Exempting international rail tickets from VAT would create a more equal level playing field with flight tickets
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The only way for this to succeed is for “cheaper” to mean “Ryanair cheap”.
There really is no other way – international travel has become something available for everyone for a very small price since cheap airliners appeared, and there’s no going back.
For trains to replace them, they have to be equally cheap.
It seems that everybody wants to travel more and cheaper. How is that going to stop climate change?
I think a bigger problem is how much it sucks to book international rail travel. By air, I am 100% confident I can get to any country in the EU by visiting one website, and making one purchase. Off the top of my head I am only really confident that I can get to Belgium, parts of France, and parts of Germany by rail using only one website and making one purchase.
People don’t even think of using rail because it’s not convenient, in addition to being slower and not cheaper.
Consensus
I was reading about England’s HS2 and the article stated that the Trains would have a Top speed of 225Kmh ,trains were manufactured by Hitachi & some French company. .
I would use the trains in my country far more often if a 250km trip wouldn’t take 5h and cost 25 euros(that’s a lot, for me at least).
Last time i travelled by train i decided, fuck it, i’m going first class, never did it before and at least i would be comfortable for my 5h trip. Turns out i paid almost twice the money only to sit in the same cramped seat but hey, it was a different color than the rest. So that was 100% worth it.
My disdain for CFR is indescribable.
I wonder if they can sort out Eurostar. You have to go through the same nonsense with security and baggage check-in(!) as you do with a flight, on top of the fact that it’s expensive as they have a monopoly on passenger trains using the Channel Tunnel. It often works out cheaper, quicker and more convenient to fly, or even to drive and take Eurotunnel or a ferry.
A couple of colleagues at my old workplace in Cambridge commuted in once a month from Paris and Ghent respectively. Even though the train would have been a much simpler journey for them, they always drove as it was much cheaper.
What a novel idea. Next you are going to tell me that the trains will follow the schedule.
We need EU wide hyper loops system. It would be bonkers expensive but damn it would be cool.
If we get a greenhouse gas tax I think trains would be cheaper.
Or maybe innovation would happen in electric alternatives to trains.
kind of doubt that. Spending 10 our on the train is not something I would want.
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Exempting international rail tickets from VAT would create a more equal level playing field with flight tickets
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The only way for this to succeed is for “cheaper” to mean “Ryanair cheap”.
There really is no other way – international travel has become something available for everyone for a very small price since cheap airliners appeared, and there’s no going back.
For trains to replace them, they have to be equally cheap.
It seems that everybody wants to travel more and cheaper. How is that going to stop climate change?
I think a bigger problem is how much it sucks to book international rail travel. By air, I am 100% confident I can get to any country in the EU by visiting one website, and making one purchase. Off the top of my head I am only really confident that I can get to Belgium, parts of France, and parts of Germany by rail using only one website and making one purchase.
People don’t even think of using rail because it’s not convenient, in addition to being slower and not cheaper.
Consensus
I was reading about England’s HS2 and the article stated that the Trains would have a Top speed of 225Kmh ,trains were manufactured by Hitachi & some French company. .
I would use the trains in my country far more often if a 250km trip wouldn’t take 5h and cost 25 euros(that’s a lot, for me at least).
Last time i travelled by train i decided, fuck it, i’m going first class, never did it before and at least i would be comfortable for my 5h trip. Turns out i paid almost twice the money only to sit in the same cramped seat but hey, it was a different color than the rest. So that was 100% worth it.
My disdain for CFR is indescribable.
I wonder if they can sort out Eurostar. You have to go through the same nonsense with security and baggage check-in(!) as you do with a flight, on top of the fact that it’s expensive as they have a monopoly on passenger trains using the Channel Tunnel. It often works out cheaper, quicker and more convenient to fly, or even to drive and take Eurotunnel or a ferry.
A couple of colleagues at my old workplace in Cambridge commuted in once a month from Paris and Ghent respectively. Even though the train would have been a much simpler journey for them, they always drove as it was much cheaper.
What a novel idea. Next you are going to tell me that the trains will follow the schedule.
We need EU wide hyper loops system. It would be bonkers expensive but damn it would be cool.
If we get a greenhouse gas tax I think trains would be cheaper.
Or maybe innovation would happen in electric alternatives to trains.
kind of doubt that. Spending 10 our on the train is not something I would want.