Considering how unprepared we were for covid this isn’t that surprising is it
I feel like we could apply this sentence to many crises.
The housing crisis
Cost of living crisis
Nhs staffing crisis
If its not been labelled as one yet let’s chuck energy and water crisis in there too.
Or we could just drop the end of the sentence and go with ” UK strikingly unprepared” as its pretty accurate.
Honestly very thankful that we haven’t had Germany-style lethal mudslides yet. I looked briefly last year and according to some statistician’s blog which I can’t find now the UK’s hillsides are roughly as denuded of shrubs and trees as theirs.
The issue is short-term sightedness on all aspects.
If it doesn’t bring in money and the low low cost of fuck all investment no one wants to see it.
It’s a train of thought and approach to dealing with things I fucking despise in people.
We’re not even prepared for next week, what hope so we have of preparing for a climate crisis?
What an earth is that stock image? Looks like those houses have been in a fire. Atleast show the classic cooling towers with harmless water vapour pouring out.
Anyway. How exactly does one prepare???
I dont know how it is in other countries but I live in Spain now and you can see the preparations. Green shady spaces being created, pedestrianising whole streets and cycle paths being built.
This is really the bare minimum that should be done but when I visit the UK its like Ive stepped back to the 90’s. They’ve done nothing. Its a crime.
What on earth is this nonsense: we’ve transferred massive amounts of wealth to the rich and they’re better prepared to fuck off somewhere else than ever.
Well, we struggle when we get a little bit of snow on the roads.
Climate crisis will be the latest buzzwords politicians will use to fleece money from us. Standing by for more pointless charges that make zero difference to the climate.
Properly preparing would involve taking the problem seriously. People might start asking why private jets are still legal while we spend billions in public money to protect ourselves from their consequences.
The plan is to do nothing, and then panic and blame everyone else who came before.
Also, if the UK public are suffering enough, they will be easier to convince to hate outsiders. You’re not going to get consent to genocide the global south unless you convince people it’s a necessity. Once people are struggling enough, they’ll support militarised lethal borders and learn to ignore the corpses.
So, according to many models, a good proportion of the South coast is meant to be under water by 2035. That’s only just shy of a decade away.
Yet, despite this, houses right on the coast are still exchanging hands for millions, and there is no sign that the apparent impending doom has had any impact on prices – quite the opposite, actually.
So, either the climate models are junk, and everyone knows they are junk. Or there is a collective delusion taking place.
I really don’t know…
Strangely, the one area the UK is probably getting quite prepared is dealing with the hordes of displaced people that will inevitably want to try and make their way to less impacted places like the UK. I suspect the government’s current approach to asylum policy will look almost utopian compared with what will come in the next few decades – I’m thinking Elysium levels of enforcement.
This isn’t likely to improve either until we get out of the mindset that a bit more renewable energy, small nuclear reactors and heatpumps are what we need. Reducing dependence on fossil fuels should be secondary to the kind of infrastructure that will actually save lives. Wind turbines don’t water crops.
Actually, the UK warming up sounds like something that everyone would support.
The UK isn’t even prepared for an inch of snow… come on!
Maybe it’s time we tackled the actual problem.
Millionaires and billionaires will be the death of millions, the last 30 years has seen them destroy the living standards of almost everyone else.
In the next few decades they will literally be the death of us.
Millionaire spending incompatible with 1.5 °C ambitions
present a model that extrapolates observed growth in millionaire numbers (1990–2020) and associated changes in emissions to 2050. Our findings suggest that the share of US$2020-millionaires in the world population will grow from 0.7% today to 3.3% in 2050, and cause accumulated emissions of 286 Gt CO2. This is equivalent to 72% of the remaining carbon budget, and significantly reduces the chance of stabilizing climate change at 1.5 °C. Continued growth in emissions at the top makes a low-carbon transition less likely, as the acceleration of energy consumption by the wealthiest is likely beyond the system’s capacity to decarbonize. To this end, we question whether policy designs such as progressive taxes targeting the high emitters will be sufficient.
millionaires will, within just a few decades, be responsible for almost three quarters of carbon dioxide emissions
one percent of the world’s total population is responsible for roughly half of all emissions from commercial air travel, the majority of which is associated with premium class air travel for affluent, frequent flyers
In 2010, the most affluent 10% of households emitted 34% of global CO2, while the 50% of the global population in lower income brackets accounted for just 15%. By 2015, the richest 10% were responsible for 49% of emissions against 7% produced by the poorest half of the world’s population.
