But won’t apologize for transphobia that’s led many writers to quit. For instance the Observer’s lead writer Sonia Sodha (also writes for the Guardian quite regularly) quite often writes anti-trans articles and tweets (including when wild associations like the repeal of Roe vs Wade, and others in support of the LGB Alliance, also calls trans women males/he) and has retweeted the likes of JK Rowling, Rosie Duffield and other groups quite often, and yet has had no reprimands or anything. For a paper that proclaims to be progressive and against hate speech and tries to target those [progressives](https://amp.theguardian.com/advertising/progressives), it sure is regressive in this regard.
White guilt at the highest levels would explain alot
Must be pretty hard these days to find anyone that hasn’t benefitted from the slave trade somewhere in their history
I doubt anyone except for the self-flagellating upper management at the Guardian care about this.
Can we get an apology for all the international structured tax avoidance it’s engaged in, and maybe get our taxes paid now?
What? Some person, or people, a couple of hundred years ago did something which we now denounce as awful behaviour and that means that a company that now owns the newspaper and has no actual connection to the original founder (who was a cotton merchant I note and therefore benefitted from the atlantic slave trade) feels it has to apologise for behaviour they have absolutely no control over. I don’t get it.
Reckon it’s about time the Roman’s apologized for invading Britain.. and the Norman’s.. Saxons.. pretty sure the whole lot were invoked w slaves
Lots of people in this thread don’t understand the difference between something being your fault, and something being your responsibility.
If someone drops a baby on your doorstep, that’s not your fault but you can’t just leave it there. You have to take it and look after it until you can get it to the right people. Sometimes its your responsibility to deal with the situation that someone else created, whether you want to or not.
The transatlantic slave trade is not the fault of anyone alive today nor could it be. But we are all responsible for cleaning up the messes that were made of the world by our ancestors. You don’t have to go around self-flagellating and apologising to every black person you meet and no black person wants you to do that. That’s a straw-man conjured up by people who either benefit from looking away or who are too soft to actually look at history with clear eyes. “I don’t want to know about the enslaved people who worked in this manor house! I want to feel good and happy about the rich people who owned them and not ever confront the reality of history.”
We’re responsible for cleaning up after our ancestors. You just have to have the courage to drop your ego’s defences and say “yeah, that was really fucked up. Lets see how that still effects us now, and try to rectify it.”
When will they apologise for their support of current day apartheid?
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But won’t apologize for transphobia that’s led many writers to quit. For instance the Observer’s lead writer Sonia Sodha (also writes for the Guardian quite regularly) quite often writes anti-trans articles and tweets (including when wild associations like the repeal of Roe vs Wade, and others in support of the LGB Alliance, also calls trans women males/he) and has retweeted the likes of JK Rowling, Rosie Duffield and other groups quite often, and yet has had no reprimands or anything. For a paper that proclaims to be progressive and against hate speech and tries to target those [progressives](https://amp.theguardian.com/advertising/progressives), it sure is regressive in this regard.
White guilt at the highest levels would explain alot
Must be pretty hard these days to find anyone that hasn’t benefitted from the slave trade somewhere in their history
I doubt anyone except for the self-flagellating upper management at the Guardian care about this.
Can we get an apology for all the international structured tax avoidance it’s engaged in, and maybe get our taxes paid now?
What? Some person, or people, a couple of hundred years ago did something which we now denounce as awful behaviour and that means that a company that now owns the newspaper and has no actual connection to the original founder (who was a cotton merchant I note and therefore benefitted from the atlantic slave trade) feels it has to apologise for behaviour they have absolutely no control over. I don’t get it.
Reckon it’s about time the Roman’s apologized for invading Britain.. and the Norman’s.. Saxons.. pretty sure the whole lot were invoked w slaves
Lots of people in this thread don’t understand the difference between something being your fault, and something being your responsibility.
If someone drops a baby on your doorstep, that’s not your fault but you can’t just leave it there. You have to take it and look after it until you can get it to the right people. Sometimes its your responsibility to deal with the situation that someone else created, whether you want to or not.
The transatlantic slave trade is not the fault of anyone alive today nor could it be. But we are all responsible for cleaning up the messes that were made of the world by our ancestors. You don’t have to go around self-flagellating and apologising to every black person you meet and no black person wants you to do that. That’s a straw-man conjured up by people who either benefit from looking away or who are too soft to actually look at history with clear eyes. “I don’t want to know about the enslaved people who worked in this manor house! I want to feel good and happy about the rich people who owned them and not ever confront the reality of history.”
We’re responsible for cleaning up after our ancestors. You just have to have the courage to drop your ego’s defences and say “yeah, that was really fucked up. Lets see how that still effects us now, and try to rectify it.”
When will they apologise for their support of current day apartheid?