Just in case you were wondering if our politicians are focussing on actual important issues.
Dus wacht: een politica, van een partij die sinds mensenheugenis pleit voor minder overheid, draait de keuze van een onafhankelijk kunstencentrum terug waardoor de directeur van dat centrum zich genoodzaakt voelt om ontslag te nemen. Dit een dikke twee weken nadat de voorzitter van die partij een kruistocht tegen de vermeende “links-progressieve-woke-cancelcultuur” start.
Om het op zijn Gary Linekers te zeggen: “dit begint akelig om de jaren ’30 te lijken.”
> “Aan deze cancelcultuur doe ik niet mee”, zo reageert Nabilla Ait Daoud donderdagochtend op Radio 1.
So after millennia of cancelling everyone and anything in society that isn’t a rich fat white male, [replacing some – not even all – of these portraits](https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20230316_92260999) is cancel culture.
You can’t make this up.
But it doesn’t stop there. Apparently a director of a theater these days needs to go beg for approval of our glorious politicians for each and every little decision they’d like to make.
> op radio 1: “De kern van de zaak is eigenlijk een directeur die beslist heeft – op eigen houtje – om historische figuren te gaan vervangen door foto’s van Mous Lambarat. Dat is niet de manier van werken, als directeur moet hoet het komen bespreken op het kabinet, en dat heeft hij niet gedaan.”
Woke for thee but not for me! (Or is it the other way around? I don’t know anymore)
What is her problem? Politicians should stay out of these matters. Especially these old farts that want to impose their narrowmindedness.
Wat een gezeik, een politici die zich daarmee bezig houdt heeft precies niet genoeg werk op zijn/haar bord.
Entartete
I think they took “culture war” a bit too literal.
just in case you were wondering if our politicians are oriented to the future or to history
Hahaha, ze hebben de foto van Ait Daoud vervangen door een “neutrale” foto van de kunstgalerij. It was a bit much om een smirking politica bij zo’n belachelijke uitspraak te zetten, zeker? Ge zou bekans denken dat ze er plezier in had om domme uitspraken te doen!
Het is een schouwburg/theater. Wat maakt het uit wat waar hangt? In geval van een museum kon ik het nog begrijpen, maar dit?
Judging by the shit accrued on this woman’s resume as alderman in charge of culture, I’d wager good money on her receiving a minister post in the next Flemish government.
Nu dat Bartje volledig op de anti-woke trein is gesprongen moet hij natuurlijk consequent zijn en alles dat “woke” uit zijn stad halen.
Na de gefaalde oorlog tegen coke brengt de NVA ons nu de War on Woke.
“Wat wij doen is niet cancellen, wij herstellen alleen de oude orde.”
This wave of “vervlaamsing” is more woke as actual woke.
>1 “The cult of tradition”, characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
Pretty clearly what’s happening. Nothing new can be learned, only the tradition can be continued.
>2 “The rejection of modernism”, which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
Mostly because they’re signalling “woke” as a modern change, and they try to frame this inside that.
>3 “The cult of action for action’s sake”, which dictates that action is of value in itself and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
Their only reason for doing this is to signal to a specific group that they are doing it.
>4 “Disagreement is treason” – fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
Part of their signalling. They have a belief and those who go against it are somehow “against the people”. The people, in this case, the state equates themselves to the people. Another sign of fascism in many definitions. See item 13.
>5 “Fear of difference”, which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
Part of the signalling.
>7 “Obsession with a plot” and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite’s “fear” of the 1930s Jewish populace’s businesses and well-doings; see also antisemitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson’s book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
That’s how they’re signalling this.
>8 Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as “at the same time too strong and too weak”. On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
And part of that signalling means to imply this is being forced on people, as they constantly claim.
>13 “Selective populism” – the people, conceived monolithically, have a common will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of “no longer represent[ing] the voice of the people”.
N-VA claims to speak for all people, but they do not. Systems where “the state” equates itself to “the people” is a signifier of fascism. They also constantly attack “activist institutions” like Unia and “activist judges”.
Juist, het was gevaarlijke cancelcultuur om moderne portretten in dialoog te laten gaan met oude schilderijen. Dankuwel om ons daarvan te behoeden, mevrouw de schepen!
Ze zijn echt succesvol de cultuuroorlog uit de USA aan het importeren. Als transvrouw maakt mij dat waanzinnig bang want hoe ver gaan ze gaan met hun import, als je de recente anti-trans kruistocht bij de republikeinen ziet.
When you’ve got nothing to show so you resort to culture war nonsense to get your name in the news.
I love Antwerp but oh my fucking God I hate our politicians
So politicians decide acceptable culture now ?
Of zoals ze hier zeggen, een nabilla’ke doen.
_Why_ can’t we change the paintings? They weren’t materialized to only hang there. Have them rotate a set of different paintings, different things, every month, or seasonally? Why does this need to be about “woke” and “cancel culture”, wtf are these arguments?
