> Only 46% of Romanians today believe that Romania’s membership of the European Union is a good thing, compared to 62% of the European average, according to the ninth edition of the European Parliament’s Eurobarometer, Sociodemographic Trends 2007 – 2022. According to the survey, in 2015 the number of Romanians who said EU membership was a good thing was much higher, at 68%, compared to the EU average at the time of 54%.
> The graph shows that Romanians’ confidence in the EU plummeted with the onset of the pandemic, when Brussels introduced strict travel rules conditional on the vaccine. According to the survey, in 2020 they were still in the European average when asked if EU membership was a good thing (55% Romania, 59% European average) but since then the gap has steadily widened: while at European level trust in the EU has grown, in Romania it has steadily collapsed.
wonder how much of this is caused by schengen disillusion
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I Googled this for a bit and it seems the E.U. isn’t happy with Romania either, lol
*Edit* see my comment below, cheers
>They should be more disappointed in their own leaders and politicians rather than in the EU institutions and what the EU has been able to do for them.”
russian propaganda runs rampant in Romania
– 60-70% of people don’t ever vote
– 80% of people who vote, vote for the same trash corrupt politicians they voted 20-30 years ago. Or now they’re voting for their kids who have been raised to be corrupt.
– There’s a general lack of education when it comes to geopolitics and economics in Romania.
– Most of the media is controlled by the ruling party because they spend crazy amounts of money for TV coverage. Obviously the money comes from the country’s budget.
– There is some independent media who is doing a great job trying to fight corruption. But they only have support from a small part of the population. And they’re being harassed quite a lot by politicians.
– The justice system is also pretty much controlled by the ruling party.
– 46% number is expected. And I don’t see any improvement in the near future because in my opinion European justice laws go way too soft on politicians.
Prime example when hate and disappointment absorbs rationality.
romania has lost nearly 20% of their population since joining the eu. of course there will be romanian business owners there and those in healthcare industry like ‘dude wtf’ despite all the overwhelming positives that being eu member has brought it since joining
That happens, when all educated people leave your country and only people with low education or elderly stay in your country.
Were people living in Romania asked, or Romanians across the EU. This makes a huge difference.
Seems like an error or something, it doesn’t fit with how I see things.
It has nothing in common with Brits and Brexit. Here is about the second citizens type of thing we are even after 15 years of being in EU (thanks Nehammer🖕) The enthusiasm is gone especially after we see that our corrupt convicted politicians or *businessmen* can just move to Italy and Greece and not be extradite here to serve their sentences.
Edit: Not my opinion obviously. I think EU is the best thing my country has in its entire history. I just explain why something like that could happen. We were extremely enthusiastic about EU until a few years ago.
r/bulgaria will find this intresting
Romanian here. In my opinion there are a few things that make most of the population distrust/dislike the EU.
* Religion. The general population is very religious, they believe in the Church more than in anything else. It is a very fundamentalist religion so the western liberty we associate with the EU (LGBTQ+ positvity, more pro immigration, etc.) is very disliked by the majority of Romanians. On the positive note it’s been on the decline since the early 2000’s.
* Very weak education system. The only thing Romanians are good at is sending a few kids to the science olimpiads, which is basically still a communist tradition. I don’t remember the numbers but a very very high percentage of people are semi illiterate, meaning they can read the text, but can’t make sense of it.
* Covid. Covid might be the main reason it decreased so much lately, people completely lost their minds. Romanians don’t trust the vaccine, didn’t want any lockdowns, don’t believe the death toll it caused and naturally we have one of the lowest vaccination rates across the EU.
I was always pro EU but after covid and now the war in Ukraine I’ve become a complete EU and NATO shill, and I’m so glad we are part of both organizations and hopefully we will come around.
I think the biggest reason for this is skyrocketing prices and to a certain extent the pandemy and the war.
As an example my grandparents pay around 300 euro monthly for gas and that’s almost a minimum wage here.
Edit: I also think the US is seen in a better light here for various reasons.
You seem to be average for Europe. Nothing strange. The positive against the negative are 3 to 1.
Romanian here living in Ro. I have serious doubt about the result of this survey!
