***From The Telegraph’s Steve Bird and Ewan Somerville:***
Sadiq Khan and Transport for London (TfL) were repeatedly warned that the majority of cyclists refuse to stop or slow down at zebra crossings, The Telegraph can reveal.
Independent researchers working for the London mayor’s transport authority revealed how as few as 31 per cent of cyclists obeyed the Highway Code by giving way to pedestrians at a zebra crossing. But, 62 per cent of pedestrians who had the right of way let cyclists pass.
The analysts even recommended “some form of awareness campaign to highlight the requirement for cyclists to stop at zebra crossings” because so few did.
But, despite their three reports highlighting potential “conflict” between pedestrians and cyclists the mayor has approved yet more such bus stops.
> But, 62 per cent of pedestrians who had the right of way let cyclists pass.
Not exactly surprising. Not wanting to be hit by some impatient twats who don’t respect the highway code will do that for you.
As a pedestrian, I’ve found that lots of cyclists (delivery cyclists and e-scooters especially) will simply go wherever they want, whenever they want, however they want, regardless of traffic lights, road signs, bike lanes, pavements, pedestrians, whatever. Had quite a few near misses, though thankfully no actual collisions yet.
Motorists are largely predictable, cyclists and e-scooters largely are not. If i see a car approaching a pelican crossing showing red lights for them, I can count on them to stop and let me cross. I can’t say the same for cyclists and e-scooters.
One of the things about cyclists and e-scooters is that it’s pretty much impossible to enforce laws of the road against them unless you literally have police on every street corner. And if laws aren’t enforced, they aren’t followed.
I have one of these outside the office where I work. In the 5 years since it was installed, I have seen one cyclist stop at the crossing.
Sometimes the cyclists ring their bells (which is appreciated as a warning, but less so than if they were to stop like they are supposed to).
The rest of the time the cyclists just keep going and don’t do anything to change their speed or to acknowledge the pedestrians’ right of way.
Cyclists and a massive sense of entitlement.
Name a more iconic duo ;P
So cyclists want to be treated like motorists but don’t want to abide by the highway code ?
I’m not a fan of floating stops they’re especially bad for visually impaired users, but if we are going to build them: add in some zebra markings across the bike path. You can’t change cycling behaviour by complaining at them, but by designing the roadways appropriately.
If you had a bus stop floating between two car lanes there would 100% be a zebra, otherwise cars would not give way just as cyclists wouldn’t.
Don’t forget that cyclists aren’t some weird sect, 83% of cyclists also drive. 100% of cyclists are also pedestrians. They act as their environment dictates. Just like any other human using any other transit mode.
What the hell is a ‘floating bus stop’? Please kindly help out a non-Londoner.
A cunt is a cunt irrespective of whether they are driving, cycling or a pedestrian.
I get the fundamental premise of a floating bus stop but the design means that you have to play nicely with others.
Obviously some people lack the ability to play nicely with others, because they’re way too primitive.
I do wonder if this is a deliberate attempt to sway public opinion against cyclists (not been near a bike in years)
Cyclist better watch they don’t ignore zebra crossing, kill ped, go to jail for manslaughter then.
I live in the Netherlands and can tell you cyclists here ignore zebra crossings all the time. I’d be surprised if more than 1 in 5 actually bother stopping. The floating bus stops still work fine though.
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***From The Telegraph’s Steve Bird and Ewan Somerville:***
Sadiq Khan and Transport for London (TfL) were repeatedly warned that the majority of cyclists refuse to stop or slow down at zebra crossings, The Telegraph can reveal.
Independent researchers working for the London mayor’s transport authority revealed how as few as 31 per cent of cyclists obeyed the Highway Code by giving way to pedestrians at a zebra crossing. But, 62 per cent of pedestrians who had the right of way let cyclists pass.
The analysts even recommended “some form of awareness campaign to highlight the requirement for cyclists to stop at zebra crossings” because so few did.
But, despite their three reports highlighting potential “conflict” between pedestrians and cyclists the mayor has approved yet more such bus stops.
**Read this exclusive in full:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/18/sadiq-khan-approves-floating-bus-stops-london-despite-risk-warnings/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/18/sadiq-khan-approves-floating-bus-stops-london-despite-risk-warnings/)
> But, 62 per cent of pedestrians who had the right of way let cyclists pass.
Not exactly surprising. Not wanting to be hit by some impatient twats who don’t respect the highway code will do that for you.
As a pedestrian, I’ve found that lots of cyclists (delivery cyclists and e-scooters especially) will simply go wherever they want, whenever they want, however they want, regardless of traffic lights, road signs, bike lanes, pavements, pedestrians, whatever. Had quite a few near misses, though thankfully no actual collisions yet.
Motorists are largely predictable, cyclists and e-scooters largely are not. If i see a car approaching a pelican crossing showing red lights for them, I can count on them to stop and let me cross. I can’t say the same for cyclists and e-scooters.
One of the things about cyclists and e-scooters is that it’s pretty much impossible to enforce laws of the road against them unless you literally have police on every street corner. And if laws aren’t enforced, they aren’t followed.
I have one of these outside the office where I work. In the 5 years since it was installed, I have seen one cyclist stop at the crossing.
Sometimes the cyclists ring their bells (which is appreciated as a warning, but less so than if they were to stop like they are supposed to).
The rest of the time the cyclists just keep going and don’t do anything to change their speed or to acknowledge the pedestrians’ right of way.
Cyclists and a massive sense of entitlement.
Name a more iconic duo ;P
So cyclists want to be treated like motorists but don’t want to abide by the highway code ?
I’m not a fan of floating stops they’re especially bad for visually impaired users, but if we are going to build them: add in some zebra markings across the bike path. You can’t change cycling behaviour by complaining at them, but by designing the roadways appropriately.
If you had a bus stop floating between two car lanes there would 100% be a zebra, otherwise cars would not give way just as cyclists wouldn’t.
Don’t forget that cyclists aren’t some weird sect, 83% of cyclists also drive. 100% of cyclists are also pedestrians. They act as their environment dictates. Just like any other human using any other transit mode.
What the hell is a ‘floating bus stop’? Please kindly help out a non-Londoner.
A cunt is a cunt irrespective of whether they are driving, cycling or a pedestrian.
I get the fundamental premise of a floating bus stop but the design means that you have to play nicely with others.
Obviously some people lack the ability to play nicely with others, because they’re way too primitive.
I do wonder if this is a deliberate attempt to sway public opinion against cyclists (not been near a bike in years)
Cyclist better watch they don’t ignore zebra crossing, kill ped, go to jail for manslaughter then.
I live in the Netherlands and can tell you cyclists here ignore zebra crossings all the time. I’d be surprised if more than 1 in 5 actually bother stopping. The floating bus stops still work fine though.