It’s what happens when you have a government in charge that hates the country.
And this is how you end up with a two tier system. One for those who can afford to get timely care and one for the rest of us who can suffer.
Honestly I actively avoid using the NHS these days. If you’re under 50 you might as well just wait until whatever is wrong hospitalises you, it’s the only way you’ll get seen to.
If they fined people for time wasting with ridiculous GP or Pharmacy treatable ailments that are going to A & E or for being Drunk and Disorderly like other countries they would get less people abusing the system and make money at the same time!
Thats a huge problem with the system they need to toughen up and tighten up on the system yes staff are under paid and over worked but a lot of cases and unnecessary admissions could be avoided if they screened better/thoroughly
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Why don’t Tories just fund the NHS at the same percentage of GDP that Labour did? …it’s almost as if they are purposefully trying to destroying it.
I pay privately for mental health care because the NHS refuse to treat me any further following a course of cbt that didn’t help
>He said he was “worried about the perception” that some people felt the NHS would still not be free at the point of use in 10 years’ time, and added that he would “protect robustly the founding principles of the NHS”.
Should that not be “not still be free” rather than “still not be free”? The latter implies that it currently isn’t free.
She should re-enter the country via a dinghy from france. They have their own doctors and dentists.
My job comes with private healthcare. I wouldn’t accept a job now without it. The NHS is hopefully good if you have an accident, but for everything else and especially management of chronic/longterm health conditions, it’s terrible.
Currently trying to scrape together some cash to help my dad with his hernia. Diagnosed in November, referred to hospital, still waiting for a consultation which was supposed to happen in early January – can’t see it happening any time soon to be honest.
This is just pure propaganda.
We don’t need a private service. We need a public service for all that is funded well. And is not scapegoated when the government has constantly failed it.
Need to stop shedding light on these articles, we don’t want to normalise this
Yup. I’m a GP – several times a day I refer people and have to explain the private options as well. We get no benefit from a private referral, but the NHS is badly broken and even urgent referrals can take a long time, let alone routines.
If rich people want to not use NHS resources but still pay for it, they’re welcome to as far as I’m concerned.
We are going through the same thing, my sister is having stomach bloating so much that it is bulging out, she got one scan and found ovarian cyst but now no further treatment from NHS, they are not doing any further investigation to know that it is cancerous or not. She is suffering, everyday have serious stomach ache and just keep calling NHS. Now we have to call some friends and do all investigative things from our own pocket. NHS just do one thing very well that is harrassing and giving mental stress to already sick people.
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I finally got my ADHD referral a few days ago. They quoted waiting time to be seen from this point is 30 months. In that time I’m probably just going to try to save to try and get assessed privately as it’s not the only suspected disorder I have. This will be incredibly difficult however as I barely get any money to live on and the cost of everything has skyrocketed. Considering my mental and physical health prevent me from working, and I’m only 25, you’d think the government would want to get me healthy, off benefits and into work. I guess not.
The NHS has been held together by its staff for years now. Those staff are broken because of how badly the pandemic response was mismanaged. Years of below-inflation pay rises and poor working conditions are now longer worth it, staff are leaving, and the system is crumbling as a result. Voters need to realise that the NHS is in the state it is in because of deliberate mismanagement and it will remain that way until the Tories are out of power for a significant period of time.
Wish I had the money to go private.
The NHS a fucking joke and has been for me for a good 20 years.
Long term knee injuries (ACL)…yet having to jump through hoops to even see someone, been waiting 6 weeks (after many years) to get an appointment.
Also a shoulder/ back muscle problem where the NHS has just said basically, ‘well, we cannot help but it’s £50 a session with the physio for you’.
I have been struggling with diabetes for a while now. It takes very long to get any appointments and longer for follow ups. The call at 8:30 for an appointment or try again the next day is not ideal. Very difficult to find alternative places to seek treatment.
I was on a 2 year wait list for a proper diagnosis and titration plan on the NHS so after 6 months I decided to go private, still had to wait 6 weeks but it was faster…. I had to end the titration process as soon as possible as the monthly cost was on average £450, the first month cost me 850… in total I’ve put about 4.2k on a credit card to finally get meds I should have gotten decades ago. Infact the private surgery still are invoicing me for prescriptions even though the private doctor wrote and sent them off for me… they want an extra 500 for a couple of them!!! It’s madness, I’ve not paid the last bit, forwarding a prescription should not cost 100 a time.