> “We zijn weer bezig met de cancelcultuur”, Luc Lemmens (N-VA) verklaart waarom de werken weg moeten
Let’s cancel this change! – Luc Lemmens
Uh wait? Are we the cancel culture? Are we kneejerk reacting?
> Woke wilt geschiedenis wissen
Refuses to show anything other than specific set of paintings instead. It screams “I like the status quo because it represents me, so don’t you dare change it”.
It’s not “woke” to get tired of how the design of something looks or want to modernize something. I enjoy classical art, but tbh it can really date an environment and make buildings look boujie. I’d expect any city (other than Bruges which prides itself on how dated it looks) would rather show they aren’t stuck in an era.
Worst of all is, they are literally arguing about _paintings_ on a wall most of us never really care about. The hell, you guys have nothing more important to do in Antwerp than to play interior design specialist? I mean we can get rid of a few of you then if that’s your daily concern..
Er heeft iemand een carrièrreswitch naar binnenhuisarchitect nodig.
that’s another ‘yikes’ from me guys.
Elk artikel tegenwoordig bevat het woord woke of cancelcultuur. Soms heb ik toch heimwee naar de dagen dat de massa deze woorden nog niet kende
Who is this person, Woke?
Whenever there are stories like this, I wonder what other ‘real’ story there is they are trying to distract from/don’t want the general public to know about/linger on.
In case anyone was curious, the N-Va dude behind all this is Luk Lemmens, who used to organise the IJzerwake (you know, the nazi-version of the IJzerbedevaart).
Nogmaals bewezen dat de N-VA het tolerantievermogen van een kleuter hebben.
Does this Daoud figure have zero self respect?
It seems very obvious that she’s just there so the NVA can push through their right wing extremist culture policies, and she’s just there so the NVA can say “look, look, she’s not white, you can’t call us racist anymore, nananananana!!!!”.
cANceL CuLTurE!11!!!!1!
Antwerps stadsbestuur verplicht Arenberg om multiculturele foto’s ergens anders in Arenberg op te hangen was een iets minder pakkende headline zeker?
De N-VA is zonder mensen of groepen gevallen om als schuldige aan te wijzen voor alles wat verkeerd loopt. Dus dan hebben ze het imaginair “woke” troetelbeertje maar uitgevonden die de schuld moet dragen van alles wat verkeerd loopt!
Foei, woke troetelbeer! Hoe durf je stoffige schilderijen waar niemand om geeft te vervangen door modernere foto’s met een boodschap!
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Just in case you were wondering if our politicians are focussing on actual important issues.
Dus wacht: een politica, van een partij die sinds mensenheugenis pleit voor minder overheid, draait de keuze van een onafhankelijk kunstencentrum terug waardoor de directeur van dat centrum zich genoodzaakt voelt om ontslag te nemen. Dit een dikke twee weken nadat de voorzitter van die partij een kruistocht tegen de vermeende “links-progressieve-woke-cancelcultuur” start.
Om het op zijn Gary Linekers te zeggen: “dit begint akelig om de jaren ’30 te lijken.”
> “Aan deze cancelcultuur doe ik niet mee”, zo reageert Nabilla Ait Daoud donderdagochtend op Radio 1.
So after millennia of cancelling everyone and anything in society that isn’t a rich fat white male, [replacing some – not even all – of these portraits](https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20230316_92260999) is cancel culture.
You can’t make this up.
But it doesn’t stop there. Apparently a director of a theater these days needs to go beg for approval of our glorious politicians for each and every little decision they’d like to make.
> op radio 1: “De kern van de zaak is eigenlijk een directeur die beslist heeft – op eigen houtje – om historische figuren te gaan vervangen door foto’s van Mous Lambarat. Dat is niet de manier van werken, als directeur moet hoet het komen bespreken op het kabinet, en dat heeft hij niet gedaan.”
Woke for thee but not for me! (Or is it the other way around? I don’t know anymore)
What is her problem? Politicians should stay out of these matters. Especially these old farts that want to impose their narrowmindedness.
Wat een gezeik, een politici die zich daarmee bezig houdt heeft precies niet genoeg werk op zijn/haar bord.
Entartete
I think they took “culture war” a bit too literal.
just in case you were wondering if our politicians are oriented to the future or to history
Hahaha, ze hebben de foto van Ait Daoud vervangen door een “neutrale” foto van de kunstgalerij. It was a bit much om een smirking politica bij zo’n belachelijke uitspraak te zetten, zeker? Ge zou bekans denken dat ze er plezier in had om domme uitspraken te doen!
Het is een schouwburg/theater. Wat maakt het uit wat waar hangt? In geval van een museum kon ik het nog begrijpen, maar dit?
Judging by the shit accrued on this woman’s resume as alderman in charge of culture, I’d wager good money on her receiving a minister post in the next Flemish government.
Nu dat Bartje volledig op de anti-woke trein is gesprongen moet hij natuurlijk consequent zijn en alles dat “woke” uit zijn stad halen.
Na de gefaalde oorlog tegen coke brengt de NVA ons nu de War on Woke.
“Wat wij doen is niet cancellen, wij herstellen alleen de oude orde.”