Some of the world’s richest billionaires each emit about 3 million metric tons of carbon dioxide on average per year, more than 1 million times the amount emitted by 90% of people, according to a new study.
The sample consisted of 125 billionaire with investments in 183 corporations, and who have a combined corporate equity value of $2.4 trillion. About 50 to 70% of their emissions stem from their investments.
Collectively, their annual carbon dioxide emissions total about 393 million metric tons, which is about the same annual carbon footprint of France with its population of 67 million people
We know what the problem is and where it is. When will we actually address that problem?
We can literally name those at fault their numbers are so small on a global level.
Throw in the largest corporate polluters and we can identify and solve 90%+ of the problem
Hi, it’s me your local collapsarian.
This is entirely predictable because the system is designed to ignore anything that might threaten the system, even if that very thing will collapse the system.
My parents said they were looking to buy a house on Romney Marsh 18 months ago and the only thing that has stopped them so far is the interest rates going up. They are true blue Tories and boomers and can see no further than the nose on their face. They are not alone.
By the time they were my age they had lived through one recession, I have already lived through 5 not counting the last 13 years of Tory austerity. They can see no alternative to the status quo even as it destroys the world around them, and they are not alone. They believe that everything they have isn’t due to being born at just the right time but instead is entirely down to them being smarter than everyone else, and the Tories encourage them to believe that. Thus being smarter and believing in the status quo means they must be both right and virtuous in their righteousness, and climate change can only be a conspiracy to take their money and give it to stupider people.
The people who can force change won’t and the people who want change can’t. We’ve already moved from preventing climate change to mitigating it’s “worst” outcomes, and just when did that happen by the way? Still nothing is done, and nothing will be done because the people who could do something don’t want to and they are allowed to do this by people like my parents and by the time they can no longer influence events we will have moved from mitigating it’s worst effects to we can’t do anything now.
The UK has a climate crisis every time a leaf falls on the train tracks. We are strikingly unprepared for everything.
Like every other country on planet Earth then. Nobody is prepared for climate change. Not one single country.
UK ‘strikingly unprepared’ for anything – there fixed it.
Don’t worry, the upper class have been hoarding so much wealth it’s only a matter of time till it starts trickling down, THEN we can solve this mess. /s
Is that a surprise? The government and civil service spent an enormous amount of time and resources over the last 7 years (and counting, because it’s nowhere near over yet) on Brexit while every other issue was sidelined.
And all that so that we can be poorer. Genius!
proposing a waste of money when compared to other problems we face. I don’t think some massive spending on heat-proofing houses is necessary, I’d wait and see if last years hot weather was a one-off for one thing, it could well be 20 years before it even gets that hot again, and we are still here with our non-heat proofed houses.
A better way of avoiding 3000 early deaths would be through trying to improve eating habits, reducing alcohol and tobacco.
That’s how we prepare for **every** crisis.
1. The government are warned.
2. They give money away to their friends and family.
3. The crisis appears and kicks our arses.
4. Government – “Really this is all down to the previous Labour government. Or immigrants / the unemployed / whoever will rile up the public”
Uh, yeah, half the country shuts down when it snows or if it rains too much and that’s just our normal climate.
Add it to the once_in_a_lifetime crises over there, would you?
*Guestures at pile of flaming crises in corner*
Yet another example of vital work that has fallen by the wayside because our jackass government have spent a decade pissing about with Brexit. It’s also the reason we were so ill-prepared for the pandemic they were warned to expect, AND warned that they were unprepared for years earlier. The tories and Brexit have absolutely shafted our country, and it will take many decades to recover, if we ever do – it’s concievable that we slide so far down the leaderboard of influential countries that we’ll never climb back up to where we were, because we no longer have the resources or assets we once had. Particularly since they sold off so many of our assets to private companies overseas, eg our rail system through which our extortionate fares now subsidises cheap travel in Germany and Holland. Brexit is the biggest act of national self-sabotage in living memory. And we’re now facing a climate crisis we’ve known is coming for 40 years, completely unprepared. Well done lads.
