An extra million every 4 years doesn’t seen very sustainable to me.
A million new people every four years, so every issue is a constantly moving goal post. Solve housing issues? Sorry there’s several million more people that need housing, pave over the countryside some more. Build new hospitals? They’re overcrowded again. Our population should not be exponentially increasing like it is, the fertility rate is 1.75 births per woman.
>Businesses have suggested a more relaxed approach to migration would help ~~boost growth~~boost profits, with ~~staff shortages~~ people not willing to work for shit wages weighing heavily on many firms.
That’s what we need – downward pressure on wages, after all higher wages are inflationary, but higher profits, bonuses and dividends are not, – more competition for housing, longer waitlist to see a doctor and so on and so on…
This will only benefit corporations who need people to do the work for as little as possible. If government built labour camps for immigrants, they would probably be all clapping.
Excluding more than 600.000 international students, right?
Remember when right wingers said brexit would solve both immigration numbers AND low wages. Then we had record immigration and asylum numbers AND the government telling us strikes are bad and we can’t afford pay increases
So is it going to half from current numbers, or are more people going to start leaving?
That’s what happens when you blow up innocent people all over the world with the usa and then cry when a few of them get into your country.
You deserve it.
Target here in Canada is 500,000 a year, and our population is half the UK
The bulk of migrants to the country are students which given they very much do pay to be here is a net benefit to the country and economy. Not many people are aware of the fact that students are counted in the migrant figures but it’s worth understanding. Not least in case people think it’s just low paid people coming to nick jobs.
Funny why its ok for hundreds of thousands annually to come to a small island, but its outrageous to state that if the UK is so great, we should be looking to take land from dictators where people are forced to flee from and westernise those regions knowing that there is already great demand and acceptance of the way we have developed our society.
Imagine if we worked to build a UK in Afghanistan. Tons of jobs would have been created, we could have accepted migrants easily, people wouldnt have to drown on boats or pay criminal gangs for those boat rides, girls could go to school, women could work in positions of power, and most importantly there would have been a realistic chance of eradicating terrorists in the region.
As an migrant myself, I’m ok with immigration. I’m not ok with the UK being happy with large parts of the earths land being held by dicators and terrorists who abuse people and force them to overcrowd other parts of the world.
Why is there a picture of a boarder force vessel along with this headline? The 245k figure relates to net migration. That is people moving to the UK via visas for work or otherwise, less those leaving the UK to live in another country. The vast majority of these 245k would arrive by plane, car, ferry or Eurostar just as you would to come back from holiday and are travelling with their passport and documentation to allow their stay in the UK.
The use of this image is a deliberate attempt to try and make the average reader think this is some way linked to people travelling to the UK to seek refuge from their own country, a journey that is not illegal as a refugee. The number of refugees granted asylum is far lower than this figure, I believe around the c40k mark for the last year – I don’t have the stats there so don’t quote me on that.
If you are concerned about the overall net migration figure, this is not the same as the scapegoating and dangerous language political and journalist figures are attributing to people seeking asylum and arriving by boats. Those who may be assisted (hopefully) by such boarder force vessels.
TL:DR, photo is furthering dangerous demonisation of desperate refugees arriving by boat, on an article that may as well show a British airways plane landing from the USA at Heathrow.
I see even Reuters confuse refugees with migrants.
How can we ever have a “*proper conversation*” when so many people – from the media to the “saloon bar” – are so happy to mix up migrants, refugees, foreign workers and foreign students?
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An extra million every 4 years doesn’t seen very sustainable to me.
A million new people every four years, so every issue is a constantly moving goal post. Solve housing issues? Sorry there’s several million more people that need housing, pave over the countryside some more. Build new hospitals? They’re overcrowded again. Our population should not be exponentially increasing like it is, the fertility rate is 1.75 births per woman.
>Businesses have suggested a more relaxed approach to migration would help ~~boost growth~~boost profits, with ~~staff shortages~~ people not willing to work for shit wages weighing heavily on many firms.
That’s what we need – downward pressure on wages, after all higher wages are inflationary, but higher profits, bonuses and dividends are not, – more competition for housing, longer waitlist to see a doctor and so on and so on…
This will only benefit corporations who need people to do the work for as little as possible. If government built labour camps for immigrants, they would probably be all clapping.
Excluding more than 600.000 international students, right?
Remember when right wingers said brexit would solve both immigration numbers AND low wages. Then we had record immigration and asylum numbers AND the government telling us strikes are bad and we can’t afford pay increases
So is it going to half from current numbers, or are more people going to start leaving?
That’s what happens when you blow up innocent people all over the world with the usa and then cry when a few of them get into your country.
You deserve it.
Target here in Canada is 500,000 a year, and our population is half the UK
The bulk of migrants to the country are students which given they very much do pay to be here is a net benefit to the country and economy. Not many people are aware of the fact that students are counted in the migrant figures but it’s worth understanding. Not least in case people think it’s just low paid people coming to nick jobs.
Worth a read.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-september-2021/why-do-people-come-to-the-uk-to-study
Funny why its ok for hundreds of thousands annually to come to a small island, but its outrageous to state that if the UK is so great, we should be looking to take land from dictators where people are forced to flee from and westernise those regions knowing that there is already great demand and acceptance of the way we have developed our society.
Imagine if we worked to build a UK in Afghanistan. Tons of jobs would have been created, we could have accepted migrants easily, people wouldnt have to drown on boats or pay criminal gangs for those boat rides, girls could go to school, women could work in positions of power, and most importantly there would have been a realistic chance of eradicating terrorists in the region.
As an migrant myself, I’m ok with immigration. I’m not ok with the UK being happy with large parts of the earths land being held by dicators and terrorists who abuse people and force them to overcrowd other parts of the world.
Why is there a picture of a boarder force vessel along with this headline? The 245k figure relates to net migration. That is people moving to the UK via visas for work or otherwise, less those leaving the UK to live in another country. The vast majority of these 245k would arrive by plane, car, ferry or Eurostar just as you would to come back from holiday and are travelling with their passport and documentation to allow their stay in the UK.
The use of this image is a deliberate attempt to try and make the average reader think this is some way linked to people travelling to the UK to seek refuge from their own country, a journey that is not illegal as a refugee. The number of refugees granted asylum is far lower than this figure, I believe around the c40k mark for the last year – I don’t have the stats there so don’t quote me on that.
If you are concerned about the overall net migration figure, this is not the same as the scapegoating and dangerous language political and journalist figures are attributing to people seeking asylum and arriving by boats. Those who may be assisted (hopefully) by such boarder force vessels.
TL:DR, photo is furthering dangerous demonisation of desperate refugees arriving by boat, on an article that may as well show a British airways plane landing from the USA at Heathrow.
I see even Reuters confuse refugees with migrants.
How can we ever have a “*proper conversation*” when so many people – from the media to the “saloon bar” – are so happy to mix up migrants, refugees, foreign workers and foreign students?