Was inevitable this would happen. The laws that are in place have been ignored for years so it was only a matter of time before Revenue started to clamp down on it.
People are confused about what’s going on here.
The OP hasn’t been using their deliveroo account to actually do deliveroo work. They’ve been renting their account out. Someone else pays then a fee to use their deliveroo account for a period (presumably directing the money into their own account). OP makes money and does no work.
Why would someone rent a deliveroo account? Because they have no immigration status, or one that limits their ability to work. Often it’s those on student visas using it to work more than their limited hours without getting caught.
Problem for OP is that if revenue have data from deliveroo that data will say that OP has earned some hundreds or thousands of euros. In reality those renting the account have made that money, and paid only a small percentage to OP.
OP is fucked. He’s either liable for the tax, or he’s trying to explain that he’s not liable for the tax because, actually, he was facilitating immigration fraud.
How fucking stupid are you to rent out your ppsn number?
This explains why it said that my Deliveroo driver will be a girl in a red BMW but turns out it was a bloke on a Honda scooter.
Oh is that why “Leticia ” is down to deliver but it’s 100% not Leticia and more like Bruno who appears. Everytime.
There are other ways of earning money legally
Yeah don’t wanna mess with revenue. By far the most (or only) competent apparatus of the state.
What sort of moron was doing this?
Deliveroo riders are able to nominate other people to deliver for them – that isn’t against the rules. They are effectively nominating someone else to work on their behalf.
Where it gets murky is that Deliveroo put the responsibility on the main agreement holder (ie the account holder) to make sure the people delivering on their behalf have the legal right to work, deliver per the rules etc and crucially – insure tax compliance.
Deliveroo and the likes will report earnings to Irish Revenue (as they have the account holders PPS) – so it’s no surprise the person in the image is getting a larger tax bill.
Pretty stupid mistake to make, they should have registered as a sole trader and taxed the people delivering on their behalf – but for obvious reasons, they don’t do that.
Delighted for them. Would also love to see the Brazilian slumlords taking advantage of their own people who are desperate enough to rent from them getting crucified by revenue
So their mistake was to put the account for rent without calculating how much to ask to make a profit after taxes.
A Level 1 Intervention is your last chance to stop fucking around before finding out what happens.
Those are just a mix ignorant and naive people that use their privilege of being a Brazilian/Argentinian with EU citizenship. Many (non EU) students cannot afford the cost of living and try to work full-time by pretending to be the owner of the account. That’s why you see an Ana or Patricia delivering food to you but it ends up being a man.
And they thought that it is “ok” to rent and “help” their countrymen. They thought that they would need to hide their extra income (extra 100eur/month), little did they know that all the money a rider made must be taxed and the account owner is the one liable for all.
In the end, riders got tax free money and are sorted. Account owners thought they were smart arses and now they are in a shite situation.
Life goes on.
The irony is that the quote reference “2023FoodDel”, more especially “FoodDel” sounds as “fodeu” in Portuguese – which means “fucked”.
2023 you got f*cked
I’ve noticed a lot of situations where the app says the rider has a womans name but a man arrives.
Only the tip of the iceberg here. The taxis were at this for a long time too.
As a wise man once said
You Wally
“Revenue are cracking down on immigration/tax fraud – ☹️”
This is just fraud that people who aren’t eligible to work in Ireland use to work as they’re breaking there visa terms otherwise
Where do I sign up?
DM me for my PPSN, DOB, account details, address and a list of my fears.
My entirely unprofessional opinion here is:
You stupid fuckin eejit.
You let someone use your name/PPSN to earn a wage and you’re shocked that it’s ended badly for you????????
well… who would know that committing fraud would come back to bite you on the ass.
How people this dense survive childhood is genuinely a marvel.
I’ve stopped using most of these kinds of delivery and similar services. They’re just ‘tech washing’ what is basically just creating horrible working conditions and totally undermining the concept of having a job.
It’s basically the Edwardian era with an app.
Ah, so now I know why Carolina was a dude.
Good. If you are trying to circumvent tax either directly and / or indirectly, no matter the gain, you deserved the full systems tax. It’s people this day and age that keep circumventing tax that has cause economies to fall apart because the balance sheet doesn’t match.
Then you have these drivers who do driving jobs on the side and wear Yeezys/ louboutins giving false sense of wealth in the market… Leading to a grand load of inflation in the markets.
Commit tax fraud
Get caught
*Shocked Pikachu face*
I had no idea this existed, but in all honesty it sounds like a very stupid scheme disguised as yet another clever way to make ez money without anyone knowing.
Good to see that they’re finally clamping down on these app working jobs not paying tax. Anecdotally I’ve spoken to lads who’ve been at it years and never paid a cent in tax.
The likes of deliveroo and uber eats rely on this to pay poverty wages to the desperate
LoL friend of a friend of mine was like 18K euro to pay.
Imagine letting other people earn wages using your name and PPS number and then be surprised when you get a tax bill.
There goes 90% of the delivery drivers in Dublin so. I spoke to a Brazilian colleague today and he knows dozens of drivers that do this (have you ever had the message “Claudia is on her way” and it’s a dude?)
This is a massive income source for the Brazilian students that come here that aren’t allowed to work more than 20 hours per week or for deliveroo if they don’t have European status, but as its unregulated where the account comes from within Europe, people make accounts just to rent them out to people.
We’re going to see a mass exodus of people fleeing their huge tax bills.