I can only speak for the limited opinions I’ve been exposed to, including other news media, but I find it extremely weird to be this big of a discrepancy. I remember just last year being aware we were some of the most pro-EU as a whole population, with confidence rising alongside being part of NATO, not in small part due to the war. It’s true that the last Schengen vote did a lot of damage and brought disappointment, but it doesn’t change 15+ years of benefits as an EU member. To read now that we are below EU average confidence comes as a surprise.
G4media has had its share of untrustworthy news, but they write the source of the survey is EU parliament. However, the poll is only on 1000 people and stating that actually results may vary 27.2% – 32.8%. The way the questions were framed or how the results were interpreted can vary greatly depending on who reports it. We should also consider the current inflation that has hit the whole of Europe which is bound of take some confidence points from everyone. Ro was at 15% in January.
I will maintain my doubt about this piece of news as I do more research.
I agree. I went to Romania last summer and people were saying that U.K. did a fantastic thing with Brexit, and that they could do it because they’re a wealthy country, and good for them. I was like “WTF?!”. So this news doesn’t surprise me.
Similar shit in Bulgaria. Keep on brothers…
The ones that likes it have all moved to other european countries lmao
Interesting. I happen to live in another country that joined the Union just before Romania and here support for EU is among the highest in the block due to the access to EU funds that are being used left and right for infrastructure and modernization processes.
I somehow assumed the situation would be along similar lines in other 2004 and 2007 EU access countries.
I wouldn’t trust that poll! Doesn’t have any sense! Romania was, not long ago, one of the top countries by trusting the EU.
These we’re from last year when the population trust in the EU was abot 70%. There’s no way those numbers could change as much. I found those links in 2 minutes with a simple search, I’m sure there are more…
still pissed about Schengen, I see…
I’ll guarantee you the part of Romania wanting to leave NATO is on the up-and-up too. In Sweden there is a very big neonazi-friendly demographic that want to steer clear of NATO, to appease Good Leader Putin.
Who would have thought that giving up your sovereign rights for a corporate bureaucracy was a bad idea.
I guess the 46% want to Romain. (Sorry I couldn’t resists)
Anyone have any ideas why this low?
Big task for EU agencies to make the EU work for all Romanians, also the less privileged, and demonstrate that.
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DeepL translation:
> Only 46% of Romanians today believe that Romania’s membership of the European Union is a good thing, compared to 62% of the European average, according to the ninth edition of the European Parliament’s Eurobarometer, Sociodemographic Trends 2007 – 2022. According to the survey, in 2015 the number of Romanians who said EU membership was a good thing was much higher, at 68%, compared to the EU average at the time of 54%.
> The graph shows that Romanians’ confidence in the EU plummeted with the onset of the pandemic, when Brussels introduced strict travel rules conditional on the vaccine. According to the survey, in 2020 they were still in the European average when asked if EU membership was a good thing (55% Romania, 59% European average) but since then the gap has steadily widened: while at European level trust in the EU has grown, in Romania it has steadily collapsed.
wonder how much of this is caused by schengen disillusion
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I Googled this for a bit and it seems the E.U. isn’t happy with Romania either, lol
*Edit* see my comment below, cheers
>They should be more disappointed in their own leaders and politicians rather than in the EU institutions and what the EU has been able to do for them.”
russian propaganda runs rampant in Romania
– 60-70% of people don’t ever vote
– 80% of people who vote, vote for the same trash corrupt politicians they voted 20-30 years ago. Or now they’re voting for their kids who have been raised to be corrupt.
– There’s a general lack of education when it comes to geopolitics and economics in Romania.
– Most of the media is controlled by the ruling party because they spend crazy amounts of money for TV coverage. Obviously the money comes from the country’s budget.
– There is some independent media who is doing a great job trying to fight corruption. But they only have support from a small part of the population. And they’re being harassed quite a lot by politicians.
– The justice system is also pretty much controlled by the ruling party.
– 46% number is expected. And I don’t see any improvement in the near future because in my opinion European justice laws go way too soft on politicians.
Prime example when hate and disappointment absorbs rationality.
romania has lost nearly 20% of their population since joining the eu. of course there will be romanian business owners there and those in healthcare industry like ‘dude wtf’ despite all the overwhelming positives that being eu member has brought it since joining
That happens, when all educated people leave your country and only people with low education or elderly stay in your country.
Were people living in Romania asked, or Romanians across the EU. This makes a huge difference.
Seems like an error or something, it doesn’t fit with how I see things.