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It’s what happens when you have a government in charge that hates the country.
And this is how you end up with a two tier system. One for those who can afford to get timely care and one for the rest of us who can suffer.
Honestly I actively avoid using the NHS these days. If you’re under 50 you might as well just wait until whatever is wrong hospitalises you, it’s the only way you’ll get seen to.
If they fined people for time wasting with ridiculous GP or Pharmacy treatable ailments that are going to A & E or for being Drunk and Disorderly like other countries they would get less people abusing the system and make money at the same time!
Thats a huge problem with the system they need to toughen up and tighten up on the system yes staff are under paid and over worked but a lot of cases and unnecessary admissions could be avoided if they screened better/thoroughly
[deleted]
Why don’t Tories just fund the NHS at the same percentage of GDP that Labour did? …it’s almost as if they are purposefully trying to destroying it.
I pay privately for mental health care because the NHS refuse to treat me any further following a course of cbt that didn’t help
>He said he was “worried about the perception” that some people felt the NHS would still not be free at the point of use in 10 years’ time, and added that he would “protect robustly the founding principles of the NHS”.
Should that not be “not still be free” rather than “still not be free”? The latter implies that it currently isn’t free.
She should re-enter the country via a dinghy from france. They have their own doctors and dentists.
My job comes with private healthcare. I wouldn’t accept a job now without it. The NHS is hopefully good if you have an accident, but for everything else and especially management of chronic/longterm health conditions, it’s terrible.
Currently trying to scrape together some cash to help my dad with his hernia. Diagnosed in November, referred to hospital, still waiting for a consultation which was supposed to happen in early January – can’t see it happening any time soon to be honest.
This is just pure propaganda.
We don’t need a private service. We need a public service for all that is funded well. And is not scapegoated when the government has constantly failed it.
Need to stop shedding light on these articles, we don’t want to normalise this
Yup. I’m a GP – several times a day I refer people and have to explain the private options as well. We get no benefit from a private referral, but the NHS is badly broken and even urgent referrals can take a long time, let alone routines.
If rich people want to not use NHS resources but still pay for it, they’re welcome to as far as I’m concerned.
We are going through the same thing, my sister is having stomach bloating so much that it is bulging out, she got one scan and found ovarian cyst but now no further treatment from NHS, they are not doing any further investigation to know that it is cancerous or not. She is suffering, everyday have serious stomach ache and just keep calling NHS. Now we have to call some friends and do all investigative things from our own pocket. NHS just do one thing very well that is harrassing and giving mental stress to already sick people.
[deleted]
I finally got my ADHD referral a few days ago. They quoted waiting time to be seen from this point is 30 months. In that time I’m probably just going to try to save to try and get assessed privately as it’s not the only suspected disorder I have. This will be incredibly difficult however as I barely get any money to live on and the cost of everything has skyrocketed. Considering my mental and physical health prevent me from working, and I’m only 25, you’d think the government would want to get me healthy, off benefits and into work. I guess not.
The NHS has been held together by its staff for years now. Those staff are broken because of how badly the pandemic response was mismanaged. Years of below-inflation pay rises and poor working conditions are now longer worth it, staff are leaving, and the system is crumbling as a result. Voters need to realise that the NHS is in the state it is in because of deliberate mismanagement and it will remain that way until the Tories are out of power for a significant period of time.
Wish I had the money to go private.
The NHS a fucking joke and has been for me for a good 20 years.
Long term knee injuries (ACL)…yet having to jump through hoops to even see someone, been waiting 6 weeks (after many years) to get an appointment.
Also a shoulder/ back muscle problem where the NHS has just said basically, ‘well, we cannot help but it’s £50 a session with the physio for you’.
I have been struggling with diabetes for a while now. It takes very long to get any appointments and longer for follow ups. The call at 8:30 for an appointment or try again the next day is not ideal. Very difficult to find alternative places to seek treatment.
I was on a 2 year wait list for a proper diagnosis and titration plan on the NHS so after 6 months I decided to go private, still had to wait 6 weeks but it was faster…. I had to end the titration process as soon as possible as the monthly cost was on average £450, the first month cost me 850… in total I’ve put about 4.2k on a credit card to finally get meds I should have gotten decades ago. Infact the private surgery still are invoicing me for prescriptions even though the private doctor wrote and sent them off for me… they want an extra 500 for a couple of them!!! It’s madness, I’ve not paid the last bit, forwarding a prescription should not cost 100 a time.