Well yeah we could have done a lot to avoid this, but I think a lot of people enjoyed the freedom to be “acceptably” racist that was given to them.
Seen some insanely racist stuff said and written in the first few months of the war and couldn’t believe british “liberals” were taking part.
Shows a lot of people’s “values” are for appearances. People are just waiting for the ok to show their true face.
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No different to Middle Eastern people getting abuse because of terrorists of South East Asian people getting abuse because of COVID. Not all Russians support Putin and his war, I’d argue those who do not live in Russia are vehemently against it because they are not consuming much Russian propaganda. Racists are just looking for their excuse to be racist.
People aren’t less racist, or discriminatory, they just find loopholes in the system.
This is one of them
Turn back, this comments section is an utter cesspit
There’s a lot of really, really, really stupid people out there, and the media encourages them.
The actual article is, pretty thin, they called up every police force in the UK, most got back to them and even the examples they picked out are full of “beleived this was because they were russian”
Then the whole back end of the article is that if there are some there are probably loads! Any evidence of that? Nope
Seems like they had the idea for the thesis of the article before they even started looking for proof.
Honestly if some ordinary person takes abuse for being from anywhere that’s vile.
But every oligarch hiding cash in London should have had their assets seized 6 months ago.
Putin has rigged elections imagine if we had boris johnson for 23 years. Russian cannot do shit about it. Some people in the UK don’t even think scary as shit
People on reddit posting celebratory videos of Russians being killed by drone strikes was certainly a low point for the site.
its always the people who have nothing to do with a cause that get hurt as well
Asians should not be blamed because of covid in the same manner that Russians should not be blamed because of Putin. Time will come, Russians will revolt against him.
Dunno if this is what we are seeing here, but:
In between the media hysteria, and probably thanks to comments by the government of the Ukraine, some people have adopted ideas from about 100 years ago that dictates people = their government.
That is what I call jingoism. Thankfully, it’s only the dumbest of the public that have taken it completely onboard. But unfortunately, those people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between Ukrainians and Russians, and definitely not Russian-speaking Ukrainians and other Russians…. Hell, not even sure they could tell the difference between Russians and other Eastern Europeans.
I sincerely hope this is is not what we’re seeing here.
Have seen a lot of dehumanising shit against Russians ever since the war started. People are insane.
Same thing happened to Asians when Covid happened, some people are just dumb as fuck
We hear about the hate crime of a kid dropping the Quran but none of these xenophobic attacks are reported… I don’t think there are as many as they’re making out
I don’t condone attacks on Russians here of course, but the selection of images in this article is very odd. Graffiti on the Russian Embassy, or even the anti-Putin one on the wall in Slough are legitimate political protests against this reprehensible invasion. It might indirectly contribute to hostility against Russians here, so we should clamp down on any violence, but frankly this is the price of Putin’s war.
A lot of things are going wrong in the UK at the moment, but the near universal support for Ukraine is something to be encouraged by.
Sounds like a good way of convincing these people of what the Russian government is telling them: the West hates everything Russian.
It’s better to try and be the grownups and continue supporting Ukraine against the Russian government/military, while giving any Russians in the UK the benefit of the doubt. And even then not literally assaulting them if they do turn out even slightly supportive (propaganda exists for a reason).
Kind of thought this was an obvious take, but the comments make me think otherwise.
The government and the media play a big part in creating hate crime with its narratives.
Our population is/are so fucking dumb.
Myself included for not knowing whether it should be ‘is’ or ‘are’, not for the racism and xenophobia.
I know Greek people who hate all Turkish people.
I know American people who hate all Middle Eastern people.
Now i know Western people who hate all Russian people.
I wonder what these people would say to the notion of feeling guilty that Brits have invaded 90% of the planet.
Wonder how many Polskis have got it in the neck from our lovely Nationalists, mistakenly thinking they’re one and the same as the Moscovites.
Sadly the Russians I know in the U.K. are weird pro Putin fanatics despite fleeing Russia during the 90s and 2000s.
Tends to happen when our government pushes the idea that a foreign country is responsible for everything that’s going wrong here.
The war in Ukraine has been blamed for food shortages, the cost of living crisis, and even for contributing to immigration.
Instead of taking responsibility for their own policies that have led us here, its a lot easier to just blame Russia as an all powerful, machiavellian enemy and if that stokes up tension and hatred against innocent people, so be it. Its all worth it if it helps them gain votes in the next election.
