Before clicking on this, I thought it was a stack of pallets in the north
Worked great for Ballymun after all.
If we could get a few 10 stores buildings even would be a help
If that was in Dublin, it would be a piss drenched hellhole. Home of the Canada Goose mafia.
Ballymun 2.0?
The council would have a stroke when they see the planning application.
If the children’s hospital is anything to go by, this will take 100 years and cost €1000,000,000,000,000
Work, or at least my company’s office is based, in the docklands. It is completely ridiculous how much space has been wasted down there. The docklands should have been zoned to be at least 6 storeys right up close to town rising to a minimum of 10 to 14 by the time you reach the point depending on proximity to east wall and already existing residential developments. Any building over 10 should incorporate mixed use, so shops/restaurants first 2 or 3 storeys, then offices, then apartments. All apartments should be long term let, minimum 2 yrs and a range of sizes up to 4 beds for families with Airbnb completely banned.
I like the idea of these being built in the city centre on a somewhat smaller scale, but it wouldn’t be utopia. The council and planning would say all the right things. That residents would be well integrated, that there would be measures in place etc I think I read DCC hasn’t evicted a tenant in years. I struggle to believe that all DCC tenants are angels only next to God in their behaviour. It would quickly descend into hell.
It would take contractors in Ireland about 5-10 years minimum to build something like this.
By then the housing crisis will have turned Dublin into a post apocalyptic irish version of Mad Max.
NY projects vibe ..
It would be like the carter in new jack city in no time
we already have planning approved for medium to high rise apartment buildings. One of the problems with getting them to site is there Are very few people who want to risk funding these projects. Building is an extremely risky business and building high rise buildings adds even more risk. It’s like putting all you eggs in one very fragile basket.
It seems like the best solution to the current supply problems is high density low to medium rise. They can be constructed very quickly. easier To find funding. Don’t rely on much maintenance of passive systems. Great for infill/brown field sites in our cities. Uses the existing construction techniques, so we don’t need to retrain our labour or wait for specialist suppliers to come online. it’s also cheaper per unit that high rise. the Public services around these developments don’t need a complete redesign.
And where are the dealers going to park their BMWs?
But but but, think of the overlooked houses and the GP is already not taking on new patients. We’ve always had about 5 people per street in this country and by god we’re gonna keep it that way no matter what
This building appears to be about 40 stories tall.
I believe that the Russians decided to build something like this when they had a housing crisis in the 60’s.
They had laws that buildings above five stories needed an elevator and stuff, so they found that the sweet spot was either 5 stories or 9 – 12 stories.
>64,000 units (3,000,000 m2 or 32,000,000 sq ft) of [this type](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchevka) were built in Moscow from 1961 to 1968. The khrushchevkas were cheap, and sometimes an entire building could be constructed within two weeks.
It sounds like slums, but with gentrification now some of these apartments are considered high end because of their central location, easy access to public transport and nice view of a shared green space.
.
But once you go above 20 stories it starts to get less economical since the more percentage of the building you have to dedicate to elevators and facilities and such.
I remember reading that they would have more usable floor space if they knocked down the Burj Khalifa and replaced it with 20 story office/apartment blocks.
Bliss. I can smell the piss and hear the crying babies from here.
Live? That’s not living
Build in near the airport and call it Ballymun ?
Prime spots in the South dublin Georgian district.
2000ad
Isn’t there a height limit in buildings in Dublin especially in the city centre? Usually I don’t like high rise buildings but this one looks nice
Russians call these buildings ‘human anthills’. Always thought that was cool. Seems too dystopian to me.
Think they had a few in Ballymun, probably not the best idea for the Irish.
When I see this, I can understand how in films the zombie apocalypse could happen.
Ah crap I left my key in the front door
Megacity Block
Vancouverize Dublin
There are loads of things which the gov can do just with policy that would improve things dramatically. I’ll go on forever about this but FG and FF really have stuck to their guns that the market will fix everything but at the moment the entire issue here is either over regulation or under intervention from the gov.
Overregulation is stuff like the DCC imposing their own specific rules for planning in Dublin, NIMBYs only have a certain amount of power but you see fucking massive apartment blocks popping up literally everywhere around the country but the city centre is a hellscape. It has terrible roads, they refuse to allow redevelopment of expensive areas because of “historical significance” or “not ruining the skyline”. It’s bullshit and the Dail should have stepped in and addressed ABP and the local councils directly given it’s a housing emergency and changed the situation.