This wave of “vervlaamsing” is more woke as actual woke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco
Far as I can see, this hits the following points:
>1 “The cult of tradition”, characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
Pretty clearly what’s happening. Nothing new can be learned, only the tradition can be continued.
>2 “The rejection of modernism”, which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
Mostly because they’re signalling “woke” as a modern change, and they try to frame this inside that.
>3 “The cult of action for action’s sake”, which dictates that action is of value in itself and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
Their only reason for doing this is to signal to a specific group that they are doing it.
>4 “Disagreement is treason” – fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
Part of their signalling. They have a belief and those who go against it are somehow “against the people”. The people, in this case, the state equates themselves to the people. Another sign of fascism in many definitions. See item 13.
>5 “Fear of difference”, which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
Part of the signalling.
>7 “Obsession with a plot” and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite’s “fear” of the 1930s Jewish populace’s businesses and well-doings; see also antisemitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson’s book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
That’s how they’re signalling this.
>8 Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as “at the same time too strong and too weak”. On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
And part of that signalling means to imply this is being forced on people, as they constantly claim.
>13 “Selective populism” – the people, conceived monolithically, have a common will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of “no longer represent[ing] the voice of the people”.
N-VA claims to speak for all people, but they do not. Systems where “the state” equates itself to “the people” is a signifier of fascism. They also constantly attack “activist institutions” like Unia and “activist judges”.
These are all signifiers of fascism.
And even 1 signifier is enough to be wary.
In haar ondertussen gekende stijl doet ze er nog een schep bovenop: [https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2023/03/16/reactie-nabilla-ait-daoud/](https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2023/03/16/reactie-nabilla-ait-daoud/)
Juist, het was gevaarlijke cancelcultuur om moderne portretten in dialoog te laten gaan met oude schilderijen. Dankuwel om ons daarvan te behoeden, mevrouw de schepen!
Ze zijn echt succesvol de cultuuroorlog uit de USA aan het importeren. Als transvrouw maakt mij dat waanzinnig bang want hoe ver gaan ze gaan met hun import, als je de recente anti-trans kruistocht bij de republikeinen ziet.
When you’ve got nothing to show so you resort to culture war nonsense to get your name in the news.
I love Antwerp but oh my fucking God I hate our politicians
So politicians decide acceptable culture now ?
Of zoals ze hier zeggen, een nabilla’ke doen.
_Why_ can’t we change the paintings? They weren’t materialized to only hang there. Have them rotate a set of different paintings, different things, every month, or seasonally? Why does this need to be about “woke” and “cancel culture”, wtf are these arguments?
> “We zijn weer bezig met de cancelcultuur”, Luc Lemmens (N-VA) verklaart waarom de werken weg moeten
Let’s cancel this change! – Luc Lemmens
Uh wait? Are we the cancel culture? Are we kneejerk reacting?
> Woke wilt geschiedenis wissen
Refuses to show anything other than specific set of paintings instead. It screams “I like the status quo because it represents me, so don’t you dare change it”.
It’s not “woke” to get tired of how the design of something looks or want to modernize something. I enjoy classical art, but tbh it can really date an environment and make buildings look boujie. I’d expect any city (other than Bruges which prides itself on how dated it looks) would rather show they aren’t stuck in an era.
Worst of all is, they are literally arguing about _paintings_ on a wall most of us never really care about. The hell, you guys have nothing more important to do in Antwerp than to play interior design specialist? I mean we can get rid of a few of you then if that’s your daily concern..
Er heeft iemand een carrièrreswitch naar binnenhuisarchitect nodig.
that’s another ‘yikes’ from me guys.
Elk artikel tegenwoordig bevat het woord woke of cancelcultuur. Soms heb ik toch heimwee naar de dagen dat de massa deze woorden nog niet kende
Who is this person, Woke?
Whenever there are stories like this, I wonder what other ‘real’ story there is they are trying to distract from/don’t want the general public to know about/linger on.
In case anyone was curious, the N-Va dude behind all this is Luk Lemmens, who used to organise the IJzerwake (you know, the nazi-version of the IJzerbedevaart).
Nogmaals bewezen dat de N-VA het tolerantievermogen van een kleuter hebben.
Does this Daoud figure have zero self respect?
It seems very obvious that she’s just there so the NVA can push through their right wing extremist culture policies, and she’s just there so the NVA can say “look, look, she’s not white, you can’t call us racist anymore, nananananana!!!!”.
cANceL CuLTurE!11!!!!1!
Antwerps stadsbestuur verplicht Arenberg om multiculturele foto’s ergens anders in Arenberg op te hangen was een iets minder pakkende headline zeker?
De N-VA is zonder mensen of groepen gevallen om als schuldige aan te wijzen voor alles wat verkeerd loopt. Dus dan hebben ze het imaginair “woke” troetelbeertje maar uitgevonden die de schuld moet dragen van alles wat verkeerd loopt!
Foei, woke troetelbeer! Hoe durf je stoffige schilderijen waar niemand om geeft te vervangen door modernere foto’s met een boodschap!