2001 Ukraine Census, Ukrainians make up 78% of the population, while ethnic Russians Ukrainians are 17.3% of the population 11 million Ukrainians have Russian family. About a third of Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language. Hatred & Xenophobia against Russians is Hatred & Xenophobia against Ukrainians.
There is a massive amount of Xenophobia, hatred and discrimination against Russians right now for a war they can do nothing about which started back in 2014 and has only escalated since then. Thousands protested in Russia against the war, politicians & the media spoke out against it and all dissent was put down by the Government. Politicians assassinated, protesters imprisoned. Hundreds of thousands of Russians left Russia because of the war, knowing there is nothing to stop Putin. (Imagine if YOU were in that position) Some of them are stuck there caring for elderly parents or family or who don’t have the ability to escape.
You see this same hatred and Xenophobia on Reddit with people saying Russians are inherently evil and other vile crap. Exactly the same vile hatred that Nazis came out about minorities & the Jews to justify themselves. People saying that Russians are sub human or other horrific crap. It’s disgusting and not true at all. They’re no different to us, other than living under a fascist regime that silences dissent.
I have worked alongside norway russia finland and germany people and have friends in them countries. The Russians i know are against the war but they feel powerless.
I can respect those who have left Russia because they want nothing to do with the “Z” regime, they should be left to live in peace they have done nothing wrong. Those who are publicly in support of “Z” can get fucked and anything bad that happens to them they brought upon themselves.
I feel psychologically there would be less racist rhetoric if headlines mentioned ‘Putin’ rather than ‘Russia’. It’s dehumanising and fails to reflect the war is not a choice of Russian citizens.
At work there was a lot of “send them all back talk” in the days after the invasion, so I’m not surprised. That extended to the Ukrainians who “should be fighting” btw. I didn’t smile at someone for unrelated reasons (I smile at everyone and everyone stops me for a chat for context) and a person assumed it was because they are Russian. They obviously felt the atmosphere, thought I felt the same, and were genuinely relieved I wasn’t mad at them personally.
Another older woman spoke to friend and warned them they were Russian saying “are you sure you want to speak to me?” This woman can be very mean-looking and now gives the friend old-lady Russian sweets every time they see my friend, after everything was cleared up.
I know it might not be many reported incidents but there was actual tension from what I saw.
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Well yeah we could have done a lot to avoid this, but I think a lot of people enjoyed the freedom to be “acceptably” racist that was given to them.
Seen some insanely racist stuff said and written in the first few months of the war and couldn’t believe british “liberals” were taking part.
Shows a lot of people’s “values” are for appearances. People are just waiting for the ok to show their true face.
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No different to Middle Eastern people getting abuse because of terrorists of South East Asian people getting abuse because of COVID. Not all Russians support Putin and his war, I’d argue those who do not live in Russia are vehemently against it because they are not consuming much Russian propaganda. Racists are just looking for their excuse to be racist.
People aren’t less racist, or discriminatory, they just find loopholes in the system.
This is one of them
Turn back, this comments section is an utter cesspit
There’s a lot of really, really, really stupid people out there, and the media encourages them.
The actual article is, pretty thin, they called up every police force in the UK, most got back to them and even the examples they picked out are full of “beleived this was because they were russian”
Then the whole back end of the article is that if there are some there are probably loads! Any evidence of that? Nope
Seems like they had the idea for the thesis of the article before they even started looking for proof.
Honestly if some ordinary person takes abuse for being from anywhere that’s vile.
But every oligarch hiding cash in London should have had their assets seized 6 months ago.
Putin has rigged elections imagine if we had boris johnson for 23 years. Russian cannot do shit about it. Some people in the UK don’t even think scary as shit
People on reddit posting celebratory videos of Russians being killed by drone strikes was certainly a low point for the site.
its always the people who have nothing to do with a cause that get hurt as well
Asians should not be blamed because of covid in the same manner that Russians should not be blamed because of Putin. Time will come, Russians will revolt against him.
Dunno if this is what we are seeing here, but:
In between the media hysteria, and probably thanks to comments by the government of the Ukraine, some people have adopted ideas from about 100 years ago that dictates people = their government.
That is what I call jingoism. Thankfully, it’s only the dumbest of the public that have taken it completely onboard. But unfortunately, those people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between Ukrainians and Russians, and definitely not Russian-speaking Ukrainians and other Russians…. Hell, not even sure they could tell the difference between Russians and other Eastern Europeans.
I sincerely hope this is is not what we’re seeing here.
