Poland has a lower gdp per capita than all three of those countries, so it makes sense, and the cost of living is less in Poland compared to those 3.
No offence, but it can be surprising only to someone who doesn’t follow any economical data whatsoever and who automatically assumes that Poland must be ahead of all countries in the region around BECAUSE HELLO WE’RE POLAND?!?:!??;
What exactly is surprising for you here?
I’m only surprised about Lithuania tbh
Not very surprising at all, Poland is still pretty far behind most EU countries
In Lower Silesia, I know that a lot of people go to Czechia for work and Czechs go to Poland for cheaper groceries/other goods
that will be after tax and all the national insurance stuff. Leaving you around 2500 pln, from my observations I spend on average 850 pln monthly on food, 1250 room rent with bills. 80 phone contract (just the contract, the phone is fully mine). Those are the basics, vodka and coke in a club costs 20pln, entry to a club on average costs 30pln, one liter of petrol costs around 8 pln. Overall I earn 4100 a month and I don’t know how people survive on the minimum wage. If I don’t go out partying ( costs around 200pln / night) then maybe I’ll save 500pln at the end of the month.
No? The map is wrong, Poland is almost 200$ more than it shows.
I love how a random post on r/Poland can show that America is in fact NOT a 3rd world country.
Pointless graphic since it does not provide an easy way of comparing cost of living across countries. This graphic could be better improved by factoring in a cost of living adjustment or, better yet, using hours spent working for a common basket of everyday goods.
Make these numbers show minimum vs cost of life living, it’ll be alot more favorable.
You are better off being unemployed then make minimum wage it’s sad.
The value of $584 is so wrong…
I work in HR and there is one thing I learnt not to do – never use the salary net value, unless you have it already calculated in defined circumstances.
While there is only one gross minimum wage, there are at least 12 different net minimum wages depending on combination of following:
– Employee has or has not resigned from employee capital plan (PPK)
– employee has decided or not to use their tax relief
– employee has standard or increased cost of earning an income
– employee is under 26 y.o. or is a working senior or is a member of “4+ family”.
The minimum net salary can be anywhere between $528 to $622 for the same gross salary.
Surprised AU/NZ are so high. Cost of living is higher than Poland but not that different to other EU countries except for housing.
And no one on minimum wage is buying a house (fairly sure the rental jumps in AU are recent in terms of how fast the government would respond with changes to minimum wage).
It’s changing now but I used to basically figure anything made “in country” for PL/AU was often going to have the same “number” price (i.e. if it was 20zl in PL it would be about $20 in AU) just there were about 3zl to the AU$. Even on that score AU/NZ minimum wage is significantly higher.
Zaraza
Did you know Switzerland had no minimum wage at all?
Economy should dictate the minimum wage, not what politics think those should be. Raising them too much is hurting the development and employment rate… and it’s happening often just before elections.
Also, did you know mandatory social insurance rate for self-employed is correlated with minimum wage in Poland? So they pay more when minimum wage is raised. And self-employed often work their whole life and they don’t use national health care at all.
Government should create good conditions for the wages to grow instead of demanding higher pay from business owners when their business is not growing at all.
Time to get some bane of arthropods sword and move to ‘Straya
Now you know that thing that so called “ecperts” say is bullshit. They said that rising minimum wage is radical move, that this will be disaster for polish economy and people become unemployed. In reality we just had radicaly low minimum wage before.
So it only shows that you’re an uneducated person? Seriously I don’t get why so many Polish people have this weird superiority complex towards smaller nations in eastern Europe, even though they’re often more developed than Poland itself.
What’s next, Poles surprised that average salary in Switzerland is higher than in Poland?
You should compare purchase power instead of nominal values.
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Sounds about right.
Poland has a lower gdp per capita than all three of those countries, so it makes sense, and the cost of living is less in Poland compared to those 3.
No offence, but it can be surprising only to someone who doesn’t follow any economical data whatsoever and who automatically assumes that Poland must be ahead of all countries in the region around BECAUSE HELLO WE’RE POLAND?!?:!??;
What exactly is surprising for you here?
I’m only surprised about Lithuania tbh
Not very surprising at all, Poland is still pretty far behind most EU countries
In Lower Silesia, I know that a lot of people go to Czechia for work and Czechs go to Poland for cheaper groceries/other goods
that will be after tax and all the national insurance stuff. Leaving you around 2500 pln, from my observations I spend on average 850 pln monthly on food, 1250 room rent with bills. 80 phone contract (just the contract, the phone is fully mine). Those are the basics, vodka and coke in a club costs 20pln, entry to a club on average costs 30pln, one liter of petrol costs around 8 pln. Overall I earn 4100 a month and I don’t know how people survive on the minimum wage. If I don’t go out partying ( costs around 200pln / night) then maybe I’ll save 500pln at the end of the month.
No? The map is wrong, Poland is almost 200$ more than it shows.
I love how a random post on r/Poland can show that America is in fact NOT a 3rd world country.
Pointless graphic since it does not provide an easy way of comparing cost of living across countries. This graphic could be better improved by factoring in a cost of living adjustment or, better yet, using hours spent working for a common basket of everyday goods.
Make these numbers show minimum vs cost of life living, it’ll be alot more favorable.
You are better off being unemployed then make minimum wage it’s sad.
The value of $584 is so wrong…
I work in HR and there is one thing I learnt not to do – never use the salary net value, unless you have it already calculated in defined circumstances.
While there is only one gross minimum wage, there are at least 12 different net minimum wages depending on combination of following:
– Employee has or has not resigned from employee capital plan (PPK)
– employee has decided or not to use their tax relief
– employee has standard or increased cost of earning an income
– employee is under 26 y.o. or is a working senior or is a member of “4+ family”.
The minimum net salary can be anywhere between $528 to $622 for the same gross salary.
Surprised AU/NZ are so high. Cost of living is higher than Poland but not that different to other EU countries except for housing.
And no one on minimum wage is buying a house (fairly sure the rental jumps in AU are recent in terms of how fast the government would respond with changes to minimum wage).
It’s changing now but I used to basically figure anything made “in country” for PL/AU was often going to have the same “number” price (i.e. if it was 20zl in PL it would be about $20 in AU) just there were about 3zl to the AU$. Even on that score AU/NZ minimum wage is significantly higher.
Zaraza
Did you know Switzerland had no minimum wage at all?
Economy should dictate the minimum wage, not what politics think those should be. Raising them too much is hurting the development and employment rate… and it’s happening often just before elections.
Also, did you know mandatory social insurance rate for self-employed is correlated with minimum wage in Poland? So they pay more when minimum wage is raised. And self-employed often work their whole life and they don’t use national health care at all.
Government should create good conditions for the wages to grow instead of demanding higher pay from business owners when their business is not growing at all.
Time to get some bane of arthropods sword and move to ‘Straya
Now you know that thing that so called “ecperts” say is bullshit. They said that rising minimum wage is radical move, that this will be disaster for polish economy and people become unemployed. In reality we just had radicaly low minimum wage before.
So it only shows that you’re an uneducated person? Seriously I don’t get why so many Polish people have this weird superiority complex towards smaller nations in eastern Europe, even though they’re often more developed than Poland itself.
What’s next, Poles surprised that average salary in Switzerland is higher than in Poland?
You should compare purchase power instead of nominal values.
https://preview.redd.it/76dt1rlnvroa1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=29ff3bf8e976641d7e3c304c22fd710b23eed7fd
Wage PPP seems better