Why is our contry so paralysed. The only thing we’ve managed to do in recent years is bexit and that was clearly so stupid. Why anyone votes for Tory I’ll never understand… not that the alternative is good but it’s not nearly as awful.
Snow has been forecast for winter , O my god we are all going to die .
There isn’t a single country on the planet that is genuinely prepared for climate change:
* Rising sea levels
* Loss of huge amounts of fresh water sources and in turn – water used to cool nuclear power plants,
* Unpredictable weather like droughts, exceptionally cold winters, exceptionally hot summers affecting crop yields
* Mass migration from inhospitable climates where we can no longer grow crops or sustain millions of people in cities that turn into frying pans during summer
The scale of the consequences at this point are too big to be prepared.
I’m sure the people whining about climate protestors might think differently if they were alive to see the massive lack of drinking water across europe, and the mass climate migration with billions of people moving from soon to be inhospitable climates.
And yet the Government want to open new coal mines.
The current UK government cant even handle the issues that the country currently faces.
Given how we react to any weather that isn’t mild this comes as no surprise
Make sure you don’t own a home in a floodplain. Or sell up ASAP.
I see the language has changed from “climate emergency” to “climate crisis” now. Wonder what it will be next year, “climate obliteration”??? Step by step…..
So if this country is fucked because of climate change, how are we going to cope with the increased deluge of people claiming asylum here due to climate change in their countries as well?
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Considering how unprepared we were for covid this isn’t that surprising is it
I feel like we could apply this sentence to many crises.
The housing crisis
Cost of living crisis
Nhs staffing crisis
If its not been labelled as one yet let’s chuck energy and water crisis in there too.
Or we could just drop the end of the sentence and go with ” UK strikingly unprepared” as its pretty accurate.
Honestly very thankful that we haven’t had Germany-style lethal mudslides yet. I looked briefly last year and according to some statistician’s blog which I can’t find now the UK’s hillsides are roughly as denuded of shrubs and trees as theirs.
The issue is short-term sightedness on all aspects.
If it doesn’t bring in money and the low low cost of fuck all investment no one wants to see it.
It’s a train of thought and approach to dealing with things I fucking despise in people.
We’re not even prepared for next week, what hope so we have of preparing for a climate crisis?
What an earth is that stock image? Looks like those houses have been in a fire. Atleast show the classic cooling towers with harmless water vapour pouring out.
Anyway. How exactly does one prepare???
I dont know how it is in other countries but I live in Spain now and you can see the preparations. Green shady spaces being created, pedestrianising whole streets and cycle paths being built.
This is really the bare minimum that should be done but when I visit the UK its like Ive stepped back to the 90’s. They’ve done nothing. Its a crime.
What on earth is this nonsense: we’ve transferred massive amounts of wealth to the rich and they’re better prepared to fuck off somewhere else than ever.
Well, we struggle when we get a little bit of snow on the roads.
Climate crisis will be the latest buzzwords politicians will use to fleece money from us. Standing by for more pointless charges that make zero difference to the climate.
Properly preparing would involve taking the problem seriously. People might start asking why private jets are still legal while we spend billions in public money to protect ourselves from their consequences.
The plan is to do nothing, and then panic and blame everyone else who came before.
Also, if the UK public are suffering enough, they will be easier to convince to hate outsiders. You’re not going to get consent to genocide the global south unless you convince people it’s a necessity. Once people are struggling enough, they’ll support militarised lethal borders and learn to ignore the corpses.
So, according to many models, a good proportion of the South coast is meant to be under water by 2035. That’s only just shy of a decade away.
Yet, despite this, houses right on the coast are still exchanging hands for millions, and there is no sign that the apparent impending doom has had any impact on prices – quite the opposite, actually.
So, either the climate models are junk, and everyone knows they are junk. Or there is a collective delusion taking place.