If I did a terrible job like the DCC I’d be fired, the only reason why they are getting away with it is purely because there is no accountability.
No, no, no… Traditional skyline.
Just bleedin 1.. thats all we need and were sorted…
How lovely 🫣
I always think apartments is where the class divide in Ireland really starts to show itself, in many ways Ireland doesn’t currently have as a bad a class divide as other places. But a lot of older generations really look down on those who live in apartments in Ireland. It is sheer snobbery with some good old fashioned concern about the ‘community’. Our politicians more or less do what a lot of people want in some policy areas. The failure to show leadership on building height will plague our cities for generations.
Yes, let’s copy the Soviet Union and build these.
Fancy if you live on the top floor and the lift stops working…
I expect to see judge Dredd on patrol
Sure, but knowing dcc this building would be pushed out to the suburbs and the 30,000 have to share one bus route to town.
Won’t somebody think of the skyline /s
Ireland needs to start building upwards. It’s the only way for this country to get out of the housing crisis. No more senseless and endless estates. No more semi-detached 4-bed houses nobody needs. No more expensive properties nobody has the money for anymore.
We need to start building apartments across the country for young people, couples, students, young families, elderly, working class. The world has figured this out a long time ago!
Giving people their own space to live and create life should be paramount. If you don’t have a comfortable place you can call home then the whole economy is affected.
How is this better than Cabrini-Green or Brewster-Douglass?
Ah yes a lovely block of thousands of un-interesting and un-unique apartments to fill up with working class people to make their lives even more boring and depressing
Too many junkies and scrotes to ruin it.
The smell of piss in that thing would knock you out!
“But its too tall, cultural heritage, some other bollocks”- Dublin City Council 2023.
“You’re not bringing that horse up in the lift, are you?”
“I have to, sure the stairs would kill him.”
If something like that was to be built in Dublin it would take the better part of 20 years and cost at least 5 billion euro.
Instant slum
News:
Trafic grinds to a halt in front of the new slum*cofcof*megabuilding in Dublin.
The concentration of 30k cars emerging from a single point stopped 1/3 of the Irish capital.
Plans to pave over the cars are under way. Evacuation of the stranded drivers is being discussed, however likely to be blocked by FF.
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Not in my back yard you won’t!
Judge Dredd vibes
Before clicking on this, I thought it was a stack of pallets in the north
Worked great for Ballymun after all.
If we could get a few 10 stores buildings even would be a help
If that was in Dublin, it would be a piss drenched hellhole. Home of the Canada Goose mafia.
Ballymun 2.0?
The council would have a stroke when they see the planning application.
If the children’s hospital is anything to go by, this will take 100 years and cost €1000,000,000,000,000
Work, or at least my company’s office is based, in the docklands. It is completely ridiculous how much space has been wasted down there. The docklands should have been zoned to be at least 6 storeys right up close to town rising to a minimum of 10 to 14 by the time you reach the point depending on proximity to east wall and already existing residential developments. Any building over 10 should incorporate mixed use, so shops/restaurants first 2 or 3 storeys, then offices, then apartments. All apartments should be long term let, minimum 2 yrs and a range of sizes up to 4 beds for families with Airbnb completely banned.
I like the idea of these being built in the city centre on a somewhat smaller scale, but it wouldn’t be utopia. The council and planning would say all the right things. That residents would be well integrated, that there would be measures in place etc I think I read DCC hasn’t evicted a tenant in years. I struggle to believe that all DCC tenants are angels only next to God in their behaviour. It would quickly descend into hell.
It would take contractors in Ireland about 5-10 years minimum to build something like this.
By then the housing crisis will have turned Dublin into a post apocalyptic irish version of Mad Max.
NY projects vibe ..
It would be like the carter in new jack city in no time
we already have planning approved for medium to high rise apartment buildings. One of the problems with getting them to site is there Are very few people who want to risk funding these projects. Building is an extremely risky business and building high rise buildings adds even more risk. It’s like putting all you eggs in one very fragile basket.
It seems like the best solution to the current supply problems is high density low to medium rise. They can be constructed very quickly. easier To find funding. Don’t rely on much maintenance of passive systems. Great for infill/brown field sites in our cities. Uses the existing construction techniques, so we don’t need to retrain our labour or wait for specialist suppliers to come online. it’s also cheaper per unit that high rise. the Public services around these developments don’t need a complete redesign.
Tour of Russian apartment block with 10k+ living there
https://youtu.be/n-TwGOTCM9c
And where are the dealers going to park their BMWs?
