaccine roll out. The issue is that we never had a vaccine around which to base our roll out but we ploughed ahead as if we did.
Basically it was all built on a completely unstable foundation and once we realised that, we had invested too much to back track so we had to stick with the programme.
Not to mention that time we threatened anyone trying to leave the country with four digit fines or even fucking PRISON time, while simultaneously allowing people from _most_ other countries to enter with a 14 day self quarantine at most.
We didn’t get everything 100 % correct immediately… therefore the whole thing was a giant pharma, new-world population replacement genocide.
School closures inhumane? best day of the year hearing they were closing and the pe hall roof collapsed that day