I really don’t know…
Strangely, the one area the UK is probably getting quite prepared is dealing with the hordes of displaced people that will inevitably want to try and make their way to less impacted places like the UK. I suspect the government’s current approach to asylum policy will look almost utopian compared with what will come in the next few decades – I’m thinking Elysium levels of enforcement.
This isn’t likely to improve either until we get out of the mindset that a bit more renewable energy, small nuclear reactors and heatpumps are what we need. Reducing dependence on fossil fuels should be secondary to the kind of infrastructure that will actually save lives. Wind turbines don’t water crops.
Actually, the UK warming up sounds like something that everyone would support.
The UK isn’t even prepared for an inch of snow… come on!
Maybe it’s time we tackled the actual problem.
Millionaires and billionaires will be the death of millions, the last 30 years has seen them destroy the living standards of almost everyone else.
In the next few decades they will literally be the death of us.
https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/03/22/millionaires-will-burn-through-two-thirds-of-the-worlds-carbon-budget-by-2050-scientists-w#:~:text=Millionaires%20emit%20significantly%20more%20carbon,of%20our%20remaining%20climate%20budget.
“Millionaires will burn through two-thirds of the world’s carbon budget by 2050, scientists warn”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666791622000252
Millionaire spending incompatible with 1.5 °C ambitions
present a model that extrapolates observed growth in millionaire numbers (1990–2020) and associated changes in emissions to 2050. Our findings suggest that the share of US$2020-millionaires in the world population will grow from 0.7% today to 3.3% in 2050, and cause accumulated emissions of 286 Gt CO2. This is equivalent to 72% of the remaining carbon budget, and significantly reduces the chance of stabilizing climate change at 1.5 °C. Continued growth in emissions at the top makes a low-carbon transition less likely, as the acceleration of energy consumption by the wealthiest is likely beyond the system’s capacity to decarbonize. To this end, we question whether policy designs such as progressive taxes targeting the high emitters will be sufficient.
https://phys.org/news/2023-01-strong-political-action-millionaires-enormous.amp
millionaires will, within just a few decades, be responsible for almost three quarters of carbon dioxide emissions
one percent of the world’s total population is responsible for roughly half of all emissions from commercial air travel, the majority of which is associated with premium class air travel for affluent, frequent flyers
https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/billionaire-emits-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-average-person
A billionaire emits a million times more greenhouse gases than the average person
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/04/carbon-footprint-gap-between-rich-poor-expanding-study
In 2010, the most affluent 10% of households emitted 34% of global CO2, while the 50% of the global population in lower income brackets accounted for just 15%. By 2015, the richest 10% were responsible for 49% of emissions against 7% produced by the poorest half of the world’s population.
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/09/1135446721/billionaires-carbon-dioxide-emissions
Some of the world’s richest billionaires each emit about 3 million metric tons of carbon dioxide on average per year, more than 1 million times the amount emitted by 90% of people, according to a new study.
The sample consisted of 125 billionaire with investments in 183 corporations, and who have a combined corporate equity value of $2.4 trillion. About 50 to 70% of their emissions stem from their investments.
Collectively, their annual carbon dioxide emissions total about 393 million metric tons, which is about the same annual carbon footprint of France with its population of 67 million people
We know what the problem is and where it is. When will we actually address that problem?
We can literally name those at fault their numbers are so small on a global level.
Throw in the largest corporate polluters and we can identify and solve 90%+ of the problem
Hi, it’s me your local collapsarian.
This is entirely predictable because the system is designed to ignore anything that might threaten the system, even if that very thing will collapse the system.
My parents said they were looking to buy a house on Romney Marsh 18 months ago and the only thing that has stopped them so far is the interest rates going up. They are true blue Tories and boomers and can see no further than the nose on their face. They are not alone.
By the time they were my age they had lived through one recession, I have already lived through 5 not counting the last 13 years of Tory austerity. They can see no alternative to the status quo even as it destroys the world around them, and they are not alone. They believe that everything they have isn’t due to being born at just the right time but instead is entirely down to them being smarter than everyone else, and the Tories encourage them to believe that. Thus being smarter and believing in the status quo means they must be both right and virtuous in their righteousness, and climate change can only be a conspiracy to take their money and give it to stupider people.