It has nothing in common with Brits and Brexit. Here is about the second citizens type of thing we are even after 15 years of being in EU (thanks Nehammer🖕) The enthusiasm is gone especially after we see that our corrupt convicted politicians or *businessmen* can just move to Italy and Greece and not be extradite here to serve their sentences.
Edit: Not my opinion obviously. I think EU is the best thing my country has in its entire history. I just explain why something like that could happen. We were extremely enthusiastic about EU until a few years ago.
r/bulgaria will find this intresting
Romanian here. In my opinion there are a few things that make most of the population distrust/dislike the EU.
* Religion. The general population is very religious, they believe in the Church more than in anything else. It is a very fundamentalist religion so the western liberty we associate with the EU (LGBTQ+ positvity, more pro immigration, etc.) is very disliked by the majority of Romanians. On the positive note it’s been on the decline since the early 2000’s.
* Very weak education system. The only thing Romanians are good at is sending a few kids to the science olimpiads, which is basically still a communist tradition. I don’t remember the numbers but a very very high percentage of people are semi illiterate, meaning they can read the text, but can’t make sense of it.
* Covid. Covid might be the main reason it decreased so much lately, people completely lost their minds. Romanians don’t trust the vaccine, didn’t want any lockdowns, don’t believe the death toll it caused and naturally we have one of the lowest vaccination rates across the EU.
I was always pro EU but after covid and now the war in Ukraine I’ve become a complete EU and NATO shill, and I’m so glad we are part of both organizations and hopefully we will come around.
I think the biggest reason for this is skyrocketing prices and to a certain extent the pandemy and the war.
As an example my grandparents pay around 300 euro monthly for gas and that’s almost a minimum wage here.
Edit: I also think the US is seen in a better light here for various reasons.
You seem to be average for Europe. Nothing strange. The positive against the negative are 3 to 1.
Romanian here living in Ro. I have serious doubt about the result of this survey!
I can only speak for the limited opinions I’ve been exposed to, including other news media, but I find it extremely weird to be this big of a discrepancy. I remember just last year being aware we were some of the most pro-EU as a whole population, with confidence rising alongside being part of NATO, not in small part due to the war. It’s true that the last Schengen vote did a lot of damage and brought disappointment, but it doesn’t change 15+ years of benefits as an EU member. To read now that we are below EU average confidence comes as a surprise.
G4media has had its share of untrustworthy news, but they write the source of the survey is EU parliament. However, the poll is only on 1000 people and stating that actually results may vary 27.2% – 32.8%. The way the questions were framed or how the results were interpreted can vary greatly depending on who reports it. We should also consider the current inflation that has hit the whole of Europe which is bound of take some confidence points from everyone. Ro was at 15% in January.
I will maintain my doubt about this piece of news as I do more research.
I agree. I went to Romania last summer and people were saying that U.K. did a fantastic thing with Brexit, and that they could do it because they’re a wealthy country, and good for them. I was like “WTF?!”. So this news doesn’t surprise me.
Similar shit in Bulgaria. Keep on brothers…
The ones that likes it have all moved to other european countries lmao
Interesting. I happen to live in another country that joined the Union just before Romania and here support for EU is among the highest in the block due to the access to EU funds that are being used left and right for infrastructure and modernization processes.
I somehow assumed the situation would be along similar lines in other 2004 and 2007 EU access countries.
I wouldn’t trust that poll! Doesn’t have any sense! Romania was, not long ago, one of the top countries by trusting the EU.
https://www.romania-insider.com/security-barometer-romanians-optimistic-america-eu-2022
https://www.romaniajournal.ro/politics/poll-romanians-confidence-in-nato-eu-and-germany-increased/
These we’re from last year when the population trust in the EU was abot 70%. There’s no way those numbers could change as much. I found those links in 2 minutes with a simple search, I’m sure there are more…
still pissed about Schengen, I see…
I’ll guarantee you the part of Romania wanting to leave NATO is on the up-and-up too. In Sweden there is a very big neonazi-friendly demographic that want to steer clear of NATO, to appease Good Leader Putin.
Who would have thought that giving up your sovereign rights for a corporate bureaucracy was a bad idea.
I guess the 46% want to Romain. (Sorry I couldn’t resists)
Anyone have any ideas why this low?
Big task for EU agencies to make the EU work for all Romanians, also the less privileged, and demonstrate that.