But but but, think of the overlooked houses and the GP is already not taking on new patients. We’ve always had about 5 people per street in this country and by god we’re gonna keep it that way no matter what
This building appears to be about 40 stories tall.
I believe that the Russians decided to build something like this when they had a housing crisis in the 60’s.
They had laws that buildings above five stories needed an elevator and stuff, so they found that the sweet spot was either 5 stories or 9 – 12 stories.
>64,000 units (3,000,000 m2 or 32,000,000 sq ft) of [this type](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchevka) were built in Moscow from 1961 to 1968. The khrushchevkas were cheap, and sometimes an entire building could be constructed within two weeks.
It sounds like slums, but with gentrification now some of these apartments are considered high end because of their central location, easy access to public transport and nice view of a shared green space.
.
But once you go above 20 stories it starts to get less economical since the more percentage of the building you have to dedicate to elevators and facilities and such.
I remember reading that they would have more usable floor space if they knocked down the Burj Khalifa and replaced it with 20 story office/apartment blocks.
Bliss. I can smell the piss and hear the crying babies from here.
Live? That’s not living
Build in near the airport and call it Ballymun ?
Prime spots in the South dublin Georgian district.
2000ad
Isn’t there a height limit in buildings in Dublin especially in the city centre? Usually I don’t like high rise buildings but this one looks nice
Russians call these buildings ‘human anthills’. Always thought that was cool. Seems too dystopian to me.
Think they had a few in Ballymun, probably not the best idea for the Irish.
When I see this, I can understand how in films the zombie apocalypse could happen.
Ah crap I left my key in the front door
Megacity Block
Vancouverize Dublin
There are loads of things which the gov can do just with policy that would improve things dramatically. I’ll go on forever about this but FG and FF really have stuck to their guns that the market will fix everything but at the moment the entire issue here is either over regulation or under intervention from the gov.
Overregulation is stuff like the DCC imposing their own specific rules for planning in Dublin, NIMBYs only have a certain amount of power but you see fucking massive apartment blocks popping up literally everywhere around the country but the city centre is a hellscape. It has terrible roads, they refuse to allow redevelopment of expensive areas because of “historical significance” or “not ruining the skyline”. It’s bullshit and the Dail should have stepped in and addressed ABP and the local councils directly given it’s a housing emergency and changed the situation.
If I did a terrible job like the DCC I’d be fired, the only reason why they are getting away with it is purely because there is no accountability.
No, no, no… Traditional skyline.
Just bleedin 1.. thats all we need and were sorted…
How lovely 🫣
I always think apartments is where the class divide in Ireland really starts to show itself, in many ways Ireland doesn’t currently have as a bad a class divide as other places. But a lot of older generations really look down on those who live in apartments in Ireland. It is sheer snobbery with some good old fashioned concern about the ‘community’. Our politicians more or less do what a lot of people want in some policy areas. The failure to show leadership on building height will plague our cities for generations.
Yes, let’s copy the Soviet Union and build these.
Fancy if you live on the top floor and the lift stops working…
I expect to see judge Dredd on patrol
Sure, but knowing dcc this building would be pushed out to the suburbs and the 30,000 have to share one bus route to town.
Won’t somebody think of the skyline /s
Ireland needs to start building upwards. It’s the only way for this country to get out of the housing crisis. No more senseless and endless estates. No more semi-detached 4-bed houses nobody needs. No more expensive properties nobody has the money for anymore.
We need to start building apartments across the country for young people, couples, students, young families, elderly, working class. The world has figured this out a long time ago!
Giving people their own space to live and create life should be paramount. If you don’t have a comfortable place you can call home then the whole economy is affected.
How is this better than Cabrini-Green or Brewster-Douglass?
Ah yes a lovely block of thousands of un-interesting and un-unique apartments to fill up with working class people to make their lives even more boring and depressing
Too many junkies and scrotes to ruin it.
The smell of piss in that thing would knock you out!
“But its too tall, cultural heritage, some other bollocks”- Dublin City Council 2023.
“You’re not bringing that horse up in the lift, are you?”
“I have to, sure the stairs would kill him.”
If something like that was to be built in Dublin it would take the better part of 20 years and cost at least 5 billion euro.
Instant slum
News:
Trafic grinds to a halt in front of the new slum*cofcof*megabuilding in Dublin.
The concentration of 30k cars emerging from a single point stopped 1/3 of the Irish capital.
Plans to pave over the cars are under way. Evacuation of the stranded drivers is being discussed, however likely to be blocked by FF.