Have seen a lot of dehumanising shit against Russians ever since the war started. People are insane.
Same thing happened to Asians when Covid happened, some people are just dumb as fuck
We hear about the hate crime of a kid dropping the Quran but none of these xenophobic attacks are reported… I don’t think there are as many as they’re making out
I don’t condone attacks on Russians here of course, but the selection of images in this article is very odd. Graffiti on the Russian Embassy, or even the anti-Putin one on the wall in Slough are legitimate political protests against this reprehensible invasion. It might indirectly contribute to hostility against Russians here, so we should clamp down on any violence, but frankly this is the price of Putin’s war.
A lot of things are going wrong in the UK at the moment, but the near universal support for Ukraine is something to be encouraged by.
Sounds like a good way of convincing these people of what the Russian government is telling them: the West hates everything Russian.
It’s better to try and be the grownups and continue supporting Ukraine against the Russian government/military, while giving any Russians in the UK the benefit of the doubt. And even then not literally assaulting them if they do turn out even slightly supportive (propaganda exists for a reason).
Kind of thought this was an obvious take, but the comments make me think otherwise.
The government and the media play a big part in creating hate crime with its narratives.
Our population is/are so fucking dumb.
Myself included for not knowing whether it should be ‘is’ or ‘are’, not for the racism and xenophobia.
I know Greek people who hate all Turkish people.
I know American people who hate all Middle Eastern people.
Now i know Western people who hate all Russian people.
I wonder what these people would say to the notion of feeling guilty that Brits have invaded 90% of the planet.
Wonder how many Polskis have got it in the neck from our lovely Nationalists, mistakenly thinking they’re one and the same as the Moscovites.
Sadly the Russians I know in the U.K. are weird pro Putin fanatics despite fleeing Russia during the 90s and 2000s.
Tends to happen when our government pushes the idea that a foreign country is responsible for everything that’s going wrong here.
The war in Ukraine has been blamed for food shortages, the cost of living crisis, and even for contributing to immigration.
Instead of taking responsibility for their own policies that have led us here, its a lot easier to just blame Russia as an all powerful, machiavellian enemy and if that stokes up tension and hatred against innocent people, so be it. Its all worth it if it helps them gain votes in the next election.
2001 Ukraine Census, Ukrainians make up 78% of the population, while ethnic Russians Ukrainians are 17.3% of the population 11 million Ukrainians have Russian family. About a third of Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language. Hatred & Xenophobia against Russians is Hatred & Xenophobia against Ukrainians.
There is a massive amount of Xenophobia, hatred and discrimination against Russians right now for a war they can do nothing about which started back in 2014 and has only escalated since then. Thousands protested in Russia against the war, politicians & the media spoke out against it and all dissent was put down by the Government. Politicians assassinated, protesters imprisoned. Hundreds of thousands of Russians left Russia because of the war, knowing there is nothing to stop Putin. (Imagine if YOU were in that position) Some of them are stuck there caring for elderly parents or family or who don’t have the ability to escape.
You see this same hatred and Xenophobia on Reddit with people saying Russians are inherently evil and other vile crap. Exactly the same vile hatred that Nazis came out about minorities & the Jews to justify themselves. People saying that Russians are sub human or other horrific crap. It’s disgusting and not true at all. They’re no different to us, other than living under a fascist regime that silences dissent.
I have worked alongside norway russia finland and germany people and have friends in them countries. The Russians i know are against the war but they feel powerless.
I can respect those who have left Russia because they want nothing to do with the “Z” regime, they should be left to live in peace they have done nothing wrong. Those who are publicly in support of “Z” can get fucked and anything bad that happens to them they brought upon themselves.
I feel psychologically there would be less racist rhetoric if headlines mentioned ‘Putin’ rather than ‘Russia’. It’s dehumanising and fails to reflect the war is not a choice of Russian citizens.
At work there was a lot of “send them all back talk” in the days after the invasion, so I’m not surprised. That extended to the Ukrainians who “should be fighting” btw. I didn’t smile at someone for unrelated reasons (I smile at everyone and everyone stops me for a chat for context) and a person assumed it was because they are Russian. They obviously felt the atmosphere, thought I felt the same, and were genuinely relieved I wasn’t mad at them personally.
Another older woman spoke to friend and warned them they were Russian saying “are you sure you want to speak to me?” This woman can be very mean-looking and now gives the friend old-lady Russian sweets every time they see my friend, after everything was cleared up.
I know it might not be many reported incidents but there was actual tension from what I saw.