If this is simplified the real version must be some real Byzantine shit. At least they’re in the right place for that.
Some of these lines seem like memes (like an alliance being dissolved via WhatsApp) but it’s absolutely real.
I don’t know when reality decided to parody itself , but welcome to Turkey.
So Kilicdaroglu’s ego seems to be the biggest obstacle. Why is he so powerful that noboody can remove him?
Plz simplify again
This chart made my head spin but I think I got the gist of it. Kilicdaroglu is the problem with a big ego and sounds like he may as well turn out to be another Erdogan if elected.
I love how all these leave out the HDP all the time. HDP has been the 4th largest party in the last four elections. Garnering more votes than most others mentioned in this graph. They could be a key to resolving this quamire. So why then the party with 4th largest voting base gets left out all the time?
What you need to understand is, Erdogan is really bad. But the opposition is not brilliant democrats either. They won’t touch an oppressed minority with a ten foot stick because it may cost them nationalist votes. The reason neither AKP, nor CHP can deal with HDP is both of them are in weird alliances with ultranationalists.
AKP had a deal going with MHP (in europe you recognize these goons as grey wolves), but a deal with AKP did not sit well with all of MHP. So they split and formed another nationalist party with some others on the right, the IYI party. CHP lacking a right wing partner jumped on these “new” nationalists. The point where IYI and MHP have common ground is that Kurds should not be in parliament.
So there you have it. The mainstream narratives all leave out HDP. If you are looking for byzantine drama, the party’s former leader [Demirtas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selahattin_Demirta%C5%9F) has been jailed by Erdogan since 2016 on trumped up charges. He was in pre-trial until 2018 on up to 100 charges. On 2018 the best they could manage was that he gave a speech which meant he would be jailed for 4 years and 8 months. ECHR ruled that his imprisonment was just an attempt to silence opposition.
Turkish politics is a real parody lol
Welcome to hell
So much complexity only to describe that nothing will eventually change with turkish foreign policy, so nothing to see here
The design is very human
Least complicated crisis in Turkey be like:
Here is the simpler version:
Everyone votes for who they want in the first round, Erdoğan comes first but does not pass 50%, so Erdoğan and X carry to the next round. X will most likely be Kılıçdaroğlu or İnce.
Hard to say who will win from there, but I have hope; and a boat ready to be illegaly rowed into Bulgarian shores just in case.
Mind you this is only simplified.
That Doğu Perinçek detail tho
Yeah, this doesn’t even include the Kurds and the socialists, they’re definitely a part of the process. They back Kılıçdaroğlu while rejecting Yavaş.
Very sad to hear this from Turkish officials
does all of this even matter since it’s a dictatorship?
We have had a version of this in Sweden a few years back. The political parties made an agreement across the right-left wing sides and called it DÖ which is the Swedish word for DIE.
I think the arrangement lasted a year or two until it collapsed after various forms of backstabbings. I think there was a sausage involved? Or maybe that was the election cycle prop now that I think about it…
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If this is simplified the real version must be some real Byzantine shit. At least they’re in the right place for that.
Some of these lines seem like memes (like an alliance being dissolved via WhatsApp) but it’s absolutely real.
I don’t know when reality decided to parody itself , but welcome to Turkey.
So Kilicdaroglu’s ego seems to be the biggest obstacle. Why is he so powerful that noboody can remove him?
Plz simplify again
This chart made my head spin but I think I got the gist of it. Kilicdaroglu is the problem with a big ego and sounds like he may as well turn out to be another Erdogan if elected.
I love how all these leave out the HDP all the time. HDP has been the 4th largest party in the last four elections. Garnering more votes than most others mentioned in this graph. They could be a key to resolving this quamire. So why then the party with 4th largest voting base gets left out all the time?
What you need to understand is, Erdogan is really bad. But the opposition is not brilliant democrats either. They won’t touch an oppressed minority with a ten foot stick because it may cost them nationalist votes. The reason neither AKP, nor CHP can deal with HDP is both of them are in weird alliances with ultranationalists.
AKP had a deal going with MHP (in europe you recognize these goons as grey wolves), but a deal with AKP did not sit well with all of MHP. So they split and formed another nationalist party with some others on the right, the IYI party. CHP lacking a right wing partner jumped on these “new” nationalists. The point where IYI and MHP have common ground is that Kurds should not be in parliament.
So there you have it. The mainstream narratives all leave out HDP. If you are looking for byzantine drama, the party’s former leader [Demirtas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selahattin_Demirta%C5%9F) has been jailed by Erdogan since 2016 on trumped up charges. He was in pre-trial until 2018 on up to 100 charges. On 2018 the best they could manage was that he gave a speech which meant he would be jailed for 4 years and 8 months. ECHR ruled that his imprisonment was just an attempt to silence opposition.
Turkish politics is a real parody lol
Welcome to hell
So much complexity only to describe that nothing will eventually change with turkish foreign policy, so nothing to see here
The design is very human
Least complicated crisis in Turkey be like:
Here is the simpler version:
Everyone votes for who they want in the first round, Erdoğan comes first but does not pass 50%, so Erdoğan and X carry to the next round. X will most likely be Kılıçdaroğlu or İnce.
Hard to say who will win from there, but I have hope; and a boat ready to be illegaly rowed into Bulgarian shores just in case.
Mind you this is only simplified.
That Doğu Perinçek detail tho
Yeah, this doesn’t even include the Kurds and the socialists, they’re definitely a part of the process. They back Kılıçdaroğlu while rejecting Yavaş.
Very sad to hear this from Turkish officials
does all of this even matter since it’s a dictatorship?
We have had a version of this in Sweden a few years back. The political parties made an agreement across the right-left wing sides and called it DÖ which is the Swedish word for DIE.
I think the arrangement lasted a year or two until it collapsed after various forms of backstabbings. I think there was a sausage involved? Or maybe that was the election cycle prop now that I think about it…
Politics can be such a s***show at times.