I knew this 15 years ago….. wierd that ppl only now realize
Jeszcze jak.
So all this is based on some ambiguous documents written by communists, which hated him and words of a single “anonymous” person that might very not exist, because how the fuck it took them 50 years to remember that conversation they had with him in 70s? Just sounds very dodgy, but guess it’s main purpose to generate clicks.
Honestly and sadly this is not news, old information. I’d have been surprised if this was a report by TVP tho
I wouldn’t believe TVN
Babcias everywhere are displeased
jp2gmd
I wonder if it is possible for the Church to un-canonise their saints? I mean, I believe JPII shouldn’t be considered a saint, same as mother Teresa.
A few things to note:
1. One of the people quoted has a new book coming out this week on the topic of child sexual abuse in the Church, which is suspiciously good timing
2. The Communist Secret Police was all about calling priests pedos in an effort to discredit them. Their testimony should not be trusted
3. The word-of-mouth testimony in cases like this should not be immediately believed. Remember, someone claimed Cardinal Pell raped two children in the sacristy with the door open immediately after Mass in the span of two minutes while fully vested without anyone seeing or hearing anything. People are not always honest when it comes to these situations, especially when they have a bone to pick with the Church.
So let’s wait until actual evidence is produced before passing judgment.
JP 2 is known as holy patron of all pedophiles
How has tvp been reporting on this?
JP2GMD
a highly ranked member of the church was trying to hide child abuse, it would be more surprising if he didn’t
papeiz nigdy by czeugos takeigo nei zrobil
The whole Catholic church is just a big pedo cult , and business racket.
Who own TVN? Discovery+? That should tell you
That shouldn’t even be shocking to anybody who is somewhat educated. They’re making the guy to be the next Jesus here in Poland, but fail to understand he was the head of one of the largest “corporations” out there. His only goal was to for his business to be profitable and stay in power. To hell with the children, they could care less. It’s all about money. Luckily Poland is changing and people are stepping away from the catholic church, but it’s gonna take a long time to completely cut the population away from that cess pool. Kids here are being indoctrinated starting at a very young age, just by going to public schools.
It triggers me to see that a great number of well educated people who have seen the world and other cultures, still fall for the mythical stories being served to them every Sunday.
Pedophile
Yeah he’s not the only one. The church/vatican as a whole are guilty. They do this and worse and get away with it
Sinead O’Connor said it best 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
> He cites documents from the former Communist-eraSB secret police and rare church documents to which he managed to get access.
Very reliable, I’m sure. Might as well go consult Nazi documents about Jews and get an objective opinion from that.
Nothing new, JP2 was warshipped like a god in Poland and if you would say such things 10 years ago you would be linched on a street by an angry mob like in some Avganistan or Saudi Arabia, now an image of our pope is cracked and shit starts to flow out.
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I hope the book will be made available in English
One journalist on propaganda channel
Okrutnik
I knew this 15 years ago….. wierd that ppl only now realize
Jeszcze jak.
So all this is based on some ambiguous documents written by communists, which hated him and words of a single “anonymous” person that might very not exist, because how the fuck it took them 50 years to remember that conversation they had with him in 70s? Just sounds very dodgy, but guess it’s main purpose to generate clicks.
Honestly and sadly this is not news, old information. I’d have been surprised if this was a report by TVP tho
I wouldn’t believe TVN
Babcias everywhere are displeased
jp2gmd
I wonder if it is possible for the Church to un-canonise their saints? I mean, I believe JPII shouldn’t be considered a saint, same as mother Teresa.
A few things to note:
1. One of the people quoted has a new book coming out this week on the topic of child sexual abuse in the Church, which is suspiciously good timing
2. The Communist Secret Police was all about calling priests pedos in an effort to discredit them. Their testimony should not be trusted
3. The word-of-mouth testimony in cases like this should not be immediately believed. Remember, someone claimed Cardinal Pell raped two children in the sacristy with the door open immediately after Mass in the span of two minutes while fully vested without anyone seeing or hearing anything. People are not always honest when it comes to these situations, especially when they have a bone to pick with the Church.
So let’s wait until actual evidence is produced before passing judgment.
JP 2 is known as holy patron of all pedophiles
How has tvp been reporting on this?
JP2GMD
a highly ranked member of the church was trying to hide child abuse, it would be more surprising if he didn’t
papeiz nigdy by czeugos takeigo nei zrobil
The whole Catholic church is just a big pedo cult , and business racket.
Who own TVN? Discovery+? That should tell you
That shouldn’t even be shocking to anybody who is somewhat educated. They’re making the guy to be the next Jesus here in Poland, but fail to understand he was the head of one of the largest “corporations” out there. His only goal was to for his business to be profitable and stay in power. To hell with the children, they could care less. It’s all about money. Luckily Poland is changing and people are stepping away from the catholic church, but it’s gonna take a long time to completely cut the population away from that cess pool. Kids here are being indoctrinated starting at a very young age, just by going to public schools.
It triggers me to see that a great number of well educated people who have seen the world and other cultures, still fall for the mythical stories being served to them every Sunday.
Pedophile
Yeah he’s not the only one. The church/vatican as a whole are guilty. They do this and worse and get away with it
Sinead O’Connor said it best 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
> He cites documents from the former Communist-eraSB secret police and rare church documents to which he managed to get access.
Very reliable, I’m sure. Might as well go consult Nazi documents about Jews and get an objective opinion from that.
Nothing new, JP2 was warshipped like a god in Poland and if you would say such things 10 years ago you would be linched on a street by an angry mob like in some Avganistan or Saudi Arabia, now an image of our pope is cracked and shit starts to flow out.
Polish Catholics won’t be happy.
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