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Was inevitable this would happen. The laws that are in place have been ignored for years so it was only a matter of time before Revenue started to clamp down on it.
People are confused about what’s going on here.
The OP hasn’t been using their deliveroo account to actually do deliveroo work. They’ve been renting their account out. Someone else pays then a fee to use their deliveroo account for a period (presumably directing the money into their own account). OP makes money and does no work.
Why would someone rent a deliveroo account? Because they have no immigration status, or one that limits their ability to work. Often it’s those on student visas using it to work more than their limited hours without getting caught.
Problem for OP is that if revenue have data from deliveroo that data will say that OP has earned some hundreds or thousands of euros. In reality those renting the account have made that money, and paid only a small percentage to OP.
OP is fucked. He’s either liable for the tax, or he’s trying to explain that he’s not liable for the tax because, actually, he was facilitating immigration fraud.
How fucking stupid are you to rent out your ppsn number?
This explains why it said that my Deliveroo driver will be a girl in a red BMW but turns out it was a bloke on a Honda scooter.
Oh is that why “Leticia ” is down to deliver but it’s 100% not Leticia and more like Bruno who appears. Everytime.
There are other ways of earning money legally
Yeah don’t wanna mess with revenue. By far the most (or only) competent apparatus of the state.
What sort of moron was doing this?
Deliveroo riders are able to nominate other people to deliver for them – that isn’t against the rules. They are effectively nominating someone else to work on their behalf.
Where it gets murky is that Deliveroo put the responsibility on the main agreement holder (ie the account holder) to make sure the people delivering on their behalf have the legal right to work, deliver per the rules etc and crucially – insure tax compliance.
Deliveroo and the likes will report earnings to Irish Revenue (as they have the account holders PPS) – so it’s no surprise the person in the image is getting a larger tax bill.
Pretty stupid mistake to make, they should have registered as a sole trader and taxed the people delivering on their behalf – but for obvious reasons, they don’t do that.
Delighted for them. Would also love to see the Brazilian slumlords taking advantage of their own people who are desperate enough to rent from them getting crucified by revenue
So their mistake was to put the account for rent without calculating how much to ask to make a profit after taxes.
A Level 1 Intervention is your last chance to stop fucking around before finding out what happens.
Those are just a mix ignorant and naive people that use their privilege of being a Brazilian/Argentinian with EU citizenship. Many (non EU) students cannot afford the cost of living and try to work full-time by pretending to be the owner of the account. That’s why you see an Ana or Patricia delivering food to you but it ends up being a man.
And they thought that it is “ok” to rent and “help” their countrymen. They thought that they would need to hide their extra income (extra 100eur/month), little did they know that all the money a rider made must be taxed and the account owner is the one liable for all.
In the end, riders got tax free money and are sorted. Account owners thought they were smart arses and now they are in a shite situation.
Life goes on.
The irony is that the quote reference “2023FoodDel”, more especially “FoodDel” sounds as “fodeu” in Portuguese – which means “fucked”.
2023 you got f*cked
I’ve noticed a lot of situations where the app says the rider has a womans name but a man arrives.
Only the tip of the iceberg here. The taxis were at this for a long time too.
As a wise man once said
You Wally
“Revenue are cracking down on immigration/tax fraud – ☹️”
This is just fraud that people who aren’t eligible to work in Ireland use to work as they’re breaking there visa terms otherwise
Where do I sign up?
DM me for my PPSN, DOB, account details, address and a list of my fears.
My entirely unprofessional opinion here is:
You stupid fuckin eejit.
You let someone use your name/PPSN to earn a wage and you’re shocked that it’s ended badly for you????????
well… who would know that committing fraud would come back to bite you on the ass.
How people this dense survive childhood is genuinely a marvel.
I’ve stopped using most of these kinds of delivery and similar services. They’re just ‘tech washing’ what is basically just creating horrible working conditions and totally undermining the concept of having a job.
It’s basically the Edwardian era with an app.
Ah, so now I know why Carolina was a dude.
Good. If you are trying to circumvent tax either directly and / or indirectly, no matter the gain, you deserved the full systems tax. It’s people this day and age that keep circumventing tax that has cause economies to fall apart because the balance sheet doesn’t match.
Then you have these drivers who do driving jobs on the side and wear Yeezys/ louboutins giving false sense of wealth in the market… Leading to a grand load of inflation in the markets.
Commit tax fraud
Get caught
*Shocked Pikachu face*
I had no idea this existed, but in all honesty it sounds like a very stupid scheme disguised as yet another clever way to make ez money without anyone knowing.
Good to see that they’re finally clamping down on these app working jobs not paying tax. Anecdotally I’ve spoken to lads who’ve been at it years and never paid a cent in tax.
The likes of deliveroo and uber eats rely on this to pay poverty wages to the desperate
LoL friend of a friend of mine was like 18K euro to pay.
Imagine letting other people earn wages using your name and PPS number and then be surprised when you get a tax bill.
There goes 90% of the delivery drivers in Dublin so. I spoke to a Brazilian colleague today and he knows dozens of drivers that do this (have you ever had the message “Claudia is on her way” and it’s a dude?)
This is a massive income source for the Brazilian students that come here that aren’t allowed to work more than 20 hours per week or for deliveroo if they don’t have European status, but as its unregulated where the account comes from within Europe, people make accounts just to rent them out to people.
We’re going to see a mass exodus of people fleeing their huge tax bills.