The people who can force change won’t and the people who want change can’t. We’ve already moved from preventing climate change to mitigating it’s “worst” outcomes, and just when did that happen by the way? Still nothing is done, and nothing will be done because the people who could do something don’t want to and they are allowed to do this by people like my parents and by the time they can no longer influence events we will have moved from mitigating it’s worst effects to we can’t do anything now.
The UK has a climate crisis every time a leaf falls on the train tracks. We are strikingly unprepared for everything.
Like every other country on planet Earth then. Nobody is prepared for climate change. Not one single country.
UK ‘strikingly unprepared’ for anything – there fixed it.
Don’t worry, the upper class have been hoarding so much wealth it’s only a matter of time till it starts trickling down, THEN we can solve this mess. /s
Is that a surprise? The government and civil service spent an enormous amount of time and resources over the last 7 years (and counting, because it’s nowhere near over yet) on Brexit while every other issue was sidelined.
And all that so that we can be poorer. Genius!
proposing a waste of money when compared to other problems we face. I don’t think some massive spending on heat-proofing houses is necessary, I’d wait and see if last years hot weather was a one-off for one thing, it could well be 20 years before it even gets that hot again, and we are still here with our non-heat proofed houses.
A better way of avoiding 3000 early deaths would be through trying to improve eating habits, reducing alcohol and tobacco.
That’s how we prepare for **every** crisis.
1. The government are warned.
2. They give money away to their friends and family.
3. The crisis appears and kicks our arses.
4. Government – “Really this is all down to the previous Labour government. Or immigrants / the unemployed / whoever will rile up the public”
Uh, yeah, half the country shuts down when it snows or if it rains too much and that’s just our normal climate.
Add it to the once_in_a_lifetime crises over there, would you?
*Guestures at pile of flaming crises in corner*
Yet another example of vital work that has fallen by the wayside because our jackass government have spent a decade pissing about with Brexit. It’s also the reason we were so ill-prepared for the pandemic they were warned to expect, AND warned that they were unprepared for years earlier. The tories and Brexit have absolutely shafted our country, and it will take many decades to recover, if we ever do – it’s concievable that we slide so far down the leaderboard of influential countries that we’ll never climb back up to where we were, because we no longer have the resources or assets we once had. Particularly since they sold off so many of our assets to private companies overseas, eg our rail system through which our extortionate fares now subsidises cheap travel in Germany and Holland. Brexit is the biggest act of national self-sabotage in living memory. And we’re now facing a climate crisis we’ve known is coming for 40 years, completely unprepared. Well done lads.
Why is our contry so paralysed. The only thing we’ve managed to do in recent years is bexit and that was clearly so stupid. Why anyone votes for Tory I’ll never understand… not that the alternative is good but it’s not nearly as awful.
Snow has been forecast for winter , O my god we are all going to die .
There isn’t a single country on the planet that is genuinely prepared for climate change:
* Rising sea levels
* Loss of huge amounts of fresh water sources and in turn – water used to cool nuclear power plants,
* Unpredictable weather like droughts, exceptionally cold winters, exceptionally hot summers affecting crop yields
* Mass migration from inhospitable climates where we can no longer grow crops or sustain millions of people in cities that turn into frying pans during summer
The scale of the consequences at this point are too big to be prepared.
I’m sure the people whining about climate protestors might think differently if they were alive to see the massive lack of drinking water across europe, and the mass climate migration with billions of people moving from soon to be inhospitable climates.
And yet the Government want to open new coal mines.
The current UK government cant even handle the issues that the country currently faces.
Given how we react to any weather that isn’t mild this comes as no surprise
Make sure you don’t own a home in a floodplain. Or sell up ASAP.
I see the language has changed from “climate emergency” to “climate crisis” now. Wonder what it will be next year, “climate obliteration”??? Step by step…..
So if this country is fucked because of climate change, how are we going to cope with the increased deluge of people claiming asylum here due to climate change in their countries as well?